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seabeyond

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41. i do not see this as being mere animal. he was talking evolutionary behavioral psychology which i
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jan 2013

suspected. this is being human. and the id, i get. and the id is not all that we are.

K&R trumad Jan 2013 #1
K&R forestpath Jan 2013 #2
Beauty and the Beast? Shivering Jemmy Jan 2013 #3
Yes, but there is also another side to that meta-narrative. Bonobo Jan 2013 #4
the bad boy thing is still strong these days- with Twilight and the Shades of Grey series bettyellen Jan 2013 #14
Yeah, marions ghost Jan 2013 #62
I told my coworker that she'd feel differently if she'd ever been stalked. But she's young and bettyellen Jan 2013 #65
Interesting. I have never thought of it that way. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #97
I know that people attack us when we speak out but... LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #5
+1 redqueen Jan 2013 #6
I think primal tales such as Beauty and the Beast have more than one meaning el_bryanto Jan 2013 #7
no. not all of us are complacent and we pay hell for it. rape has become our entertainment. seabeyond Jan 2013 #8
Exactly. redqueen Jan 2013 #9
Like the village in India that wants to prevent tblue37 Jan 2013 #13
Great article - read it all. Locrian Jan 2013 #10
Yep. We're conditioned to see it as 'normal'. redqueen Jan 2013 #11
"The Quiet Man"? daleanime Jan 2013 #30
I was referring to Blade Runner, but there are countless examples. redqueen Jan 2013 #56
Well yeah, but no one likes to admit that.... daleanime Jan 2013 #59
If the messed-upness wasn't manifesting as violence so often redqueen Jan 2013 #60
We do agree, although I kind of come at it from the other side... daleanime Jan 2013 #61
That's a valid point, redqueen Jan 2013 #64
Excellent post, redqueen. tblue37 Jan 2013 #12
True, I remember several 'respected" posters here OPing that rapists were rare sociopaths and "knew" bettyellen Jan 2013 #15
It cuts across all segments of society, rich, poor, geeks, jocks, artists... redqueen Jan 2013 #16
You're right. I was referring to the frats and sports teams only in the context of gang rape..... bettyellen Jan 2013 #20
Wow, I hadn't seen that stat. redqueen Jan 2013 #57
Yep, really is sad to see here on DU. Rex Jan 2013 #17
Once you start to see it, you do realize it's everywhere. MadrasT Jan 2013 #18
K&R. nt DLevine Jan 2013 #19
There's a larger question here really, I think Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #21
ah this is such bullshit and tired of we are animals so that explains it crap. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #22
Note that that wasn't a defence but an observation. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #23
we may be animals and subject to impulses beyond our control el_bryanto Jan 2013 #24
And to some extent aspects of our culture celebrate those impulses. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #26
what is this animal instinct you talk about? rape? or sex? nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #32
or murder or robbery el_bryanto Jan 2013 #36
i do not see this as being mere animal. he was talking evolutionary behavioral psychology which i seabeyond Jan 2013 #41
That's my point and I suspect that's largely his point as well n/t el_bryanto Jan 2013 #44
no. he sent me to a site with evolutionary biology. a cult today that infects our males with right seabeyond Jan 2013 #47
Evolutionary biology is a cult? Are you a creationist? n/t el_bryanto Jan 2013 #49
no. i am talking about the people that take behaviors today and validate them... like rape, seabeyond Jan 2013 #52
Validate them? By saying they have their origin in our animal natures? el_bryanto Jan 2013 #53
I have seen this validation here frequently. It's just a few "uncontrollable sociopaths" and there bettyellen Jan 2013 #63
Evolutionary biology not a validation or an excuse, just a partial explanation joelbny Jan 2013 #69
post 89. scientists reject evo psych. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #90
post 89. scientists reject evo psych. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #91
But we all do know Tsiyu Jan 2013 #25
Except that whole "I can't do that" thing seems to be absent from sociopaths Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #27
So then sociopaths are mutations Tsiyu Jan 2013 #28
You seem to assume that it isn't the other way around Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #31
But then I believe we would be far more violent than we are Tsiyu Jan 2013 #38
Part of the reason for the relative but not absolute lack of violence... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #43
sub-Saharan Africa Tsiyu Jan 2013 #50
and that fits in with some men learning to view women as a different tribe due less respect bettyellen Jan 2013 #72
"We train animals not to steal food or piss on the floor. " OMG, too true..... bettyellen Jan 2013 #67
It seems the rape apologists have a dilemma Tsiyu Jan 2013 #68
who are the rape apologists? joelbny Jan 2013 #70
Seek and ye shall find Tsiyu Jan 2013 #71
yes actually if 1 in 3 women are raped.... joelbny Jan 2013 #75
Uh Oh Tsiyu Jan 2013 #76
about porn joelbny Jan 2013 #78
Sad story Tsiyu Jan 2013 #80
note, i am calling it bullshit, not talking about "defense". i am flat out calling this shit spewed seabeyond Jan 2013 #29
There's a difference between an explanation and an excuse Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #33
i am calling your explanation bullshit. what is this animal instinct you are talking about? seabeyond Jan 2013 #34
I never said anything about "animal instinct" Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #37
this is what i thought you were referring to. evolutionary fuckin' behavioral science that has seabeyond Jan 2013 #40
You didn't actually bother to look at the review did you? Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #45
i have repeatedly presented documentation where the scientific community rejects evolutionary seabeyond Jan 2013 #51
You have? I haven't seen it Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #54
No, it is not natural for men to gang rape women gollygee Jan 2013 #39
+1 Rex Jan 2013 #87
The end of patriarchy ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #48
Oh, it can be changed, and it will be. redqueen Jan 2013 #55
Plus the 'dumb beast' argument doesn't hold water. Rex Jan 2013 #86
That is not really true. Rex Jan 2013 #85
Except that isn't true at all Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #88
Does evolutionary psychology have any problems? seabeyond Jan 2013 #89
Yes but we are talking about normal human beings. Rex Jan 2013 #92
K&R No matter how low a man is, he is still master of his wife. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #35
yes. nt. seabeyond Jan 2013 #42
Thank you! redqueen Jan 2013 #58
You're very welcomed. I just wish there were some way to get more people to see Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #93
I don't know if there's any way to force it. redqueen Jan 2013 #96
Thank you for stating the obvious. It always seems to hide in plain sight. n/t Raksha Jan 2013 #94
k&R ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #46
Some men refuse to see forced sex as rape marions ghost Jan 2013 #66
I love rhe way she summarized that part of the wonderful yes means yes blog... redqueen Jan 2013 #73
The world would be very different if we shunned (& punished) rapists, she concludes: marions ghost Jan 2013 #74
The tie in with domestic violence is another issue. redqueen Jan 2013 #77
Domestic violence seems to be at the heart of the Steubenville, Ohio gang rape. yardwork Jan 2013 #79
Micheal Nodianos the young man in the Ohio State tee shirt in that heinous video, goes to Ohio State riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #83
I hope he ends up scrubbing toilets at a fast food restaurant. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #98
Yup. Just had it happen (again) to me, not an hour ago on another thread riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #81
K&R, Great Thread. smirkymonkey Jan 2013 #82
Weekend kick nt riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #84
K & R Raksha Jan 2013 #95
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