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In reply to the discussion: How to refute the more murders with hammers than rifles fiction that is sweeping right wing websites [View all]ieoeja
(9,748 posts)25. Apparently, they do not need guns to protect themselves from criminals. They need it for arguments.
Some interesting facts in that link. Far and away the most common known cause of homicide is an argument.
You are much more likely to be murdered as the result of an argument, than in the commission of a crime.
I was surprised to see how little gang related killings there are. Everyone is always talking about gang killings, but they don't seem to be one of the larger causes of homicide.
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How to refute the more murders with hammers than rifles fiction that is sweeping right wing websites [View all]
Mortos
Jan 2013
OP
If they think a hammer is so lethal, maybe they should use THAT for protection.
JoePhilly
Jan 2013
#1
I think the 8583 number is homicides...and doesn't include ~17000 gun suicides
HereSince1628
Jan 2013
#2
What does the 'intent' of an object have to do with the uses to which it's put?
X_Digger
Jan 2013
#26
If they are actually shooting their gun at any place other than a range....
Tommy_Carcetti
Jan 2013
#82
Yes, the millions of Olympic sharpshooters that we have in this country.
Tommy_Carcetti
Jan 2013
#88
IPSC (pistol), postage match with a few friends who don't live close anymore..
X_Digger
Jan 2013
#97
So if the purpose of a gun is not to kill, then what is it? I know AR's are really designed for
Erose999
Jan 2013
#63
Its fair to reframe the argument away from the rifles-hammers comparison but its not fiction.
aikoaiko
Jan 2013
#9
By that standard nearly all civilian firearms are variations of military firearms.
aikoaiko
Jan 2013
#90
Since blunt objects are so effective, maybe people should use those for home defense.
JoePhilly
Jan 2013
#15
So your point is that guns provide a more effective weapon when one's goal is to
JoePhilly
Jan 2013
#33
Unless that assult weapon is in your house. Then your risk of death by such a
JoePhilly
Jan 2013
#39
I looked on those websites. None of them sold any product called a Blunt Object.
Tommy_Carcetti
Jan 2013
#105
Technically the 9mm used at Virginia Tech fell within the constrains of the old
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2013
#69
Apparently, they do not need guns to protect themselves from criminals. They need it for arguments.
ieoeja
Jan 2013
#25
If they're going to break down the total murders by guns, into various types, like rifles, then
sinkingfeeling
Jan 2013
#27
Many people can't do any of that, but can use a gun defensively just fine. n/t
PavePusher
Jan 2013
#104
About the same time that the Sandy Hook killings were happening, in China, a deranged
bluestate10
Jan 2013
#55