Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
173. Not "pesticides" - Imidocloprid, an insecticide. Need to be more specific.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:58 AM
Jan 2013

Roundup, a Monsanto product, is a herbicide.

Kicked and recommended! Cooley Hurd Jan 2013 #1
hey, thanks! if you have a garden, check this out, too... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #2
OMG - I did not even think about that!! Here I am going out of my way not to buy GMOs in the store jillan Jan 2013 #4
some pointers to seed companies here - both Monsanto and not-Monsanto Agony Jan 2013 #7
I'm glad to see Ed Hume is not Monsanto. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #100
That is a great list. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #167
Here is where I get all my seeds. JEB Jan 2013 #10
I have ordered from Seeds of Change in the past (phew, they are safe) but jillan Jan 2013 #21
Check this out DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #49
I have too. I like that company. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #168
Nichols is my fave, I do get a few from Territorial too. nt Viva_La_Revolution Jan 2013 #114
check out Seed Savers Exchange, everybody! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #66
no seed company is 'safe,' as where companies like monsanto don't own the seeds, they may HiPointDem Jan 2013 #96
hey, check out #66 and #292 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #294
here's a good seed company... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #292
No argument here. LWolf Jan 2013 #3
no bees - no food bluemarkers Jan 2013 #5
So .... how is Monsanto killing bees? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #15
There is the possibility that pesticides are a contributing factor to CCD RomneyLies Jan 2013 #80
+1. And, ... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #83
A corn based diet bluemarkers Jan 2013 #131
Nobody is a "Monsanto cheerleader troll" here. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #133
yes I know. bluemarkers Jan 2013 #152
I have lots of bees in California. I let the wood sorrel grow. The tiny yellow JDPriestly Jan 2013 #169
Commercial Bee Keepers DO feed their Bees Corn Syrup. bvar22 Jan 2013 #190
That's why I'll only buy honey from local beekeepers I know RomneyLies Jan 2013 #198
Not "pesticides" - Imidocloprid, an insecticide. Need to be more specific. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #173
two thirds of food crops and ALL staple grains are wind pollinated.... mike_c Jan 2013 #72
and, hive-dwelling bees are not the only pollinators. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #84
yeah, but they're the most important ones by far, which you can learn in 60 seconds try google farminator3000 Jan 2013 #282
Too late, Bubba. I busted you in a flat lie. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #284
you actually posted some plagiarism, from a guy called UncleAdolf, so i'm glad to see you go farminator3000 Jan 2013 #286
just grains, which corn is, you don't know what you're saying. 2/3 of food crops=totally false farminator3000 Jan 2013 #285
I'm an insect ecologist by profession-- I know quite well what I'm talking about.... mike_c Jan 2013 #288
then why aren't you talking about genetic diversity or all of the OTHER pollinators also dying? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #289
because that's another conversation.... mike_c Jan 2013 #290
not really. if you have a PhD, you should know that entire ecosystems are much more than data, and farminator3000 Jan 2013 #291
What do you farm? superpatriotman Jan 2013 #6
All sorts of things! Marrah_G Jan 2013 #23
fruits and vegetables farminator3000 Jan 2013 #67
Yeah, thanks superpatriotman Jan 2013 #74
sorry, didn't mean to sound snarky! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #179
GMO Trilogy - Unnatural Selection Go Vols Jan 2013 #8
Great rant, but... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #9
The corporate model that is being imposed on farms is what's killing bees. Monsato is the architect KittyWampus Jan 2013 #14
Ok... I guess. What does that mean? (At least you are not defending "GMOs kill bees") Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #17
Industrial scale bee-keeping & use of pesticides & mono-cropping all combine KittyWampus Jan 2013 #25
True, mostly. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #34
"GMOs do not provide any further motivation for monocropping than the original native seeds. " Agony Jan 2013 #47
Your post makes no sense. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #54
Corn is wind pollinated. "Self pollinated" means a plant pollinates itself. Corn doesn't. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #126
You are, of course, correct. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #129
I just want to know where... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #162
Being called a shill is a rite of passage. Sorry. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #170
Nice to see... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #272
Genetically Mutant corporate crap sure as HELL ain't doing bees any good either Berlum Jan 2013 #40
Well, that was baseless. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #55
It's a fact, Jack Berlum Jan 2013 #86
Opinion, Jimson! Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #92
Herbicides have no effect whatsoever on bees. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #119
and i'm done. synergy. horizontal gene transfer. untested chemicals. surfactants. sad story, really. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #249
Roundup is killing bees? Got a link for that? yellowcanine Jan 2013 #172
here ya go! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #180
That says nothing about RoundUp killing the bees. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #183
i've actually seen a PET killed by round up, please don't remind me of it farminator3000 Jan 2013 #185
That claim is bullshit. His bees were seized due to American Foul Brood RomneyLies Jan 2013 #187
just like he did about the bald eagle, sure. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #192
That has nothing to do with the bee bullshit RomneyLies Jan 2013 #196
those aren't facts, those are one persons "story" farminator3000 Jan 2013 #200
And now you pull out mercola woo woo bullshit RomneyLies Jan 2013 #201
read the real story, maybe, and a link, maybe? not some prepared email? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #204
They were abating the nuisance RomneyLies Jan 2013 #211
number 1, for instance... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #202
Ingram lied. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #203
prove it. link? story? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #205
Claims must be supported by actual research, not appeals to reputation (authority). What actual yellowcanine Jan 2013 #209
i'm sure he has more 'research' to back him up than monsanto farminator3000 Jan 2013 #210
There you go again. Your link has nothing to do with Roundup and bees or Ingram. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #250
Terry Ingram is a nutjob RomneyLies Jan 2013 #213
you haven't posted a damn thing farminator3000 Jan 2013 #215
Fine RomneyLies Jan 2013 #216
you seem to be the only one disagreeing with me here farminator3000 Jan 2013 #218
Because it is late night on a Sunday RomneyLies Jan 2013 #219
BTW, peer reviewed articles about neonicotinoids and the correlation to CCD RomneyLies Jan 2013 #220
bayer is just a foreign company that monsanto sells its crap to so it won't get an anti-trust suit farminator3000 Jan 2013 #221
Monsamto manufactures no neonicotinoids. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #225
MONSANTO and BAYER are PARTNERS in BUSINESS. get it? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #228
THEY PARTNERED IN TRANSGENIC ORGANISMS, NOT NEONICOTINOIDS. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #234
do you have glasses, also? you seem to be missing some key points, here farminator3000 Jan 2013 #238
You put words into my mouth constantly RomneyLies Jan 2013 #239
you put words on the internet constantly. if roundup isn't PART of the cause, where's a link?? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #242
And the end game of woo comes in, demand proof of a negative. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #243
yes, providing a link that isn't PAID FOR by monsanto saying their crap is safe is just a crazy idea farminator3000 Jan 2013 #245
Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #297
Make that at least one more person because I disagree with you. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #252
well, you're wrong, too, then farminator3000 Jan 2013 #255
And the relevance to Roundup and bees is........???? yellowcanine Jan 2013 #258
the relevance of you saying 'that's not true' is...? and the other hundreds of things besides bees? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #262
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2023 #298
Antifreeze kills cats and dogs. And bees, too? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #189
post a fact instead of just nothing please farminator3000 Jan 2013 #191
You brought me to this subthread because I said Roundup was safe for humans to use if used properly. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #193
you started with 'gmo crops are not killing bees' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #208
Monsanto isn't klling bees. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #212
they are killing pretty much everything. with a BRAND NEW PATHOGEN!! how can you know what it does? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #222
Provide the peer reviewed studies. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #226
email the guy if you want to argue with him same scientist from Purdue farminator3000 Jan 2013 #230
The crackpot hasn't published anything RomneyLies Jan 2013 #233
well, you've posted, in total, 1 questionable email, which is much easier than publuishing a study.. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #235
More irrelevent BS RomneyLies Jan 2013 #237
if i emailed them, i'd ask how much they got paid by M to harass the poor guy farminator3000 Jan 2013 #240
Okay, I'm done talking to you RomneyLies Jan 2013 #241
you mean typing AT me farminator3000 Jan 2013 #244
Link is about a protest by Polish beekeepers, not about Roundup killing bees. Do you have an yellowcanine Jan 2013 #207
can you not read bold type? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #214
Yes - the bold type was about the protest - not a link to research. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #253
here- knock yourself out- they banned it in poland so, i guess they were right. not hard to find... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #256
This message was self-deleted by its author yellowcanine Jan 2013 #259
Roundup/bees???????????? yellowcanine Jan 2013 #260
will you pay attention please? big M just bought the only people doing research into the farminator3000 Jan 2013 #267
"big M just bought the only people doing reasearch into the cause of bee death." yellowcanine Jan 2013 #270
did you even read the article about it? because your "quote" is from beelogics website farminator3000 Jan 2013 #273
Have you seen this? PETRUS Jan 2013 #31
Sure. This is a well-known effect of monocropping. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #59
Who says it did? I was replying to $14, which was making a different point. PETRUS Jan 2013 #115
It may have been your intent to reply to #14, but in was posted in response to me. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #135
If you say so... PETRUS Jan 2013 #136
I found your post as a response on the "My Posts" tab at the top of the screen. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #140
Must be a glitch Cal Carpenter Jan 2013 #160
Definitely a glitch RomneyLies Jan 2013 #166
thanks! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #68
We live in the middle of farms (lots of corn) and we have very few insects. Frogs all die also. glinda Jan 2013 #103
frogs are dying everywhere, like canaries in the coal mine... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #247
You are a scientist, or bee-keeper, or both? Isn't it odd how Monsanto killed a test hive and bought Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #16
There is some logic in there somewhere, but no science. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #18
No, but the pesticides required to grow them might be. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #26
And these pesticides do not differ from the pesticides used on non-GMO crops. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #30
GMO crops may be increasing pesticide use - not decreasing like was sposed to happen according to Agony Jan 2013 #46
No argument here. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #51
Chemtrails might be killing the bees also Major Nikon Jan 2013 #43
Show your proof of what is killing the bees. rainin Jan 2013 #32
Sure. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #42
I hate to be rude, rainin Jan 2013 #48
How ignorant. (Any, despite your hate for it, you were rude) Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #53
Not ignorant. rainin Jan 2013 #56
You invoked Watt while being nasty and rude. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #62
look at post#180 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #181
I'm not sure the question is so conclusively answered. frustrated_lefty Jan 2013 #39
No. Not Bt corn. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #44
And frustrated_lefty Jan 2013 #65
perhaps bees are allergic to corn pollen, which is blown hundreds to thousands of yards by the wind farminator3000 Jan 2013 #99
One small note, bees still collect corn pollen. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #130
WHY there is "no science" on the effects of long term use og the toxins and GMOs: bvar22 Jan 2013 #69
I suppose there is some science in your post. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #77
"innuendo"? hopemountain Jan 2013 #227
see post #60 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #70
Not science, yet. Crime? Yes. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #109
....but nuthin'. the bummer is monsanto is a greedy scumbag! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #60
You threw a big enough net that you actually caught the real culprit. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #64
are you an expert on what they own? they have some sketchy friends... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #79
Who owns what pesticides is a matter of public record. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #81
i didn't just fall off the turnip truck. obviously bayer and mon-ster-santo are in cahoots! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #95
Nevermind. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #97
Is Monsanto your employer, or your roody Jan 2013 #121
Neither. Are you paid to ask these questions? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #132
My only income comes from teaching public roody Jan 2013 #138
Still trolling. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #139
Always trolling the GMO threads, roody Jan 2013 #158
You have an opportunity to discuss the science Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #159
discuss this farminator3000 Jan 2013 #223
... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #232
weak. you seem to be missing the part about how monsanto THREATENS AND OWNS SCIENTISTS farminator3000 Jan 2013 #236
Weak? I gave you a link that DESTROYED your "research". Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #277
that's actually laughable what you did there. thanks for reminding me to dissect your tranparency farminator3000 Jan 2013 #279
Unreal. You did not even read it. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #280
i did read it that's the problem. the link you posted was totally bogus. you are the hysterical one farminator3000 Jan 2013 #281
Thank you for demonstrating that your blatant lies are fully intentional. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #283
say hi to UncleAdolf and his wonderful site farminator3000 Jan 2013 #287
That is open to debate. arikara Jan 2013 #112
I wouldn't be surprised, either, but it is not the case. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #122
since Monsanto now owns the organization handmade34 Jan 2013 #150
K&R Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #11
K & R ...the corporate war on farmers! L0oniX Jan 2013 #12
Life on earth depends on diversity. GMO's are, by definition, exact replicants = no diversity. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #13
???? How do GMOs differ from standard hybrids (used for a century)? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #20
Standard hybrids have SOME diversity within their DNA. They are not all exact replicants. KittyWampus Jan 2013 #28
GMO organisms are not exact replicants, either. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #137
Standard Hybrids, produced by cross pollination, are limited by nature... bvar22 Jan 2013 #33
i'm just going to POST THIS AS LOUD AS I CAN and crush all arguments-MONSANTO=root of all evil. oldhippydude Jan 2013 #19
Round up is no worse than any other pesticide. It's the over-application that is awful. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #27
...and My Wife & I choose to ban those products from our immediate environment. bvar22 Jan 2013 #36
Good deal! No doubt, we can live better without them. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #45
What do you use for control? DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #63
We use a cultivator, rototiller and pull weeds by hand in the organic veggie gardens. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #91
You are doing the right thing DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #113
There are other Roundup problems as well: Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #147
that sounds like a round up AD...see post #180 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #182
Um ... no. i will defend the product against ignorant claimts. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #184
see #185 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #186
those are only the problems from the monsanto memo farminator3000 Jan 2013 #194
You are so right DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #58
"Used Properly" bvar22 Jan 2013 #75
That's a bit strong. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #148
OK Lets take a "Real World" look at your rebuttal. bvar22 Jan 2013 #175
In many ways you are right, but you are wrong in all important ways. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #177
no, he is just right farminator3000 Jan 2013 #197
YOU are only re-inforcing MY argument. bvar22 Jan 2013 #199
Case closed? Roundup is now banned for home use? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #217
+1 n/t handmade34 Jan 2013 #153
Great post. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #78
A bit more on RU DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #142
During the time I studied gardening tama Jan 2013 #71
No argument here. bvar22 Jan 2013 #22
thanks for your help! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #82
You sly little farminator you Fumesucker Jan 2013 #24
Natural News is a Woo-Woo site. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #29
I wish Mike Adams would stick to health issues. rainin Jan 2013 #52
Ahead of his time!!... SidDithers Jan 2013 #85
He's a far right nutter, that no-one on DU should have anything to do with muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #89
sorry about that, i updated the OP farminator3000 Jan 2013 #105
K&R - along with all the politicians in their pockets. forestpath Jan 2013 #35
K&R MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #37
Doesn't the farm bill help Monsanto? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #38
probably! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #165
here in the USA, M just buys its way out of any controversy as with the bee research above lunasun Jan 2013 #41
Naturalnews. And woo week moves into day 2...nt SidDithers Jan 2013 #50
Scientific Materialists with their narrow, idiosyncratic 'beliefs' tend to... Berlum Jan 2013 #87
OK, how about "Natural News is a far right hate site"? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #90
Keep defending woo... SidDithers Jan 2013 #93
On the Woo Woo Choo Choo green for victory Jan 2013 #120
'Root of all evil' is not the way to persuade people. No matter how LOUDLY you scream it. randome Jan 2013 #57
farminator, my father suspected that the death of bees saidsimplesimon Jan 2013 #61
good for you! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #248
your source is utter anti-science crap.... mike_c Jan 2013 #73
written a book, have you? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #106
kick samsingh Jan 2013 #76
Please replace your link to the far right Natural News with a non-obscene one muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #88
sorry! done. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #107
OP, why are you using conspiracy trash sites to make your case and ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #94
there was more than one link i believe farminator3000 Jan 2013 #108
You will get no argument from me. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #98
K&R even though I disagree. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #101
the biggest, oldest root on the tree? here's a video..with Dick! (Cheney, of course) farminator3000 Jan 2013 #157
GMO woo is to the left as climate change denial woo is to the right. FarCenter Jan 2013 #102
so was Silent Spring when it came out...maybe 'right' is 'wrong' on occaision? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #116
There's a kernel of truth in both sides. But Monsanto & GMO needs to be put on a leash. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #127
The main backlash against Monsanto is due to patents and to European farmers and the subsidy regime FarCenter Jan 2013 #144
You had me... until you posted the woo site. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #104
try this guy- it was a caffiene-induced oversight... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #111
Thank you! backscatter712 Jan 2013 #125
ALRIGHT ALREADY!!! natural news is a cuckoo site, i xxxx'd it! back on topic, please! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #110
Link talks about Obama's admin bad moves also = you may have to remove this link too yaknow!!! lunasun Jan 2013 #141
i opened a can of worms there, whoops! not his fault the FDA is such a mess! he's trying! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #149
Oh I saw nothing wrong with any of your posts .... lunasun Jan 2013 #156
Obama has EARNED a dissing for his aid to Monsanto. bvar22 Jan 2013 #261
Oh I know Monsanto /Vilsack around see my post #41 lunasun Jan 2013 #275
How can president Obama have put THAT "Man from Monsanto"... bvar22 Jan 2013 #278
Sign a petition to the White House randr Jan 2013 #117
That's why I call it MonSATAN LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #118
Bookmarked this to get it kicked from time to time. OldEurope Jan 2013 #123
Baker Creek recc ColumbusLib Jan 2013 #124
Root of ALL evil? NoPasaran Jan 2013 #128
i tried! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #151
Monsanto wants to help the bees... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #134
+ Sancho Jan 2013 #143
Destroying Kauai KauaiK Jan 2013 #145
have you seen millions against monsanto hawaii on FB? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #164
thank you niyad Jan 2013 #146
even India is smart enough handmade34 Jan 2013 #154
"occupy monsanto" list of seeds/plants and snoop alert - site seems to be sane farminator3000 Jan 2013 #155
Corrupt elections lead to corrupt government that fails to regulate/prosecute corrupt businesses Cliff Arnebeck Jan 2013 #161
yessir! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #163
Monsanto worships Money Larrymoe Curlyshemp Jan 2013 #171
monster-santo is also trying to mess with OUR SACRED HERB! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #174
Our Honey Bees, Free Range Chickens, bvar22 Jan 2013 #176
that's some SWEET lookin' honey (no pun...) farminator3000 Jan 2013 #178
The first "honey robbing" was in May, bvar22 Jan 2013 #188
No arguments here! Initech Jan 2013 #195
it is evil samsingh Jan 2013 #206
kick Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #224
yes! monsanto is evil hopemountain Jan 2013 #229
Yep. southerncrone Jan 2013 #231
i think i deserve a shout out for not getting booted from my own thread for an insult... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #246
Lot of heat for a little light. CropGun Jan 2013 #251
thank you for your paid spokesman nonsense. you are a perfect example of the problem. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #254
Heh CropGun Jan 2013 #263
if that's the best you've got, just give up now farminator3000 Jan 2013 #265
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #268
"Bt and all the other crap are ruining people lives! giving people cancer..." Link? yellowcanine Jan 2013 #264
like i just told your buddy...also, i know what bt is, thanks for that anyway farminator3000 Jan 2013 #266
Well it is not my fault you are so careless in your language. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #269
Bt means Bt and spraying the bacteria in its natural state is WAY different than genetic splicing farminator3000 Jan 2013 #271
The way to "crush arguments" isn't to be AS LOUD AS YOU CAN BE and throw out yellowcanine Jan 2013 #257
you have only linked to yourself as a credible source, so there's that farminator3000 Jan 2013 #274
"ORDER 81: Re-engineering Iraqi agriculture The ultimate war crime: breaking the agricultural cycle" farminator3000 Jan 2013 #276
i found another good seed compnay- from oregon farminator3000 Jan 2013 #293
here's the best list of seeds/plants to avoid this planting season, and lots of other stuff farminator3000 Jan 2013 #295
more stuff about which seeds/plants to avoid. it is confusing farminator3000 Jan 2013 #296
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»i'm just going to POST TH...»Reply #173