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Festivito

(13,452 posts)
99. Right, you have no financial transactions to go over phone lines.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:55 AM
Jan 2013

No stake in money, politics or law to go over phone lines. None for yourself, none for family, none for friends.

Therefore you have no concern for having secret government persons listening secretly to phone calls that might secretly steal something, something that you do not have!

That makes sense!

When it comes to your view of my view, you seeing my view as RW, I see the opposite. Let me explain. The idea that MOST DUers do not have investments and from our discussion that would include stakes in such things as stock markets, retirements or even political parties -- to me would be a RW stereotypical view of LWers. But, there's hope for us. The idea that DUers have no investments is a factual argument.

We could run a poll on DU.

Hey, we could say. We have a disagreement. One DUer who says most DUers have no investments. That would include no retirement, no retirement accounts, no stocks, no bonds, ... etc., nothing that would be traded over phone lines. The other says that most DUers do!

Why, I think you would be the only DUer not to have investments in their life and times.

And, yes, off to God we go, indeed.

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #1
Let them listen to yours without a warrant, then. Me? Still fond of the 4th Amendment villager Dec 2012 #3
+1 Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Dec 2012 #5
Same here. I cannot believe how easily some give up their rights. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #25
It's what those who are so easily taking rights from them, count on. villager Dec 2012 #46
Me, too. nt LWolf Dec 2012 #55
I'm sure you are a very interesting person.... RichGirl Jan 2013 #80
Love that Amendment myself. Savannahmann Jan 2013 #84
I am not surprised. You are willing to give up freedom for security. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #8
Of course. Make them get a court order. Do you think we should wave the Constitution rhett o rick Dec 2012 #10
It could take days or weeks. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #11
No it doesnt take days. There are quick methods. In any case blanket surveillance is not warranted. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #15
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #74
I'd rather be "unsafe...." mike_c Jan 2013 #77
I know you would. nt darkangel218 Jan 2013 #78
So would I. Occulus Jan 2013 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #87
What <prize> are you willing to give up the next time the governement comes calling? Oldenuff Jan 2013 #92
Elegantly and eloquently stated. indepat Dec 2012 #58
Have a Happy Year and be back next year ready to fight harder. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #61
That's about the size of it. (nt) DirkGently Dec 2012 #59
How about reading your emails? progressoid Dec 2012 #13
Umm... my emails are pretty silly. Alot of kittehs pics :D darkangel218 Dec 2012 #18
Common response among the selfish. progressoid Dec 2012 #21
So youre calling me selfish? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #22
You're the one defending it. progressoid Dec 2012 #23
Well i personally dont have a problem, do you want me to lie? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #24
You said you're from Europe. theaocp Dec 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #30
Don't think so? Think again. theaocp Dec 2012 #33
I have np clue where youre going with that. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #35
Allow me dumb this down for you. theaocp Dec 2012 #37
Ah the "nothing to hide" argument JReed Dec 2012 #43
this mac56 Jan 2013 #85
"Can you see how this can be a problem for other people outside of your bubble?" darkangel218 Dec 2012 #28
Actually your opinion DOES count. progressoid Dec 2012 #63
Well lol it matters as much as an online forum opinion can matter darkangel218 Dec 2012 #64
might not be a bubble green for victory Dec 2012 #29
Again, what have yall done to change it? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #31
We elected a Democratic president and expected him to undo Bush's transgression on our Constitution. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #40
Good point. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #45
Would you draw the line at your doorstep, or can they come on in anytime to check to see Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #56
.... darkangel218 Dec 2012 #62
You're adorable. Brickbat Dec 2012 #17
Why thank you :p darkangel218 Dec 2012 #19
Uhhhhhhhhhh Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #27
Do you really think theyre going to intercept random peoples emails.and.phone calls? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #32
that's the point though Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #41
How many courts are going to deny the orders? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #44
Wow.. you have no idea do you. SomethingFishy Jan 2013 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author piratefish08 Jan 2013 #83
That's also how you persecute political disidents, whistleblowers, etc. Marr Dec 2012 #38
I know that and im not telling anyone to agree with me. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #49
We had to destroy the Bill of Rights Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2012 #52
The precedent has already been set in the courts. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #53
Im not too familiar with those laws in detail darkangel218 Dec 2012 #54
I just want to thank you Cal Carpenter Dec 2012 #60
The fuck? Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #65
How about your lawyer's or broker's phone calls. Festivito Jan 2013 #71
Do you invest money off shore? I dont. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #72
On shore, because that is where the OP problem is that you did not answer. Festivito Jan 2013 #75
OP asked me a question that i did not answer? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #76
Better yet: How about government spying on your lawyer's or broker's phone calls? Festivito Jan 2013 #81
I dont have "investment portofolios", so i wouldnt care about that. I didnt (re) passed this bill, darkangel218 Jan 2013 #89
"Piling up" my ONE question on someone with no investments, no retirement, no friends... Festivito Jan 2013 #93
Oh so i have nothing because i dont have investments?? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #97
Right, you have no financial transactions to go over phone lines. Festivito Jan 2013 #99
wow piratefish08 Jan 2013 #82
Fighting terrorism...or is it just a reason to strip us of our liberties? Oldenuff Jan 2013 #91
Give away your own rights, do not try to give away anyone else's. People sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #94
"inteligence" - really????? I mean REALLY?!?!?!?!?!??! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #98
Absolutely terrifying, isn't it? Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #100
WTF Skittles Jan 2013 #101
I feel like Obama doesn't want to take the chance of anything happening TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #2
You think he is continuing the Bush era spying because the Republicans have him "boxed in"? rhett o rick Dec 2012 #7
It's far less risky for him to allow FISA to continue (it's been the law for TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #16
Risky, how? He can't run again. Marr Dec 2012 #39
Risky in terms of legacy, certainly, if he goes out of his way to TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #42
He needs to do these things to be re-elected green for victory Dec 2012 #4
This is an egregious violation of our Constitution. I expect that from a Republican. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #9
Obama is a lying, conniving, lying, sack of shit who doesn't give a rats ass about this nation. Sheepshank Dec 2012 #14
Your post is incoherent JReed Dec 2012 #36
LOL, you were assuming your OP and recent response qualifies as intelligent discussion? Sheepshank Dec 2012 #47
Bizarre JReed Dec 2012 #48
Its New Years Eve. alot of people are already tipsy darkangel218 Dec 2012 #50
Perhaps areview of you own posts will reveal you are exactly what you ar talking about Sheepshank Jan 2013 #66
Eh, I largely agree with JReed and yet I posted this after Obama's first debate Fumesucker Jan 2013 #68
But it's OK. He's a Democrat and a Republican will never be in the Oval Office ever again MNBrewer Dec 2012 #20
Like the bullshit fiscal cliff, the bullshit war on terror has dumbass americans whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #34
Obama signs this and everyone makes excuses for him davidn3600 Dec 2012 #57
What exactly does he have convictions about? n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #67
I don't make international phone calls... nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #69
It still matters JReed Jan 2013 #70
"International communications" op please give a link to the actual bill, heres the list of signed Sunlei Jan 2013 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #88
This is a discussion board JReed Jan 2013 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #96
kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #95
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