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Demo_Chris

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78. Would you expect Hillary to fight for them if she said she would?

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:54 AM

Dec 2012

I would.

I expect that Hillary would fight for them even if she thought she might lose. I think she would go to the American people and make her case there. I think she would fight beyond exhaustion. And if she lost, well, no one would say she didn't try.

You know what I wouldn't expect from President Hillary?

I wouldn't expect her to campaign as the defender of social security then a month after reelection propose cutting it. I don't know Hillary personally, but she strikes me as someone who means what they say. I suspect that if Hillary promised to end the wars, she would end the wars. Not four years down the road, not five, but immediately. If she campaigns on gay rights I believe that you can take it to the bank that she means it -- she won't need vice president Warren to give her a shove.

Hopefully we find out! She has my absolute support.

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President Obama can easily satisfy and silence liberal critics [View all] Demo_Chris Dec 2012 OP

The Tea Party folk have a mistaken belief. Igel Dec 2012 #1

^ This. +1000. (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #6

Excellent post. That laundry list applies to the poster, but millions of other Obama supporters pnwmom Dec 2012 #11

Your right, people vote for their own personal reason marlakay Dec 2012 #14

^^^ ditto x 100. nt CincyDem Dec 2012 #88

Thanks. My response below. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #61

+1 nt MADem Dec 2012 #26

Very true, and well said, but... (response below) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #66

I wish there were an award for "Post Of The Day"!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #126

Great post. Kick and Rec.... /nt think Dec 2012 #2

and others understand how the United States Congress works... uponit7771 Dec 2012 #3

It is a shame One of the 99 Dec 2012 #63

OMG! RobertEarl Dec 2012 #4

Oh, is that all? Why didn't you say so? Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #5

A few more: snot Dec 2012 #7

Except for the first item, these are under Congress's authority not the pres Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #101

I see a much simpler way of putting it starroute Dec 2012 #8

Thanks! You said it much better than me. (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #67

Very well said Liberalynn Dec 2012 #83

Bull. There will always be critics on the left and the right, no matter how good a job he does. pnwmom Dec 2012 #9

Your post right here should be reiterated again and again on DU. CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #21

I think he could do a lot to see that the Patriot Act isnt continued forever. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #22

And that's just one item on the laundry list of things he should be "demanding," pnwmom Dec 2012 #38

Civil liberties is not an option for a Democratic society. It's not something on a sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #59

That may be so... Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #68

Yeah because you know what goes on in the president's mind. Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #102

Sabrina, please consider making this an OP. woo me with science Dec 2012 #114

I am sick to death of the covering up of these issues, or the attempt to do sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #131

And I second that. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #158

I LOVE YOUR MIND Drew Richards Dec 2012 #139

Somehow I am just now reading this post. You said what needs to be said. I think that's called rhett o rick Jan 2013 #159

Tax rates, unemployment benefits, SS and Medicare benefits are things that might "disappoint" me. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #160

actually he can kill the Bush tax cuts without any help at all from Congress hfojvt Dec 2012 #58

That's one of the problems with emo progs: emotions are completely fungible & transferable . . . patrice Dec 2012 #29

So, which of the listed goals is he fighting for? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #30

The very first one, for example. pnwmom Dec 2012 #40

Are we rewriting history here? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #69

You are. pnwmom Dec 2012 #123

Response Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #137

We are not really out of Iraq either. RC Jan 2013 #151

Yeah that was my thoughts too....... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #164

Do you pay any attention to the news beyond the pablum fed to you by the American infotainment Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #134

You have demonstrated absolutely no objective judgement, you are simply pnwmom Dec 2012 #135

That's funny. I listed specific facts while you resorted to Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #156

What? No diabolical "Look! your shoelace is untied!" comeback? Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #157

Let's be clear about DOMA. What he has done hasnt helped anyone. His agencies are still enforcing it rhett o rick Jan 2013 #161

Compromise obxhead Dec 2012 #10

Like it or not, it's politics, they can't do anything for anyone who won't support on anything but patrice Dec 2012 #12

call yourself whatever you want. you're a purist and a radical pasto76 Dec 2012 #13

Even Obama knows that he is a moderate republican: think Dec 2012 #15

"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream ... Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #48

It was sarcasm but we'll pretend you comprehended that..... think Dec 2012 #51

Ooops! My bad ... Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #52

Yep. I must really think Obama thinks he's a moderate Republican. think Dec 2012 #54

Yes, you very obviously weren't being sarcastic at all ... Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #55

Been here since March 2008. But this is sudden in your books? think Dec 2012 #109

I guess it was the fact Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #132

. Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #57

It never would have passed the Senate. boxman15 Dec 2012 #110

So why even try is what you're saying Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #116

So Obama proposed those things then? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #70

correction.. We elected a Democrat,.. capital D. . . . n/t annabanana Dec 2012 #82

Absolutely timesamillion Dec 2012 #112

what kind of nasty piece of work does it take to try to make "liberal" a bad word here? DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #124

The ONLY reason Liberal is on the far left edge of Democrat, is because the Democratic Party RC Jan 2013 #152

WTF? "We understand that politics is the art of the possible" NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #16

Expecting a Democratic President to fight for Dem positions is not impossible (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #72

K&R MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #18

I've seen a few of your posts on here bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #19

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #125

I think your post proves he'll never be able to silence you critics... Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #20

Thanks for the lesson, DIrish. Cha Dec 2012 #23

Great post! bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #24

Outstanding refutation. nt MADem Dec 2012 #27

Some details there: bhikkhu Dec 2012 #31

The graph on defense spending is fascinating davidpdx Dec 2012 #89

Yes, though note the Heritage Foundation bias there - bhikkhu Dec 2012 #120

Thank you and I love you, D I. nt babylonsister Dec 2012 #37

Wel done! Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #53

Thanks for the reality check. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #64

Reread my post. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #73

"President Obama can easily satisfy and silence liberal critics" ProSense Dec 2012 #75

The OP is nonsensical drivel ProSense Dec 2012 #74

I agree, protectionism killed us in the last 20s and early 30s davidpdx Dec 2012 #100

THIS response is why I rec'd & tweeted the thread.. . . .n/t annabanana Dec 2012 #85

"I'm sure if the votes had been there in '10, we would have that system. They weren't." LWolf Dec 2012 #115

Nicely said. great white snark Dec 2012 #133

So why do we have a President at all, if he can't do anything? RC Jan 2013 #153

I am proud to say that I will continue to push him to fix this mess we find ourselves in. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #162

So, the basic question here is: Do YOU have the numbers to accomplish your goals? patrice Dec 2012 #25

kick samsingh Dec 2012 #28

Go see Lincoln the movie. Demanding 100% of your personal laundry list is well, self-serving to you graham4anything Dec 2012 #32

+1. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #41

Would you expect Hillary to fight for them if she said she would? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #78

"I expect that Hillary would fight for them even if she thought she might lose. " ProSense Dec 2012 #80

As Bing Crosby said Everybody has an angle, and we know yours graham4anything Dec 2012 #105

Isn't there ProSense Dec 2012 #106

No, it was about everybody having an angle graham4anything Dec 2012 #119

Where have I EVER said I don't like Hillary? Find ONE example! (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #138

the post didn't quote your post graham4anything Dec 2012 #141

This is hillarious! bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #90

I don't know Hillary's policy positions. I do know... Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #95

You don't know her policy positions? bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #97

Did she not work hard for Obama? To the point of physical collapse? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #140

Unrec. and bite me. Where did you come from? babylonsister Dec 2012 #33

. ProSense Dec 2012 #81

A lot of posters evidently didn't make it all the way to this part of your OP Fumesucker Dec 2012 #34

+1 think Dec 2012 #35

I got to that part. But it didn't overcome the "demand" part. nt pnwmom Dec 2012 #42

Which tells me it was poorly written on my part. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #44

Not really Fumesucker Dec 2012 #46

... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #76

So I have learned. I won't be in a hurry to do this again. (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #79

Don't sweat it. bvar22 Dec 2012 #118

Thanks. I wish I had said it half as well as you just did. (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #142

Happy New Year! Agony Dec 2012 #145

I wish I had read your post before I started posting buzzroller Dec 2012 #94

Indeed. woo me with science Dec 2012 #62

Just do it? Do you happen to know why sooooooo many people think Presidents are KINGS? patrice Dec 2012 #36

There is no point in wasting your time bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #39

My "agenda" is reading and thinking about what others have to say. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #43

So when others provide detailed responses bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #45

My apologies. (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #84

Extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich another four years think Dec 2012 #47

Why do you need someone else to demand and fight for these things? treestar Dec 2012 #49

I am not the President. My part was working to see Obama elected Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #87

Actually, the President has said many times bama_blue_dot Dec 2012 #96

We saw what happened to OWS... but I guess there is no point in electing a champion to your cause eilen Jan 2013 #149

What about the governor of your state treestar Dec 2012 #104

I am. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #143

It's so heartening to see Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #50

Did I need a special reason to register or post? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #92

Yikey, that was probably your first mistake. You should have lurked for a while. eilen Dec 2012 #107

No special reason required. Summer Hathaway Dec 2012 #147

I had no illusions about President Obama. The only thing I knew for sure was the Supreme Court, still_one Dec 2012 #56

Threads like these always fascinate me, woo me with science Dec 2012 #60

+1 Thank you. djean111 Dec 2012 #65

Why don't you ProSense Dec 2012 #71

Granted, it is something -- a tiny bit of something BlueStreak Dec 2012 #91

Look MA!!! bvar22 Dec 2012 #121

Well said. woo me with science Dec 2012 #130

+1000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #77

Thanks. It has certainly been an eye opening experience for me. (nt) Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #93

People on the Right should realy just shut up and enjoy. They won. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #86

Your list is a few short. Let me add........ Hotler Dec 2012 #98

Since this administration has opted to continue many of the criminal policies of Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #103

Then you better get busy finding the uber Progressive candidate for 2016 ... or ... JoePhilly Dec 2012 #99

Amen to that. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #108

Question: Since when is "ending the wars" and what not uber-progressive? Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #144

Fine. Get the House and Senate in line, then. CakeGrrl Dec 2012 #111

Millions of Democrats have the same goals Oilwellian Dec 2012 #113

Bush dismantled decades of progress in 100 days Generic Other Dec 2012 #117

DURec! bvar22 Dec 2012 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #127

sure , all he has to do is do what he says he will do instead of what the cons tell him to do...but bowens43 Dec 2012 #128

I don't know that he's trying to "silence" them, I just think the American people stopped....... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #129

True, but... Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #146

They only have to tune in to MSNBC, or KTLK, etc. There are liberal options. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #148

in post 148, Traheel_Dem says: bvar22 Jan 2013 #154

Aren't you precious? Hopefully, the poster I actually responded to knew that I.... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #165

Seeing how little those priorities have become, or are likely to become, realities indepat Dec 2012 #136

Yeah he can BY DOING WHAT HE PROMISED DiverDave Jan 2013 #150

So easy to say. How would you work with the Congress in place? CakeGrrl Jan 2013 #163

How about not nominating rethugs for cabinet posts? DiverDave Jan 2013 #166