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NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
6. so, if "highly trained" shooters miss that much
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:48 AM
Dec 2012

why would you think you can do any better?

And you are really using 15 12-gauge shots for hunting deer? Seriously? All I know is that I don't want to go hunting with you.

Ranchers with bum eyes and iron sights pitted against wiley coyotes might want more Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #1
. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #3
You've never taken a shot at a coyote and missed. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #39
Perhaps they should hunt Wiley Coyote with an Anvil or a Piano... Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #110
You can have my piano when you pry it out of my cold dead fingers Bucky Jan 2013 #199
Ok, we can kill him with an anvil. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #203
What I ask the guys around here on things like that - bhikkhu Dec 2012 #2
That pretty much sums it up. nt NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #5
30 round magazine... LP2K12 Dec 2012 #43
I never have a round chambered reverend_tim Dec 2012 #107
I agree with you. LP2K12 Dec 2012 #109
What about three rounds only for shotguns Bandit Dec 2012 #108
What federal law? N/T beevul Dec 2012 #148
Citation? PavePusher Jan 2013 #191
Arms Race Darque Wing Dec 2012 #123
Four assailants? OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #4
so, if "highly trained" shooters miss that much NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #6
Highly trained was in quotes because cops, by most observations, OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #11
15 round 12 gauge? Drahthaardogs Dec 2012 #40
If you are thinking of a KSG, OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #45
To be honest, I would rather spend $1000 Drahthaardogs Dec 2012 #146
If you manage to drill one, do you think the other 3 are going to stick around for the reload? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #14
Most of my guns are for recreation. Not really for home defense. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #19
I have no issues with that Major Nikon Dec 2012 #21
That study is deeply flawed. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #172
You obviously have a very poor understanding of how case controlled studies work Major Nikon Dec 2012 #174
I understand case control very well. I also understand bias. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #182
There are numerous studies which show the same thing Major Nikon Jan 2013 #185
I lost track. Are you talking about criminals, coyotes, or deer with that question? Bucky Jan 2013 #200
Yes Major Nikon Jan 2013 #202
Back in the Marine Corps... Recursion Dec 2012 #20
I'll keep that in mind for the next time I go to war with the neighbors Major Nikon Dec 2012 #22
Not exactly analogous. Straw Man Jan 2013 #179
"Pumping 60 rounds into one or two perps" Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #32
You just made the case for large capacity magazines Hugabear Dec 2012 #62
That thing would weigh a ton loaded. We have a 3 round limit in Ohio for deer n/t doc03 Dec 2012 #65
Depends on who's buyin' jberryhill Dec 2012 #7
Because it's not enough for pretty much any self-defense scenario that I can think of. krispos42 Dec 2012 #8
I'm not grabbing a gun. I'm letting my dog take care of them. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #10
Yeah, because no invader has ever shot a dog... Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #42
Hogwash. 99Forever Dec 2012 #84
Big loud barking targets ... Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #153
Not if he has Berserker Dec 2012 #171
Snarling, biting, flesh... 99Forever Jan 2013 #176
My dads dobie spent half its life blind after a robbery. Xithras Jan 2013 #190
Really? 99Forever Jan 2013 #194
Once, on one of those A&E Mafia shows FrodosPet Dec 2012 #13
Lemme ask you a counter-question Major Nikon Dec 2012 #15
That's overall. krispos42 Dec 2012 #88
I'm sure most of the people who had guns which were used to kill family members Fresh_Start Dec 2012 #104
Everyone is subject to depression Major Nikon Dec 2012 #157
True krispos42 Dec 2012 #162
You probably will be Major Nikon Dec 2012 #164
I think you need more guns and bullets Confusious Dec 2012 #38
At that point, it's time for my nuclear hand grenade! krispos42 Dec 2012 #140
In that scenario I want 15 + 1 in the chamber. Bake Dec 2012 #136
Who needs a sports car? Why not eliminate all things we don't think people need The Straight Story Dec 2012 #9
Now you're just being ridicuolus. NashvilleLefty Dec 2012 #12
Why not let people buy RPGs, hand grenades, and cluster bombs? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #16
The RPG is just a metal tube; you can easily buy that today Recursion Dec 2012 #18
What do you think about claymores and flame throwers? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #23
Those are not firearms Atomsk Dec 2012 #26
The 2nd Amendment doesn't say firearms Major Nikon Dec 2012 #33
We know it means firearms. We have the Federlist Papers and the Congressional Records... NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #53
Doesn't matter Major Nikon Dec 2012 #60
Citing the Federalist Papers is an example of Originalism. nt NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #66
And an NRA talking point. nt oldhippie Dec 2012 #69
And common throughout the legal realm, used by many groups, both liberal and conservative. NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #71
So where does it say firearms? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #73
It uses arms, but the context makes it clear it was firearms. NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #82
Just refer to the 1st Militia act - intent is VERY easy to see. jmg257 Dec 2012 #83
Understand your point. NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #99
Which is completely irrelevant to Scalia's argument Major Nikon Dec 2012 #161
It also says.... 99Forever Dec 2012 #86
Do you even know what it means? NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #87
Yes I do... 99Forever Dec 2012 #94
I have neither of those. NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #98
Of course you don't. 99Forever Dec 2012 #105
Because it's not true in most cases. NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #120
Blather on. 99Forever Dec 2012 #135
Yes. You have. n/t PavePusher Jan 2013 #192
Flame throwers are classified as agricultural devices. N/T beevul Dec 2012 #149
Just Hummers that aren't in a war zone . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #27
That's a mature argument. Barack_America Dec 2012 #70
Has nothing to do with the debate at hand. Dash87 Dec 2012 #106
False. Marinedem Dec 2012 #168
Feral pigs. Plus ten rounds has been pretty standard for over 100 years Recursion Dec 2012 #17
Canada required that they all be either disposed of or modified. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #34
How many were disposed of or modified? (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #50
Put it this way laundry_queen Jan 2013 #180
I dont follow your logic Atomsk Dec 2012 #24
Notice Stalin didn't catch that nifty quote from Marx . Welcome to DU ! orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #28
Indeed he didn't. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #77
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #152
IIRC, you wanted a list of people you thought were "mental" so you could ghettoize them Kolesar Dec 2012 #29
Oh, please. The asymmetry between civilians and the state is absolute and insurmountable. Robb Dec 2012 #51
Then mere possibility of armed response by the people SQUEE Dec 2012 #68
Utter fantasy. And if you were a "grunt" you didn't pay attention. Robb Dec 2012 #74
I paid attention well enough to notice a metric shit ton SQUEE Dec 2012 #81
I wasn't a grunt, but I paid attention ..... oldhippie Dec 2012 #119
Col. Muammar Gaddafi will be glad to hear that .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #72
Because the Libyan army is just like the USMC. Robb Dec 2012 #75
You will refuse to get the point, so ...... oldhippie Dec 2012 #118
Those helicopters didn't seem to be of much use against the beltway snipers. beevul Dec 2012 #150
Syria did not get your memos. PavePusher Jan 2013 #193
I thought this was going to be about UFC Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #25
Or budget negotiations...eom Kolesar Dec 2012 #30
There are those times when you are accosted by 4 muggers.... n/t 2on2u Dec 2012 #31
If you are a self appointed community watch guard and you see a kid who is obviously black Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #35
well suppose you have a big family or several coworkers......don't want to have to reload. bowens43 Dec 2012 #36
Trained officers have a 17% hit ratio. ileus Dec 2012 #37
Real world? safeinOhio Dec 2012 #41
Beckwith fired 105 rounds defending his home & store. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #47
That's a nice armed security story about a high volume safeinOhio Dec 2012 #48
In the real world Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #63
Treatment for erectile dysfunction. morningfog Dec 2012 #44
..And that explains my Fiance, or my sisters SQUEE Dec 2012 #46
Women need help sometimes, too. morningfog Dec 2012 #52
And what do we "claim" to be? NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #59
I have no idea who you are or what you claim to be. morningfog Dec 2012 #64
More penis obsession... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #89
+1,000. And the bogus alert on this failed, BTW - much whining about it in Meta. apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #177
Yep - I like M1903s and they hold 5 rounds. jmg257 Dec 2012 #49
Why do I need more rounds? guardian Dec 2012 #54
There are things that would make you feel better. GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #58
Self defense, especially in the case of hand guns ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #55
And that's what I would propose as well. nt NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #56
Four zombies slackmaster Dec 2012 #57
After you fire your 3 shots you can always use the gun as a club Chisox08 Dec 2012 #156
There are several reasons. Link herein. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #61
4 armed intruders? crazyjoe Dec 2012 #67
Which happens when? Robb Dec 2012 #76
What happens when? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #102
ya, that's what i meant........ crazyjoe Dec 2012 #147
Generally, when four armed guys kick down your door... backscatter712 Dec 2012 #151
In a debate here at DU, I was told that you need an assault weapon for herds of wild hogs. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #78
Which are real, and very rare nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #101
In the same thread, an informed hunter... Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #112
If it wasn't tragic nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #116
I'm curious, Nadin, how many hogs have you shot? .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #121
The cartridges may be totally adequate, but... Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #125
I'm really sorry to disappoint you, but .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #142
I gotta say nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #155
Actually, my dear Nadin, you know less than you think ... oldhippie Dec 2012 #158
What part of MILGRADE did you miss nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #159
None. How many hogs have you killed? oldhippie Dec 2012 #163
Gee kettle and all that. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #165
Fine. When you can't win an argument, ignore the issue .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #167
Gee...speaking off nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #169
Bad shots and slow ducks. leveymg Dec 2012 #79
Shotguns for decades have been made to carry 5 rounds. There was a time when duck hunting Purveyor Dec 2012 #80
Can anyone provide a reason for more than 3 rounds? oldhippydude Dec 2012 #85
Can anyone provide a reason rrneck Dec 2012 #90
My 1st and last post on this whole gun issue Separation Dec 2012 #91
Notice in your picture, no high capacity magazines, no assault rifles, no body armor DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #95
Bottom right of pic Hangingon Dec 2012 #113
From that pic, you can't tell what model Mini 14 that is, or even if it is a mini 14 for sure. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #117
Please show me a link to a bolt action Mini-14 ...... oldhippie Dec 2012 #122
Here is a link with a picture of a mini 14 with bolt action, plenty more. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #126
Uh, that is a Ruger 77 Scout rifle NickB79 Dec 2012 #130
Actually it is the Ruger GSR Glassunion Dec 2012 #132
My bad, that is a 77, however Mini 14 was made with a bolt action for the UK market. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #138
No bolt action. This is the same Mini 14 action as sold here. Hangingon Jan 2013 #188
Those are collector's items in the US NickB79 Jan 2013 #198
For someone who knows it all, here is your proof. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #141
Hello, that's a Scout Rifle MicaelS Dec 2012 #131
Here is the Mini 14 with straight pull bolt action, for those who still think it doesn't exist. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #139
That's quite a stretch, but I like it ..... oldhippie Dec 2012 #143
They were made for the UK market, but I guess you didn't know that. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #145
Yeah, poor sods, ...... oldhippie Dec 2012 #154
UK Mini-14 Straw Man Jan 2013 #178
I said they were made for the UK market, are you telling me we don't get foreign DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #183
No ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #184
Are you under the impression straight pulls are slow to fire? NickB79 Jan 2013 #197
This message was self-deleted by its author Marinedem Dec 2012 #170
I can tell. And Ruger Arms lists no bolt action Mini 14s. Hangingon Jan 2013 #186
The shotgun (second gun/person from right) appears to be a Mossberg 500 series.... PavePusher Jan 2013 #196
Magazine capacity is a very important issue but not the only issue. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #92
You forgot smart bullets. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #100
And the shoulderthingthatgoesup Glassunion Dec 2012 #129
"high velocity rounds"? You mean common hunting ammo, right? n/t PavePusher Jan 2013 #195
Is there a limit on the number of people invited to a home invasion? Remmah2 Dec 2012 #93
You've been watching too many movies! DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #96
It is not that uncommon for there to be multiple home invaders. Glassunion Dec 2012 #128
Suppose you have a shootout with an attacker Ter Dec 2012 #97
Let's stick with the legal precedent nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #103
And to think some people have access to high capacity magazines and full automatic weapons. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #111
5 rounds is tops on any hunting rifle madrchsod Dec 2012 #114
Self-defense. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #115
More than one bad guy? Zax2me Dec 2012 #124
I've never hunted bear or had to defend myself against a wounded one, but Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #127
Dangerous deer.... Historic NY Dec 2012 #133
What does hunting have to do with Jenoch Dec 2012 #134
Simple convenience n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #137
Deer run quickly OmahaBlueDog Dec 2012 #144
Where is hunting mentioned in the second amendment, again? X_Digger Dec 2012 #160
Your limits are close to what I think the limits should be. JoeyT Dec 2012 #166
5 for a rifle? My Grandfathers M 92 Winchester oneshooter Dec 2012 #173
I meant detachable magazines, JoeyT Jan 2013 #175
A friend of mine came up with a clever solution to the problem of loading tube-magazine .22s slackmaster Jan 2013 #187
I like what Wanda Sykes said... (not exact quote) If you need 100 rounds to shoot a deer, remind me Sparky 1 Jan 2013 #181
Unless you can present some evidence to support your assertions... PavePusher Jan 2013 #189
A pack of wolves? Four grizly bears? Hell, 2 grizzlies would take more than 3 shots. nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #201
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #204
In twenty years, there probably won't be anymore lions in the wild to shoot MrScorpio Apr 2013 #205
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