I've never thought of liberal philosophy as far as how it relates to governing this country. (Reply #12)

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Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:49 AM

UnrepentantLiberal (11,700 posts)

12. I've never thought of liberal philosophy as far as how it relates to governing this country.

I've always said I'm a liberal because of what I believe. (Environmentalism, civil rights, marriage equality, women's rights, etc.)

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71 replies	Author	Time	Post
What is the difference between the terms "liberal" and "progressive" in American politics? [View all]	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	OP
You'll get a different answer from everyone.	MineralMan	Dec 2012	#1
This is a really great question and timely.	MrYikes	Dec 2012	#2
What is not stupid	tama	Dec 2012	#19
Not "stupid"	MissMillie	Dec 2012	#32
"Progressive" is the term that had to be pressed into service	annabanana	Dec 2012	#3
Correct	Freddie	Dec 2012	#15
The term Progressive goes back to the turn of the 20th Century. It denoted substantial reform	leveymg	Dec 2012	#52
That's a pretty good definition there levey.......	socialist_n_TN	Dec 2012	#69
Actually, Liberal is actually a terribly non descriptive term. It means UNREGULATED.	KittyWampus	Dec 2012	#58
The correct historical definitions:	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#4
As a liberal that ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2012	#9
Not me. I wear Liberalism like a badge of honor.	JaneyVee	Dec 2012	#11
As do I. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2012	#30
When the ancient	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#28
Let me chew on that ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2012	#31
One of the most	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#36
Funny, you mention Dr. King's "transformation" into a "real" threat ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2012	#50
Jesse's runs -- and	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#53
I comletely agree ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2012	#57
You were right.	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#64
Jesse Jackson's key phrase ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2012	#70
I was pleased to stumble across this subthread	PETRUS	Dec 2012	#65
I've never thought of liberal philosophy as far as how it relates to governing this country.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#12
Interesting.	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#68
Of course I connect them with politics.	UnrepentantLiberal	Jan 2013	#71
Amazing, you offer the actual definition, and instantly folks come to say 'I don't like the real one	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2012	#20
I wasn't questioning the definition,	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#25
I actually was not referring to you, so I guess your leap is also amazing.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2012	#37
Then it was ME who jumped to conclusions.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#45
Thus, the question becomes:	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#29
Very astute ...	1StrongBlackMan	Dec 2012	#34
Republicans benefit from that confusion.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2012	#39
Yep, definitely.	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#67
The nature of	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#66
That's simply incorrect. Downthread, someone has the historical definition of "liberal":	Romulox	Dec 2012	#41
A wonderful example	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#48
LOL. You used a term incorrectly, and then proceeded to lecture others ad nauseum.	Romulox	Dec 2012	#55
Yes. My mistake	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#56
A "laissez-faire economic policy" is the economics of the hard right, for a start.	Romulox	Dec 2012	#60
If we were to	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#63
What's the difference, then, between a "Progressive" and a "Revolutionary"? Not	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#42
In the context	H2O Man	Dec 2012	#44
Always an interesting discussion topic. Some dictionary definitions -	NRaleighLiberal	Dec 2012	#5
None except..	kentuck	Dec 2012	#6
This is my impression as well....	hlthe2b	Dec 2012	#10
in the spirit nraleighliberal	xchrom	Dec 2012	#7
The definition of liberal is quite different in England.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#14
.	NRaleighLiberal	Dec 2012	#21
...	xchrom	Dec 2012	#24
All Progressives are also Liberal but not all Liberals are also Progressive.	JaneyVee	Dec 2012	#8
"Progressive" has not yet been fully demonized?	Fumesucker	Dec 2012	#13
Believe me they're working on it	Freddie	Dec 2012	#16
^This^	Bad_Ronald	Dec 2012	#23
Not me.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#26
Liberal is a noun and progressive is a verb	proud2BlibKansan	Dec 2012	#17
"progressive" emphasizes the notion that progress can and should be made	HereSince1628	Dec 2012	#18
I've noted that Thom Hartmann seems to use the term "progressive" more often. n/t	NRaleighLiberal	Dec 2012	#22
Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern. nt.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#27
Liberals know the direction we need to move	randr	Dec 2012	#33
17, 18, & 33 work for me.	Gidney N Cloyd	Dec 2012	#35
Both terms are meaningless.	mmonk	Dec 2012	#38
Originally, "progressives" were Republicans and northern Democrats around 1900	Recursion	Dec 2012	#40
Do we not like Daily Kos here?	timesamillion	Dec 2012	#43
That was posted in 2008. Too late to comment, I'm afraid. ;-)	leveymg	Dec 2012	#54
Corporatists are busy with propaganda to try	woo me with science	Dec 2012	#46
There are some good points made upthread.	LWolf	Dec 2012	#47
Speaking of twisting the meaning of words for political purposes...	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#49
I don't think there is much difference in terms of philosophy...	Kalidurga	Dec 2012	#51
Liberal simply means progressive & isn't specific. In Europe, Neo-Liberal means unregulated markets.	KittyWampus	Dec 2012	#59
"Neo-liberal" means the same thing in the United States. That's because it's very close to	Romulox	Dec 2012	#61
History has clouded what liberalism actually is	JReed	Dec 2012	#62

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