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Redfairen

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19. There's one big problem with that.

Reply to RomneyLies (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:38 PM

Jan 2013

Let's say you're interpretation of the 14th amendment is correct. When Congress refuses to provide cash there is nothing which would require the president to BORROW. He could simply refuse to pay entitlements because it would cause a crisis which would call the validity of the debt into question.

What you're really saying is that the president can ignore laws, in this case the debt ceiling law. Well, if he can just ignore the debt ceiling law then he can also ignore the laws which actually spent the money. He can say the 14th amendment debt restriction is more important so he's just not going to pay out benefits and run up debt. Your constitutional problem is solved.

This is exactly where a Republican president would go with your idea.

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KEY POINT: All The Debt Ceiling does is allow for spending money CONGRESS ALREADY ALLOCATED!!! [View all] RomneyLies Jan 2013 OP

Plus, Obama has an ace up his sleeve: the 14th Amendment Panasonic Jan 2013 #1

Yep, conflicting laws RomneyLies Jan 2013 #2

The 14th Amendment is the law of the land. Panasonic Jan 2013 #3

As far as I know, Section 4 has never been tested... TreasonousBastard Jan 2013 #4

There's always the 31 USC § 5112 (k) Option RomneyLies Jan 2013 #6

That makes absolutely no sense at all. TreasonousBastard Jan 2013 #9

It means that.under the law, the Treasury Secretary has the power to strike a $1 trillion coin RomneyLies Jan 2013 #10

The trillion dollar coin is what makes no sense... TreasonousBastard Jan 2013 #12

Under the wording of the law, the Secretary may determine the denomination RomneyLies Jan 2013 #13

But they never have done anything that stupid. And... TreasonousBastard Jan 2013 #16

With the fucknuts in the GOP Caucus, there may be no choice. n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #18

bond buyers under a 14th amendmend edict run the risk of the SC yodermon Jan 2013 #5

Avoiding outright default is easy. Igel Jan 2013 #20

they know that warrior1 Jan 2013 #7

THEY know it. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #8

"The Congress shall have power...to borrow money on the credit of the United States." Redfairen Jan 2013 #11

The last debt crisis brouhaha had a lot of people suggesting... TreasonousBastard Jan 2013 #14

The last time they didn't think there was enough fucknuttery in the GOP House to actually do it, too RomneyLies Jan 2013 #15

Point being, the Congress ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY RomneyLies Jan 2013 #17

There's one big problem with that. Redfairen Jan 2013 #19

Please, stop putting fucking words in my mouth. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #21

You're not getting it. Redfairen Jan 2013 #22

I SAID NO SUCH FUCKING THING! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #23

OK then........ Redfairen Jan 2013 #24

Man, you just do not fucking get it, do you? RomneyLies Jan 2013 #25

Good deal, write to Congress. Redfairen Jan 2013 #26

No hard feelings RomneyLies Jan 2013 #27

Obama just said that in his speech! Agschmid Jan 2013 #28

It needs to be repeated time after time after time. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #29