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newspeak

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239. i'm tired of the whole bullshite
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:50 PM
Dec 2012

i remember clearly little boots and his band of greedy robber barons spending like drunken sailors while cutting taxes for the very rich; while starting wars for his greedy corporate buddies. meanwhile, back on mainstreet, those tax cuts didn't seem to trickle down on the plebes, funds for crucial infrastructure was decreased and the states, well, they had to make up for federal funds lost. this whole fiasco seems contrived, just so the "drown us on in the damn tub", while allowing the greedy "pig, i mean big boys" even more wealth at our expense. now, especially the repugs, "oh, we're so worried about the deficit (that they created), "oh, we need to tighten our belts (the poor and what's left of the middle class). we must all share in the pain, yeah, sure. we've been sharing the pain for years, losing our homes, our decent jobs, our pensions-but, hey we need to sacrifice, right?

my aunt lives off SS and a pension. she just received a notice by the company that bought out the company she worked for-she wanted me to read the notice. the notice says that the company, at their discretion, can basically stop pensions. now, she gets about 900 in SS and 3-400 pension. with a chained CPI and if the pension is gone-she's dead. she's worked all of her damn life, as many other americans have worked, and they all do not deserve to be kicked to the curb.

if the majority of americans don't wake up fast and realize that they've been conned big time, and the only thing we are good for now days is to contribute to corporate welfare and bailing out greedy sociopaths at our expense; we may see such a disparity it will look like any third world corrupt fiefdom.

and those who are for "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps", there are many who have had their bootstraps cut or their boots stolen.

Well, my English teacher would call that an oxymoron. Cleita Dec 2012 #1
Definitely Moronic... WillyT Dec 2012 #2
Umm... no, it's one of two ways to strengthen an actuarial program Recursion Dec 2012 #6
"strengthening" the program on the backs of the poorest is despicable 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #29
SS, Medicare, Medicaid and social programs are the R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #41
Amen! nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #57
What? You mean we arent allowed to even discuss changes that might actually benefit cstanleytech Dec 2012 #76
The argument on DU IMHO was that there was no talk of a CPI. The President never said it. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #92
Nailed It, bvar22 Dec 2012 #130
and all those disaffected democrats... tomp Dec 2012 #222
3rd party dreams Left Turn Only Dec 2012 #234
you say my way will never work.... tomp Jan 2013 #249
Never IS a strong word Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #250
You're not allowed to lie and sell out grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #127
+1 ~ No more Third Way bullshit. Zorra Dec 2012 #173
+1 pam4water Dec 2012 #191
Now that's actually an oxymoron tavalon Dec 2012 #198
Agreed MissDeeds Dec 2012 #78
Doesnt it depend on what else they adjust though? cstanleytech Dec 2012 #73
If your income exceeds a certain amount, you pay extra taxes. That is why we have the JDPriestly Dec 2012 #90
Oh you wont get any disagreement from me at all over the need to cut military spending. cstanleytech Dec 2012 #109
And why are we still defending Europe and Japan and S. Korea? Flatulo Dec 2012 #187
Well the troops in South korea make a bit of sense when you look at cstanleytech Dec 2012 #188
85% of SS pension is taxable income if your income is above $45000, IIRC Kolesar Dec 2012 #177
Yes.... jberryhill Dec 2012 #152
It never got to that point because those dealing with reality were spending all their time cui bono Dec 2012 #204
This is precisely why I stayed home BrooklynBoy Dec 2012 #189
Why are you a member of this forum then? bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #192
"This year is the first time I stayed home". Wow. Just wow. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #195
It's just so wonderful to see Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #213
well, if the poster voted for mcgovern this is not about youth. tomp Dec 2012 #223
... Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #243
well, actually... tomp Jan 2013 #248
Do you want to strengthen Social Security. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #37
It's a choice, and he is choosing the more painful of the two. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #81
SS has zero to do with the Deficit. The right answer to that moron, 'David' from sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #118
Exactly. Word-for-word. Obama needs a do over. JimDandy Dec 2012 #128
+1 n/t Oilwellian Dec 2012 #149
+Agreed Liberalynn Dec 2012 #167
Nearly accurate. It has zero to do with net debt. Recursion Dec 2012 #183
I'm confused. If it has its own trust fund why does SS borrow anything? cui bono Dec 2012 #205
Treasury still has to write the checks Recursion Dec 2012 #214
Then cut the problem with treasury's cash flow, ... CRH Dec 2012 #221
How is it borrowed? Sorry, I don't get it. cui bono Dec 2012 #245
Best.Answer.Ever! tavalon Dec 2012 #199
If only he would. But it is telling that he did not. What he did do was break the ice. As another rhett o rick Dec 2012 #235
No, you're not strengthening it by weakening it. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #123
The program is there to help the needy. If it helps them less, it isn't strengthened. cui bono Dec 2012 #203
I think every DU'er needs to read this: snot Dec 2012 #224
This is a GREAT READ. Highly recommended. Gets right to the point, and kicks ass. leveymg Dec 2012 #228
Thanks for the thanks! I found it on the snot Dec 2012 #229
Goes to prove that every now and then even the truth leaks through the corporate media. ;-) leveymg Dec 2012 #231
Incredible piece Oilwellian Dec 2012 #240
+1000 n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #244
Indicates the policy choice made by Obama to reduce outlays instead of raising the cap. leveymg Dec 2012 #226
I hope no one attacks anyone who calls him out now. proof is here of his roguevalley Dec 2012 #30
We've got your senior back! JimDandy Dec 2012 #129
thank you jim honey hugs roguevalley Dec 2012 #184
Now hold on just a sec. He still hasnt said he will "cut Social Security benefits." What he did say, rhett o rick Dec 2012 #144
You know, you added too much of an explanation that actually attempted to rationalize that statement cui bono Dec 2012 #206
this place has been infested.... tomp Dec 2012 #225
Scary is a good description. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #230
I thought "oxymoron" Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #156
Maybe for Rush it should be Oxy-Moron. Cleita Dec 2012 #242
It's not oxymoronic BainsBane Dec 2012 #197
I don't know how you could have missed the MTP interview as it was replayed over and over again Cleita Dec 2012 #241
I don't spend all day watching TV BainsBane Jan 2013 #247
It's too bad that ProSense Dec 2012 #3
You're counting on the Senate? The Senate that wouldn't give Obama a Public Option when he asked? Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #35
Yes, it's too bad. If CPI is dead then there was no need for our President R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #43
I understand what you are saying, bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #49
"No, no, no." The GOP has been saying that since Obama was elected. Everybody knows that. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #66
I agree, bama blue dot. Although I think we're def. in the minority here. nt AnnieK401 Dec 2012 #212
So discouraging. TDale313 Dec 2012 #4
Republicans insist on CPI now nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #5
Repubs want it in this smaller, quick fix deal as well Oilwellian Dec 2012 #13
Why not, THIS is the prize that the "fiscal cliff" was designed for. NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #93
And that is exactly why a Dem should NEVER say it is negotiable. cui bono Dec 2012 #208
Sigh. djean111 Dec 2012 #7
post #3 Dragonfli Dec 2012 #34
It has already started. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #45
He never said that! MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #8
He said it. ProSense Dec 2012 #11
but he didn't mean it, right? Dragonfli Dec 2012 #38
When oh when will you grasp this multidimentional chess thing UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #84
LOL! JimDandy Dec 2012 #141
And even then, TDale313 Dec 2012 #12
LOL n/t Oilwellian Dec 2012 #20
LOL Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #42
This is a win for the president, Manny. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #86
A.B.W. is name of their strategy kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #143
That was not the President in that video. Lasher Dec 2012 #210
Hey Manny! tblue Dec 2012 #236
I wish I had taken a hallucinogen MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #238
How can Obama call himself a Democrat? n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #9
There's something magically litmus-testy about the way inflation is currently calculated? (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #15
Just change the party mascot to a pig/weasel hybrid GMO kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #23
I think after his SS cuts are passed he may switch Doctor_J Dec 2012 #24
Many Liberal/Progressive Democrats are asking that same question. RC Dec 2012 #44
I wonder that too. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #121
Join this website and sit on one's ass Kolesar Dec 2012 #178
He has to publicly state that he was willing to put everything on the table. bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #10
Why not offer to euthanize seniors? He'd look REALLY strong! leftstreet Dec 2012 #16
Death panels. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #18
Can't afford to lose consumers. WALMART would close. Downwinder Dec 2012 #21
Now you're being Blunt fredamae Dec 2012 #28
So you're saying... Oilwellian Dec 2012 #17
He isn't offering anything without wanting the tax cuts to expire bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #22
This SS proposal was Obama's equivalent of 'Plan B'. JimDandy Dec 2012 #137
+1 Obama is cutting SS because HE wants to. forestpath Dec 2012 #51
I believe you are correct. Lasher Dec 2012 #211
thank you. tomp Dec 2012 #227
No. That's just silly. He didn't have to say anything of the sort. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #60
It's so silly that I have received at least daa Dec 2012 #74
Hard to disagree with that, but there's always infiniti level chess. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #80
I don't care about his clever chess tactics. He offered to make elderly people suffer. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #99
No, he has tto STFU about touching SS, but unfortunately it's already too late. cui bono Dec 2012 #209
We had to destroy the village wilsonbooks Dec 2012 #14
Are you going to believe a RW rag like the TRANSCRIPT? Doctor_J Dec 2012 #19
LOL Oilwellian Dec 2012 #31
Can you proove beyond any unreasonable doubt this video is not photoshopped? idwiyo Dec 2012 #65
This has obviously been doctored in some way. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #68
It's single sourced hearsay!!111 n/t pa28 Dec 2012 #67
*snort* Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #216
By saying that he's given Republicans the ability to go on Fox and say see we were right he wants to Arcanetrance Dec 2012 #25
No, they can't claim that he is the one who wants to cut it.. bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #27
Have you met any actual Republicans? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #33
Oh but they can they have the mouthpieces in place all anyone will hear is see Obama put it there Arcanetrance Dec 2012 #36
Their behavior over the past four years... Or past twenty, for that matter... JHB Dec 2012 #233
I predict a surge in Tea Party membership. Forget about getting any gains in 2014 bahrbearian Dec 2012 #48
How can he NOT get it? world wide wally Dec 2012 #26
That would destroy his legacy RomneyLies Dec 2012 #32
Not really leftstreet Dec 2012 #39
Wow.. That is very nice.. bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #54
Oh knock it off leftstreet Dec 2012 #56
You said that it is all he will be remembered for.. bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #59
...in response to the assertion he's destroying his legacy leftstreet Dec 2012 #94
wow. you really want to make this claim? RainDog Dec 2012 #64
It's not a 'claim,' it's fact leftstreet Dec 2012 #85
LOL RainDog Dec 2012 #102
Those are facts, and here is a claim. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #117
Forget Hillary. She and Bill Clinton are more conservative and anti-Social Security than even JDPriestly Dec 2012 #103
whew DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #125
This is EXACTLY what he wanted his legacy to be. kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #63
He wants this. Exactly right! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #131
That is an accurate summary. Lasher Dec 2012 #232
It will be his legacy. iemitsu Dec 2012 #105
We already knew that when we voted for him. It always was a lesser of 2 evils vote. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #40
But we thought one of them was a Democrat leftstreet Dec 2012 #47
Yep - that about sums it up. forestpath Dec 2012 #52
Maybe we thought one was a Democrat, but A Simple Game Dec 2012 #120
Is he still the lesser of two evils if he allows cuts to 'entitlements'? SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #133
Time will tell. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2012 #161
I don't know about other people. I've always been a Democrat, but there are other alternatives JDPriestly Dec 2012 #107
Yeah either that or try to nominate better Democrats. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #111
Yes. The Party has worked to undermine very progressive candidates in the past. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #154
This is the problem with that idea: Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #218
yeah I read that and totally agree there are a lot of problems with the primary process limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #246
Two posts down thread were hidden for advocating about the same as you. JimDandy Dec 2012 #148
I'm not "advocating" for anything. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #153
To whoever objected/alerted on this post: Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #219
This is ridiculous Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #46
******MORE BULLISH HE NEVER SAID BENEFITS !!****** uponit7771 Dec 2012 #50
**WOW /// $$ *** THaT IS SOME epic DENiaL @@##!! cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #55
Remove the fucking cap! Bozita Dec 2012 #53
This always gets my vote first. n/t JimDandy Dec 2012 #146
Then does the highest pension payout become higher? Kolesar Dec 2012 #179
Any high incomers in danger of starving or not paying their heating bills during their retirements? Bozita Dec 2012 #193
Ouch! JEB Dec 2012 #58
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I guess everyone here understands that the President can only express his personal opinions.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #62
So you're saying... Oilwellian Dec 2012 #69
Are you saying the Senate will allow such legislation to hit the President's desk? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #165
There are many Dem Senators on video record who claim they would Oilwellian Dec 2012 #174
What Senate Dems say "on the record" is very different from what they do when.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #194
He never had to say it at all unless he meant it. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #75
The opinion of the President is just that, nothing more.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #166
He OFFERED to cut Social Security benefits. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #113
Nooo... not the OBVIOUS solution.... JimDandy Dec 2012 #151
as the federal reserve nineteen50 Dec 2012 #70
Yep, he's a Republican. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #71
Killing old people, veterans, kids won't strengthen. It's cowardly policy. No big ideas - jtuck004 Dec 2012 #72
Good point about Chamberlain. Obama needs to read up on that. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #115
If she is, I seriously doubt she depends on it fully, as a means of support. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #140
$990 mo SS, $400 mo pension for 28 years employed by a now gone oil co. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #145
The paychecks that are $50, $100, $200 less for the same work are the paychecks that JDPriestly Dec 2012 #155
You and I think it is necessary, and we know why. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #162
Maybe, but . . . JDPriestly Dec 2012 #164
"The people who should be called upon to sacrifice are those who have gained" jtuck004 Dec 2012 #170
Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #196
Let's see him live on less than $1,200 - $1,300 per month. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #77
Senate "fiscal cliff" negotiations hit major setback over GOP demands that it include chained-CPI ProSense Dec 2012 #79
GOP DEMANDS WHAT OBAMA PROMISED. Shocking n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #95
not true -- the talks stalled b/c Dems wanted the debt ceiling raised, IN EXCHANGE for SS cuts nashville_brook Dec 2012 #100
It should NEVER have been mentioned in the first place . . . that only complicates the negotiations DrDan Dec 2012 #101
I don't believe it. Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #82
I was watching when he said it. I knew he was going plethoro Dec 2012 #83
Terrible decision and exactly what the right wants former_con Dec 2012 #87
Our benefits are not your's to give away Obama. iemitsu Dec 2012 #89
Dear President Obama, YOU'RE NOT CHARGING THE RICH ENOUGH for ANY changes in SS or Medicare. patrice Dec 2012 #91
butt, butt, butt, it's a bi-partisan screwing stupidicus Dec 2012 #96
"We had to destroy that village in order to save it." KamaAina Dec 2012 #97
Oh, that's OK. It's just posturing and if the Repubs accept his offer he'll veto it. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #104
PBO did say a lot of his peeps were underthematrix Dec 2012 #106
I'm fine with this, IF it gets the people on board with a permanent tax hike on the rich. BanTheGOP Dec 2012 #108
du rec. nt xchrom Dec 2012 #110
Stop this madness. Social Security doesn't contribute to the deficit. Faygo Kid Dec 2012 #112
The President CLEARLY stated THAT! bvar22 Dec 2012 #135
So much for "People are crazy/disloyal for thinking Obama will offer cuts (again)!" DirkGently Dec 2012 #114
it's just trial balloon starvation. nashville_brook Dec 2012 #122
Obama and the Republicans are playing the Good Cop / Bad Cop Game AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #116
The thing that amazes me is how many on this site are going on about oh it won't pass the Senate and Arcanetrance Dec 2012 #119
You're exactly right MissDeeds Dec 2012 #126
To some on this board, that's EXACTLY what it means. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #142
Appalling FlyByNight Dec 2012 #124
This is no way to run a country. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #132
If he'd done this in his first term, he wouldn't have had a second term. lob1 Dec 2012 #134
SS DOES NOT ADD ONE NICKEL TO THE DEFICIT. WTF. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #136
Defense Cuts?! joelfreak Dec 2012 #138
I would bet you money... Oilwellian Dec 2012 #147
Really! Obama must have missed all the negotiating JimDandy Dec 2012 #159
GET WITH THE PROGRAM, JOELFREAK!!! Skittles Dec 2012 #168
I beat you because I love you. CranialRectaLoopback Dec 2012 #139
you couldn't even poost your thread title without manipulating Obama's words MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #150
Oh Oilwellian Dec 2012 #157
it actually doesn't affect existing benefits. its a change in the rate of growth. MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #163
Really? Oilwellian Dec 2012 #176
Yes, you can cut cost and gain in benefits....Obama skilled bashers not uponit7771 Dec 2012 #201
The President said that the Chained CPI will 'strengthen SS'. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #160
+1! uponit7771 Dec 2012 #200
This is NOT what I, and millions of other people VOTED FOR!! DearHeart Dec 2012 #158
...and my decision is, I won't do it" n/t Pryderi Dec 2012 #169
I heaven05 Dec 2012 #171
Betrayal italiangirl Dec 2012 #172
Don't give up Oilwellian Dec 2012 #181
"In pursuit of bashing Obama, I'm willing to make up bullshit" NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #175
Why was SS increased at higher than the Consumer Price Index, anyway? eom Kolesar Dec 2012 #180
The title does not match or even paraphrase what the man said. And if you read the entire Tutonic Dec 2012 #182
You're right. I just checked. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #207
Can we all finally agree that there was never a pony? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #185
Mr. President haydukelives Dec 2012 #186
K&R DeSwiss Dec 2012 #190
That does not even make sense! CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #202
Where's William Pitt when we really need him? BigBearJohn Dec 2012 #215
Assuage the large scale butt hurt? eom Kolesar Dec 2012 #217
There was never any danger Republicans would support chained CPI anyway. bornskeptic Dec 2012 #220
Our politicians, including Obama, answer to those who bought them! We allow bribery and extortion Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #237
i'm tired of the whole bullshite newspeak Dec 2012 #239
I'm a senior and I'm okay with this underthematrix Jan 2013 #251
Unfortunately BO is a tool....... Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #252
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