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interesting times Cheronin Jan 2013 #1
Interesting post indeed. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #24
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress. nt lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #209
Yes it is, elleng Jan 2013 #2
I hope it continues... xoom Jan 2013 #3
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #105
Confused independent2013 Jan 2013 #4
The OP didn't mention Republicans Fumesucker Jan 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author JaneyVee Jan 2013 #83
Say goodbye--that troll has gotten the boot! nt MADem Jan 2013 #152
Bwahahahahahaha! Buh-bye! n/t cynatnite Jan 2013 #12
Was here less than twenty minutes ... LMAO lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #23
So, are you saving your tin foil for reuse and rationing your toilet paper? ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #19
Economy worse now than depression? That is a big fat lie. Elwood P Dowd Jan 2013 #20
There are many long time DUer's that want to insist this is a depression. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2013 #39
BULLSHIT! Tempest Jan 2013 #102
BULLSHIT right backatya! A HERETIC I AM Jan 2013 #158
Krugman has called it a depression more than once, if that helps Samantha Jan 2013 #188
That's exactly what my grandmother told me about the Great Depression - kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #124
What many don't seem to grasp.... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2013 #168
Come back soon, again...nt SidDithers Jan 2013 #33
I'll bet you ARE confused... Carni Jan 2013 #36
"Eff" that and the "effing" feudal system thinking maxrandb Jan 2013 #69
"independent2013" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #94
"Literally worse than the Great Depression?" Really? I think you need to get to a library and do MADem Jan 2013 #151
You certainly are confused. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #157
The penalties for not providing insurance to full-time employees don't kick in until Jan. 1 _2014_.. PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #5
Well they are starting now.. xoom Jan 2013 #9
Only 6 months during the transition period... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #17
That's correct Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #38
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #107
+1 Historic NY Jan 2013 #179
Must be quite a large tattoo parlor countingbluecars Jan 2013 #7
and pay them all hourly RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #11
I've never heard of such a thing RomneyLies Jan 2013 #56
I've never gotten one done at one, JoeyT Jan 2013 #86
Such a shop won't last long RomneyLies Jan 2013 #88
Far too much down time to pay hourly Tempest Jan 2013 #106
They'll last a while, JoeyT Jan 2013 #114
They won't last long paying people to sit around Tempest Jan 2013 #123
They often charge by the hour obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #196
Yeah, I've been to two that charge by the hour. JoeyT Jan 2013 #199
I mean $150-200 an hour for work obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #206
That's 30 artists, MINIMUM RomneyLies Jan 2013 #52
Or a non-franchised chain Recursion Jan 2013 #66
Non-franchised chains are mainly local Tempest Jan 2013 #112
Are all the rules and regs for the ACA written and published? dkf Jan 2013 #70
See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #89
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #108
He's milking that fail for all it's worth Tempest Jan 2013 #125
Thought I resurrected the the Little Caesar's thread AgainsttheCrown Jan 2013 #8
And all of this to avoid raising the price of pizza some 14 cents or so. truedelphi Jan 2013 #201
a tattoo parlor with 50 employees? cool story, bro. bettyellen Jan 2013 #10
Thanks for your concern, bro. xoom Jan 2013 #13
Dude, you were caught RomneyLies Jan 2013 #57
See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #90
. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #101
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #110
Doesn't mean the OP is lying, could well be the employer either stupid or lying to employee Fumesucker Jan 2013 #15
That was my thought ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #28
Or one corporation operating multiple businesses. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #37
Tattoo artists are not paid hourly. n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #58
I've never know a tattoo artist who didn't work on commission. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #91
Businesses have been doing that since the 80s. ALL companies picked up by Bain did it. blm Jan 2013 #14
This may not be related to Obamacare but I have heard from some of my clients that the kelly1mm Jan 2013 #16
other reasons employers have not been giving people full time. they lie about the reason now. seabeyond Jan 2013 #18
I don't believe your story at all. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #21
There's no reason to. Tempest Jan 2013 #27
Lots of them have more than five jmowreader Jan 2013 #63
I'll bet none of them have 50 or more. Tempest Jan 2013 #65
See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #92
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #111
I seriously doubt that they have the minimum number of employees for the law LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #22
omg, be careful here 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #29
Yes, we have a low tolerance for scumbag idiot liars. tabasco Jan 2013 #40
who doesn't 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #47
On the fact that a lost post troll upthread got banned? Rex Jan 2013 #194
Yeah, if you have 75 employees working 20 hours a week TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #59
I'm calling B.S. on your story Tempest Jan 2013 #26
are you kidding me 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #31
Nothing to do with the story he pawned off on us. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #34
A tattoo parlor owner is not going to stay in business by pissing off artists RomneyLies Jan 2013 #81
See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #93
So you're changing your story after getting your ass handed to you Tempest Jan 2013 #96
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #113
And we have the newest DU meme RomneyLies Jan 2013 #146
LMAO! OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #183
Pardon me RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #192
You call that a meme? pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #200
I call BULLSHIT RomneyLies Jan 2013 #30
Really, 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #42
oh ,by the way 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #44
oh, by the way RomneyLies Jan 2013 #49
Unless you reply to yourself, like he did. uppityperson Jan 2013 #210
Your words reply #61... zappaman Jan 2013 #72
I have over a dozen tattoos. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #45
How many even give *any* artists a W2? I don't see the logic there Recursion Jan 2013 #71
There is zero business logic in having an hourly employee there, too. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #73
Thanks, I meant "hourly" Recursion Jan 2013 #75
Not to mention when the owner of a tattoo parlor brings in a new artists,... RomneyLies Jan 2013 #77
See post 87. xoom Jan 2013 #95
But, but, but ... tledford Jan 2013 #115
Somenever learn RomneyLies Jan 2013 #122
Why play it safe when you have a sock defending you? n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #131
I *do* apologize for all the replies but it was just TOO MUCH FUN! :-) tledford Jan 2013 #133
It's always fun to pick on cons Tempest Jan 2013 #142
OOOH, I know RomneyLies Jan 2013 #145
Makes me wonder what's coming next Tempest Jan 2013 #147
Papa John? Enrique Jan 2013 #32
Very hard n/t Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #35
ya know what? onethatcares Jan 2013 #41
America is not the greatest country in the world riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #154
Single payer would have averted that problem. Everyone would be covered Cleita Jan 2013 #43
the Tattoo place has 50 employees ? JI7 Jan 2013 #46
sometimes some of you here 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #48
Nice RomneyLies Jan 2013 #50
Condesending and not worthy of response IMHO. Tempest Jan 2013 #126
Why so White Knight? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #51
Do you even need to ask? RomneyLies Jan 2013 #60
no , it's just I know how bad if feels when 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #61
Does anyone in the republican party ever actually read the bills they pass? notadmblnd Jan 2013 #53
You don't want to go there. Tempest Jan 2013 #144
My statement wasn't limited to congress people notadmblnd Jan 2013 #172
Blanket statements like that are not productive Tempest Jan 2013 #173
I'm sure you do. notadmblnd Jan 2013 #182
My comment was based upon two different studies Tempest Jan 2013 #184
So when I make blanket statements, it unproductive notadmblnd Jan 2013 #186
When your statement is based upon opinion and emotion, yes. Tempest Jan 2013 #187
Now you're going to say your statement wasn't based on emotion? notadmblnd Jan 2013 #190
Tattoo artists are usually considered independent contractors. Codeine Jan 2013 #54
Yeah, all the tat artists I know are 1099's Recursion Jan 2013 #67
I've known of apprentices who were minimum wage employees RomneyLies Jan 2013 #79
I've just been thinking. I have NEVER had a tattoo artist who was paid hourly put a needle to me RomneyLies Jan 2013 #55
I bet there are some in 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #62
I bet you don't have a clue what you are talking about. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #64
Sucker bet. It's obvious. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #129
you know ,this is ai good example and very simple way 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #68
This has nothing to do with "owner" vs. "worker" RomneyLies Jan 2013 #74
Generally, the tattoo artist is both the owner and the worker Recursion Jan 2013 #80
How many tattoo artists work at MineralMan Jan 2013 #76
Yeah, it's generally not a "job" in the strict sense Recursion Jan 2013 #78
On top of that, most really good pieces take multiple appointments. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #84
Serious enough in my town to have one burned down Tempest Jan 2013 #135
Strange ag_dude Jan 2013 #82
Many of the ones I've known... Chan790 Jan 2013 #85
How many constitutes "many"? Tempest Jan 2013 #98
About a 1/3: 10ish out of 30ish? Chan790 Jan 2013 #117
If she's conservative, it does skew things Tempest Jan 2013 #132
Oh come on. ag_dude Jan 2013 #136
I live in Kern County Tempest Jan 2013 #138
UPDATE: she was not talking abut her job at the tattoo parlor!!! She has 2 part ti.e jobs and does xoom Jan 2013 #87
UPDATE: I'm getting hammered so I'm changing my story Tempest Jan 2013 #97
Thanks for the translation. ;) nt LisaLynne Jan 2013 #99
. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #103
oh, really take a look at this 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #100
Uh, dude. that's an independent artist who charges by the hour RomneyLies Jan 2013 #109
I haven't seen a fail like that in some time Tempest Jan 2013 #120
This thread keeps giving.... zappaman Jan 2013 #137
It's keeping me entertained. n/t Tempest Jan 2013 #140
Yeah, but there are *50* Brandon Notches that work at this gallery. :-) eom tledford Jan 2013 #127
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #128
Do you not know how to add a link??? JaneyVee Jan 2013 #116
A link would have cut through his B.S. Tempest Jan 2013 #134
First you attempt to defend the PPR'd troll upthread... Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #141
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #104
Would have worked out better just deleting the OP RomneyLies Jan 2013 #119
But not nearly as hilarious. :-) eom tledford Jan 2013 #121
It probably would die... Oilwellian Jan 2013 #170
See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #171
And 1099 employees aren't covered AT ALL. Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #189
see post 91 4 t 4 Jan 2013 #130
See post 87. eom tledford Jan 2013 #118
In the interest of pretending that I believe your story... Orrex Jan 2013 #176
. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #178
Thank god! I thought I'd never find post 87! nolabear Jan 2013 #191
I was expecting more theKed Jan 2013 #193
Then why did you include the story about the tatoo parlor as your main premise? Rex Jan 2013 #195
Because that's where the conversation took place. xoom Jan 2013 #204
IT'S POST 87 chrisau214 Jan 2013 #205
This is a sorry execuse for a reply. Thanks for playing xoom Jan 2013 #207
Regardless of what you think about my "story" xoom Jan 2013 #139
The fact that you admit it's just a "story" Tempest Jan 2013 #143
If you have to work 3 part time jobs chances are you may qualify for medicaid under Obamacare. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #148
See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #149
Would you agree that this blows for those on part time work? xoom Jan 2013 #153
See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #155
RomneyLies xoom Jan 2013 #156
See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #159
RomneyLies xoom Jan 2013 #160
See Post 91. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #161
RomneyLies xoom Jan 2013 #163
See post 152. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #166
RomneyLies xoom Jan 2013 #167
See post 162. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #169
lol. DU can make one sorry they shared. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #150
It will not hurt them notadmblnd Jan 2013 #185
I may recommend this thread just for the replies NoGOPZone Jan 2013 #162
Seriously!?!? You would do that?? xoom Jan 2013 #164
You're up to 187 posts now NoGOPZone Jan 2013 #180
This thread has everything obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #197
Umm it has the ORIGINAL post 87!!! xoom Jan 2013 #202
See post 87. PeaceNikki Jan 2013 #165
Are you arguing that large employers shouldn't ecstatic Jan 2013 #174
Post 87 was clarification for those who are a little slow Oilwellian Jan 2013 #175
See post 87. eom RomneyLies Jan 2013 #177
Oh please iwillalwayswonderwhy Jan 2013 #181
uh huh obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #198
Thank you. Bullying is bad and can lead to bad things. I guess some people are just bullies.. xoom Jan 2013 #203
Employers have been doing this for a long time. Fla Dem Jan 2013 #208
And the employers that rely on permatemps TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #212
Train Rec!!! Iggo Jan 2013 #211
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