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35. Thanks Nadin, great post.

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Why I find these hate the troops post pathetic [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 OP

Very well said. Thank you nadin. n/t Still Sensible Jan 2013 #1

You welcome nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #2

I have a family member who enlisted after 9/11 to get out of a pathetic, abusive home. jillan Jan 2013 #3

There is that too nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #4

As a wife of a lifer I thank you. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #79

I can't believe it! zappaman Jan 2013 #5

I'm feeling a bit strange myself pecwae Jan 2013 #38

What I find pathetic about the hate the troops posts is their ignorance of the way... Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #6

Absolutely, and there s hate, real hate nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #8

Hate? I've never said I hated them. white_wolf Jan 2013 #21

Well stated. Ty. gtar100 Jan 2013 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #42

Sorry, your post was in hate for the common grunt nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #50

Really tell me, Nadin how do you know my thoughts and intentions? white_wolf Jan 2013 #111

Based on your posts and your words nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #112

No my words and posts display anger towards the troops. white_wolf Jan 2013 #114

Thanks for the clarification. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #115

You are right about a few things here. white_wolf Jan 2013 #116

What do you do between elections? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #118

I'm active with a few local groups including my local Occupy movement. white_wolf Jan 2013 #120

Veterans for peace would be my recomendation nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #124

There's actually a member of Veterans for Peace in my Occupy movement. white_wolf Jan 2013 #127

That is one problem we have seen with banks nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #128

"But damn it, latte drinking hipsters...who talk a good game" DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #7

Sipping lattes while condemning the evil E-1 privates for the Iraq War. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #9

Looking down on anyone is assuming a superior moral position over others and not egalitarian at all. freshwest Jan 2013 #10

Hence why it is so jarring. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #11

It is like talking with someone who knows the words, but not the feelings. You are spot on, freshwest Jan 2013 #15

I figure many of them are RWNJs who post the crap RomneyLies Jan 2013 #12

Nah, just your standard nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #14

"I walked the halls of academia, but walked the streets as well." zappaman Jan 2013 #69

..and had many shootouts.. pew pew pew... dionysus Jan 2013 #110

. former-republican Jan 2013 #13

I don't hate the troops--I hate the way they are used to promote support for wars Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #16

Then work to change the policies that send those troops to war nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #17

I've always liked the slogan "Support the troops; bring them home" Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #18

And those are the ones I call on nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #48

Such an attitude is repugnant BainsBane Jan 2013 #19

what 'hate the troops' posts? i haven't seen them. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #20

She is probably referring to my post here. white_wolf Jan 2013 #25

It is a direct reply to you thread. Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #26

It may be these words sarisataka Jan 2013 #27

Fair enough, but those words do not equal hate. white_wolf Jan 2013 #34

I understand sarisataka Jan 2013 #49

that's the sum total of the 'hate the troops' posts the OP is talking about? lol. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #31

I'm probably going to get in trouble for this, but if you revere ALL life, but make exceptions for a patrice Jan 2013 #22

Looking over your 4 examples. white_wolf Jan 2013 #24

I don't think most people have parsed it out as far as you have, white_wolf. & I don't personally patrice Jan 2013 #29

The problem is that change nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #57

I'm trying to describe dynamics between factors, so, yes, individuals & cohorts are important patrice Jan 2013 #73

Absolutely. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #78

We are not encouraged to authentically self-identify. There's that old conundrum about how patrice Jan 2013 #107

Which is interesting in itself nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #108

RIGHT on! nadin! ONLY certain kinds of bootstraps are even considered bootstraps & THAT patrice Jan 2013 #109

Why I said some of our hipsters are even more nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #113

Gotta watch out for those hipsters, sometimes, most of all! patrice Jan 2013 #117

I hope these conversations help to get 'em to think. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #119

It also helps that we are right on the economics of "bootstraps" too! Thanks for ALL that patrice Jan 2013 #121

You do as well. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #125

I don't "hate the troops" but meaningless genuflection disgusts me Scootaloo Jan 2013 #28

Part of the problem with the self proclaimed left DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #30

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #82

Why do you assume soldiers have no choice but the rest of us do? redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #32

What double standard? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #44

One of the best posts you have ever made. MicaelS Jan 2013 #33

Thanks Nadin, great post. Scuba Jan 2013 #35

To which I would add that some of the most powerful anti-war statements and coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #36

You have your Russian Revolutions mixed up NoPasaran Jan 2013 #37

Thank you nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #43

I never saw a "hate the troops thread. Bonobo Jan 2013 #39

Yeah, but... 99Forever Jan 2013 #41

The sentiment tied to them is what I stated nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #47

That's something to keep in mind, yes. randome Jan 2013 #40

That is not Nadin's point. Her point is that troops are 99%ers.Filter that through OWS's perspective stevenleser Jan 2013 #45

Well stated. n/t el_bryanto Jan 2013 #46

There is an element on DU that hates anything that doesn't fit within their small, "purity" bluestate10 Jan 2013 #51

Most of the troops are essentially very young adults trying to get by. Jennicut Jan 2013 #52

A fine distinction our hipsters miss nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #54

Seriously, what's with all this "hipster" stuff? zappaman Jan 2013 #71

I don't like war, and I don't like the military Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #53

Soldiers who have never seen combat want the experience nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #55

Wonder how full of praise and excuses you would be Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #56

You are talking of REMF personnel nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #58

Hey if 70% of people believed Iraq was responsible for 9-11 Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #59

Was the military involved in meet the press statements nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #60

Bush received a majority of the military vote in both 2000 and 2004 Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #61

No they did not nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #62

Really? Not according to one simple google search: Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #63

That is why they held the military vote in OH nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #64

I already said I don't hate them as individuals, I hate the organization Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #65

You miss this by a mile nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #66

I've done nothing but engage them for going on ten years now Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #67

Yup, cause we live in a dictatorship nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #68

Oh, it's no tall tale Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #70

Rely on whatever you want nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #72

Well, holy shit, lookee what I found: Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #74

Remain as unconvinced as you want nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #76

No, what we live in is a corporate plutocracy Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #77

Okie dokie nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #80

I never said we couldn't effect change Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #83

So in your world we should dissolve the military? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #85

Shrink it down, Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #87

Well, wonders never cease nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #88

I guess you missed the "active duty" part that was in the article Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #81

Yes, they also had active duty nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #84

Congratulations. You went back some 60 years and were able to find something positive that the Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #86

Katrina nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #89

You think we couldn't come up with a different system of providing relief Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #93

Yup, let's leave it in the hands of the states nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #95

Oh and to address an earlier point you made about Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #90

No, it's not the culture nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #92

Knowing this is common throughout human history is another reason why we should not Downtown Hound Jan 2013 #96

You're right...the "active duty" part was in the article atreides1 Jan 2013 #104

I served so that people could have the right to hate me. Rex Jan 2013 #75

I Joined 4Q2u2 Jan 2013 #91

The cuts have to be to programs the nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #94

The Osprey 4Q2u2 Jan 2013 #97

And the Corp still does not want it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #99

I met an American soldier in a sauna riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #98

That is a too common story nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #100

Thanks Nadin. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #101

Excellent post Zambero Jan 2013 #102

I wish we turned back to Dept of War nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #103

Perfectly said, nadinbrzezinski! (Although predictably the bullshit has already started upthread.) 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #105

And will continue to cling to it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #106

At least I have enough respect for the working class soldier Vattel Jan 2013 #122

the most ironic thing about anti military posts on DU WooWooWoo Jan 2013 #123

Yup...ain't that the truth nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #126