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20. Then don't assert it as though it's so.

Reply to mike_c (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:41 PM

Jan 2012

Once in committee - it isn't going to come out like this.

You're supporting the OP - let's see the evidence.

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A Reverse Income Tax: A Bold Replacement for Social Security, Welfare, Food Stamps, and others [View all] BrentWil Jan 2012 OP

The negative income tax was discussed in the Nixon Administration. immoderate Jan 2012 #1

Friedman did propose it.. BrentWil Jan 2012 #5

I had an uncle who proposed it in Canada. Studied it in university. From what I can remember it applegrove Jan 2012 #10

Well, even if they couldn't get a job, 30K a year is a decent safety net... BrentWil Jan 2012 #29

I like the idea notadmblnd Jan 2012 #2

actually, I think the idea has been around for a while, and I like it.... mike_c Jan 2012 #3

No it has... BrentWil Jan 2012 #6

Oy. Anything to get rid of SS. Nt xchrom Jan 2012 #4

it would likely be better than SS and would serve all the same purposes, in any event.... mike_c Jan 2012 #7

Please provide reliable authoritative citations xchrom Jan 2012 #11

People don't get 50K in SS benefits per year when they retire. That is what I am saying to give BrentWil Jan 2012 #13

Provide your authoritative background xchrom Jan 2012 #17

Its my fucking OP BrentWil Jan 2012 #23

You're not an expert - provide your authoritative links. xchrom Jan 2012 #35

I'm sorry-- the OP isn't mine and I don't have the inclination to research it's claims for you... mike_c Jan 2012 #16

Then don't assert it as though it's so. xchrom Jan 2012 #20

Here is some links... BrentWil Jan 2012 #25

I am proving a theoretical idea BrentWil Jan 2012 #26

It's fantasy - at best. xchrom Jan 2012 #34

2010 Social Security adminstrative costs: 0.9% muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #8

You are properly right on SS BrentWil Jan 2012 #15

Um...we're already there. At least in regards to efficiency jeff47 Jan 2012 #9

Yeah, I will change the OP now... 14% overhead is still high, however BrentWil Jan 2012 #18

Isn't there a big donut hole at 125K? How would this affect inflation? n/t Zalatix Jan 2012 #12

How so, you simply start paying once you cross the 125K threshold. BrentWil Jan 2012 #21

Yeah here's my response. Bullshit. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #14

are we just no longer having any civil discourse on DU? mike_c Jan 2012 #19

I agree. Nothing wins an argument like saying bullshit... NT BrentWil Jan 2012 #31

No thanks. I paid into Social Security, and I don't want a tax credit. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #22

It wouldn't be a tax credit BrentWil Jan 2012 #27

Another way to look at it is as a guaranteed income. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #30

I've been making a similar argument for 30+ years. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #24

Much easier to simply give the money... BrentWil Jan 2012 #28

Unfortunately, people are too tied to the competition thing without thinking it through... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #32

Well, this doesn't do away with the competition.. BrentWil Jan 2012 #33

It does away with the worst part of capitalism competition. Hunger, homelessness... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #40

It helps.. BrentWil Jan 2012 #53

Who know how much mental illness is a result of a failure to thrive Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #54

That is unknowable.. but mental illness is something that should be handled by a society.. BrentWil Jan 2012 #55

No thanks MFrohike Jan 2012 #36

I am arguing for greater "unemployment or social security benefits" for all BrentWil Jan 2012 #37

If you think so MFrohike Jan 2012 #42

I like the basic concept, but of course the devil is in the details. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #38

I don't understand the logic BrentWil Jan 2012 #39

If the low wage employee made more money, ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #43

No.. under 50K of income, 30K in benefits.. working or not working NT BrentWil Jan 2012 #45

Oh, I misunderstood the plan. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #46

My take quakerboy Jan 2012 #41

I hate to go all Republican on you.. BrentWil Jan 2012 #44

Then you dont get quakerboy Jan 2012 #47

Let me rephrase... BrentWil Jan 2012 #48

They already are pretty near meaningless quakerboy Jan 2012 #49

There is no system human's won't decry BrentWil Jan 2012 #50

Thats true. quakerboy Jan 2012 #51

Thats the other benefit of my plan.. BrentWil Jan 2012 #52

Neither plan has a shot quakerboy Jan 2012 #56