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farminator3000

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93. you are totally confused- the hyperbole is not mine- i'm 110% right that the NRA is full o'crap

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:44 PM

Jan 2013

"the only way to stop a bad guy" is the BS

there are many, better ways, and you are wrong to defend this misguided propanganda to the general public

please desist, this is worse than arguing with my wife.

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wowsers. this emphatically refutes the 'need a gun to stop a bad guy' thing. how did i miss this?!? [View all] farminator3000 Jan 2013 OP

But they were semi-auto barstools intaglio Jan 2013 #1

It's one of your options in this kind of scenario NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #2

This was ruined for me by its repeated use of hysterical, screaming women falling CTyankee Jan 2013 #5

I didn't make it. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #6

not blaming you. I blame the makers of the video. Isn't it galling to see this, with CTyankee Jan 2013 #7

Maybe if it's made somewhere else. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #8

Maybe. but, god, I get tired of seeing this same old shit over and over again. CTyankee Jan 2013 #9

I agree. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #30

There is no defense against the force of will. Robb Jan 2013 #3

This is wisdom. Brickbat Jan 2013 #10

wise, you are... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #12

"order of Omega", huh? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #13

I'm pretty sure 135grains @ 1600fps stops a burgler OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #14

so does a dog. or an alarm. or police locks. or a motion detector. or a .22 long farminator3000 Jan 2013 #15

Nor are they mutually exclusive! OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #17

maybe a different neighborhood would be more relaxing? also, pepper spray, body armor, chainmail? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #18

Ooooh, gun porn! JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #82

Just have your people send the keyboard-cleaning bill to my people. nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #97

Sorry but my lust is directed toward "soft targets" JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #108

That's missing the point. Robb Jan 2013 #16

Guns Don't Stop Bad Guys, People Stop Bad Guys jberryhill Jan 2013 #27

And the shotgun was hung by its barrels until pronounced dead! Squatter Jan 2013 #90

You're gone soon. Enjoy it while you've got it nt MrScorpio Jan 2013 #91

He's damn lucky he hit the guy with a barstool. Bake Jan 2013 #69

Looks like he was lucky twice. Robb Jan 2013 #85

AP? Bad choice for anti-personnel. Use a JHP. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #21

Were you a French World War I general in another life? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #59

Or against people who don't give a damn if they live or not Warpy Jan 2013 #107

i found this when i was posting THIS!! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #4

Glad he didn't pull out a weapon and spray bullets everywhere n/t mokawanis Jan 2013 #11

What makes you think that a legally armed citizen would spray bullets everywhere? GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #19

it happens every day? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #26

Guns are better for defense in the home...mano a mano. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #33

Then show me an incident of a CCWer spraying bullets. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #45

tab still open took 30 seconds farminator3000 Jan 2013 #57

Fail-No CCW holder in that, but a mall ninja. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #60

nothing mentioned about a mall. what are you reading. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #76

You've not heard the term "Mall ninja" before? I thought you were knowledgable about guns... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #98

I don't see where a CCWer srayed bullets all over the place. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #65

that would be the armed guard. don't you guys read? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #80

The link does not say who fired the shots that missed. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #87

they probably both had permits. they probably both missed. they probably didn't need to be shooting farminator3000 Jan 2013 #103

The guard had to have a permit, in WA. The other guy would have been illegal. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #110

i'm not saying you can't defend yourself, i'm saying you don't need a military rifle to do it farminator3000 Jan 2013 #105

That's one innocent hit. Still not a spray of bullets. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #109

see #112 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #113

Yes, he was a hero, no doubt about that. But he was also lucky. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #20

maybe he was lucky he DIDN'T have a gun, and didn't become a target, and was able to do something farminator3000 Jan 2013 #23

The guards gun was in open view, and he was in uniform. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #24

see #26. the guard confronted the guy and he started shooting. he got in the guys face. not a target farminator3000 Jan 2013 #28

i don't only go to bars. unfortunately. but farminator3000 Jan 2013 #32

Went to bank today. Didn't shoot anybody. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #46

i stopped at the word texas. i'm sure they are very neutral and unbaised on the subject of guns, but farminator3000 Jan 2013 #55

Your anecdotes are more reliable than published statistics? It really *is* a religious... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #62

IOW, don't bother you with facts, your mind is made up. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #66

one "fact" from one state just doesn't mean a thing... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #75

Texas posts a collection of a year's results of 525,000 CHLers. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #84

i'd go with harvard over you, myself, thanks. texas data? right. interpreted by you? ha! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #92

The State of Florida has *also* refuted what you have claimed: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #99

Why are you mo ing the goalposts? Jenoch Jan 2013 #67

we resolved that in #49 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #74

B.S. You have not been able to make any point. Jenoch Jan 2013 #89

you are totally confused- the hyperbole is not mine- i'm 110% right that the NRA is full o'crap farminator3000 Jan 2013 #93

Then go on to Florida- you won't like those numbers, either: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #100

stop posting jumbled up batches of number that don't mean anything farminator3000 Jan 2013 #101

Yeah, yeah, anecdotes are better than verifiable statistics to you. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #111

lucky you. gotta be ready. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #112

You falsely assume all of those shooting were by legal gun owners. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #114

We need to put sarisataka Jan 2013 #22

I would be willing to bet that 90% of those owners of semi automatic weapons politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2013 #25

he did a hell of a job with the tools available to him. ileus Jan 2013 #29

I think that's it. He used the best that was available to him. It doesn't mean that something else.. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #35

What this terrible shooting proved Jenoch Jan 2013 #31

typing a few sentences doesn't prove anything unless you were there when it happened farminator3000 Jan 2013 #34

If you are correct, then your logic alao Jenoch Jan 2013 #36

i am correct and that makes no sense. OP was 'no comment'. why are you trying to belittle the guy? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #37

Why are you dealing Jenoch Jan 2013 #39

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said. ..... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #40

LaPierre does not speak for me. Jenoch Jan 2013 #44

i am glad to hear that! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #49

Clarity on these threads is always helpful. Jenoch Jan 2013 #50

MAYBE... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #41

MAYBE the good guy oversleeps that day Jenoch Jan 2013 #42

Please show where that has happened. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #47

ok! took less than 5 minutes. are you lazy? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #51

But only cops can save us.. SQUEE Jan 2013 #61

i'm more comfortable with cops than vigilantes, thanks. why trust any joe off the street? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #72

Far from a vigilante, or just any Joe off the street. SQUEE Jan 2013 #86

Not vigilantes. Please use language correctly. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #88

a guy going around with a gun looking for trouble sounds pretty lame to me, thanks. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #94

Not looking for trouble. Just ready if it comes to me. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #95

That was cop on cop. I asked for a CCWer. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #64

Factual accuracy is strictly optional for gun control advocates... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #70

that was EXACTLY what you asked for. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73

Attempts by armed citizens to stop shooters are rare. At least two such attempts in recent years farminator3000 Jan 2013 #38

Show what is wrong with these. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #48

ok. i have done so. stop wasting my time, please farminator3000 Jan 2013 #53

That's the NRA-bots' M.O. bongbong Jan 2013 #56

at least i showed him! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #58

They were still civilians... jp76 Jan 2013 #63

Responses. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #68

if that's what you want to call them, go ahead... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #71

I'm opposed to open carry rrneck Jan 2013 #43

Stools don't save people. People save people. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #52

ewwww! that's just gross! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #54

You don't need a gun if you have a Donk ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #77

Throwing stool at people is kind of simian slackmaster Jan 2013 #78

"Records reveal that he legally acquired at least six weapons in the years before his death." Walk away Jan 2013 #79

Personally, I recommend throwing cats. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #81

anyone who adheres to the wisdom of a bumper-sticker... LanternWaste Jan 2013 #83

Snork! -..__... Jan 2013 #96

Frail elderly ladies have saved the day too. Don't need armed cowboys jumping in. Hoyt Jan 2013 #102

and NOT SO frail..check this out! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #104

God bless that fine lady. Applause indeed. Hoyt Jan 2013 #106