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former_con

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24. It is true that Democrats
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:45 PM
Dec 2012

should stick to principles because the Right loves it when this side caves in, furthermore this whole debate is about pennies really we are talking about a 5 percent tax increase on the very wealthy that is nuts, that won't even give Obama enough money to pay for spending increases over the next 10 years what we really should be talking about is serious tax increases, this country is facing a financial threat bigger than any threat from any War in our history the tax rate called out in 1942 by FDR was 94 percent marginal income tax rate and he lowered the top bracked from a million down to 200K So truely the rich paid a fair share of their income to sponsor the War the countries very survival depended on it.... Today I argue we face the same threats.... How can we even be considering messing with programs that the most vulnerable among us depend on to live in favor of allow the fat cats to get fatter and fatter, It is time for a truly patriotic call for those with the means to pay the most to get this country back on an even keel. If we keep going down this dysfunctional road of beleiving the rightwingers meme of government spending being the problem than we are going to hurt the most vulnerable.

If the choice is do nothing and face ultimate collapse of the currency or force the richest to pony up and pay their real fair share than that is exactly what we the people should be demanding...

Why aren't we talking about a VAT?
Why aren't we talking about wealth tax?
Why aren't we talking about a banking or trading transaction tax?
How about a massive yearly tax on people that want to "bear arms" 5k per yearly renewable license, no infringement on your rights just pay whats due?
Seems to me that the moderates are the ones that will be pulling us ultimately toward paying this debt on the backs of the elederly and the poor.... and that really sucks.

The 250K pledge is important [View all] ProSense Dec 2012 OP
yawn. How did that Ralph Nader thingy work out in 2000 for the whiners then? graham4anything Dec 2012 #1
How's the weather on Mars? ProSense Dec 2012 #2
you remind me of the writing of graham4anything Dec 2012 #5
You remind me, ProSense Dec 2012 #6
yet another ad hominem how quaint graham4anything Dec 2012 #7
Why are you allowing this thread to ProSense Dec 2012 #9
honestly ProSense (and I have thought this for some time now) he vaguely reminds me of Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #17
Oh my! kentuck Dec 2012 #20
... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #23
LOL Skittles Dec 2012 #4
Desperate and despicable. This is entirely representative of the biggest problem we have faced for Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #11
You really have no clue whatsoever, do you? RomneyLies Dec 2012 #8
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #15
Are you somehow insinuating that... former_con Dec 2012 #25
However, the Job Creators have signed a pledge to create 20 million Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #3
Lesson learned: Promises are for suckers. n/t L0oniX Dec 2012 #10
Aw, c'mon. You don't seriously expect President Obama to do what Candidate Obama promised, do you? kath Dec 2012 #12
maybe, but $450,000 isn't much worse bigtree Dec 2012 #13
So nineteen50 Dec 2012 #14
I don't recall Obama making a $250,000 "pledge." kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #16
It's conflating with the "if you make 250k or less, your taxes will go down" bit. Robb Dec 2012 #22
That's how I recall it. I ALWAYS expected the $250k to go up, that it was a negotiation starting Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #26
Thank you! nt kelliekat44 Jan 2013 #39
Excellent OP Prosense. Thank you. In another thread many people seem to be saying In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #18
Agree. (link) Atticus Dec 2012 #19
$450k is fine railsback Dec 2012 #21
+1. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #27
Actually, you want to know the specifgics instead of this generality stanch because Coyotl Dec 2012 #31
$450k isn't that much in today's terms railsback Jan 2013 #42
The millionaires and billionaires get the same tax cut JoeDuck Dec 2012 #35
Yes, everyone gets the same cuts up to $450k (married) railsback Jan 2013 #43
The revenue we gave up is negligible anyway. The GOP was fighting for ~$1500 in tax cuts per year high density Jan 2013 #40
It is true that Democrats former_con Dec 2012 #24
+1000 Myrina Dec 2012 #30
I ALWAYS thought the $250k would go up, that it was a negotiating starting point. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #28
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #29
It has not always been like this Omaha Steve Dec 2012 #32
it was only a starting point. Obama had to compromise a little. Don't sweat the small stuff!!!! NewEngland4Obama Dec 2012 #33
In Case You Missed It... former_con Dec 2012 #34
But the revenue generated would've come from those who could least afford it. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #37
Yes not yet anyway former_con Jan 2013 #41
Great article Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #36
I have to agree with this article my father is on social security he makes 789 a month that's 9,468 Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #38
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