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In reply to the discussion: Pres Obama: David, in pursuit of strengthening SS, I'm willing to cut SS benefits [View all]bama_blue_dot
(224 posts)22. He isn't offering anything without wanting the tax cuts to expire
for the top 2%.. Of course they would accept it for absolutely nothing, but he knows they are so stuck in their position of no tax increases, that they wouldn't entertain the idea.. Look at the whole "Plan B" debacle.. If the 1 million threshold wouldn't pass the house, it proves that they don't care what is in the offer.. Plus, it doesn't matter now, because that old offer is off the table, and the President is back to the original middle class tax cuts bill, and nothing else in return.. They had their chance to show they could compromise, but they didn't..
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Pres Obama: David, in pursuit of strengthening SS, I'm willing to cut SS benefits [View all]
Oilwellian
Dec 2012
OP
What? You mean we arent allowed to even discuss changes that might actually benefit
cstanleytech
Dec 2012
#76
The argument on DU IMHO was that there was no talk of a CPI. The President never said it.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#92
If your income exceeds a certain amount, you pay extra taxes. That is why we have the
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#90
Oh you wont get any disagreement from me at all over the need to cut military spending.
cstanleytech
Dec 2012
#109
It never got to that point because those dealing with reality were spending all their time
cui bono
Dec 2012
#204
SS has zero to do with the Deficit. The right answer to that moron, 'David' from
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#118
If only he would. But it is telling that he did not. What he did do was break the ice. As another
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#235
The program is there to help the needy. If it helps them less, it isn't strengthened.
cui bono
Dec 2012
#203
This is a GREAT READ. Highly recommended. Gets right to the point, and kicks ass.
leveymg
Dec 2012
#228
Goes to prove that every now and then even the truth leaks through the corporate media. ;-)
leveymg
Dec 2012
#231
Indicates the policy choice made by Obama to reduce outlays instead of raising the cap.
leveymg
Dec 2012
#226
Now hold on just a sec. He still hasnt said he will "cut Social Security benefits." What he did say,
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#144
You know, you added too much of an explanation that actually attempted to rationalize that statement
cui bono
Dec 2012
#206
I don't know how you could have missed the MTP interview as it was replayed over and over again
Cleita
Dec 2012
#241
You're counting on the Senate? The Senate that wouldn't give Obama a Public Option when he asked?
Tom Rinaldo
Dec 2012
#35
Yes, it's too bad. If CPI is dead then there was no need for our President
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#43
"No, no, no." The GOP has been saying that since Obama was elected. Everybody knows that.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#66
I agree, bama blue dot. Although I think we're def. in the minority here. nt
AnnieK401
Dec 2012
#212
There's something magically litmus-testy about the way inflation is currently calculated? (nt)
Recursion
Dec 2012
#15
He has to publicly state that he was willing to put everything on the table.
bama_blue_dot
Dec 2012
#10
I don't care about his clever chess tactics. He offered to make elderly people suffer.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#99
No, he has tto STFU about touching SS, but unfortunately it's already too late.
cui bono
Dec 2012
#209
By saying that he's given Republicans the ability to go on Fox and say see we were right he wants to
Arcanetrance
Dec 2012
#25
Oh but they can they have the mouthpieces in place all anyone will hear is see Obama put it there
Arcanetrance
Dec 2012
#36
I predict a surge in Tea Party membership. Forget about getting any gains in 2014
bahrbearian
Dec 2012
#48
Forget Hillary. She and Bill Clinton are more conservative and anti-Social Security than even
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#103
We already knew that when we voted for him. It always was a lesser of 2 evils vote.
limpyhobbler
Dec 2012
#40
Is he still the lesser of two evils if he allows cuts to 'entitlements'?
SammyWinstonJack
Dec 2012
#133
I don't know about other people. I've always been a Democrat, but there are other alternatives
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#107
Yes. The Party has worked to undermine very progressive candidates in the past.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#154
yeah I read that and totally agree there are a lot of problems with the primary process
limpyhobbler
Dec 2012
#246
Any high incomers in danger of starving or not paying their heating bills during their retirements?
Bozita
Dec 2012
#193
I guess everyone here understands that the President can only express his personal opinions....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#62
Are you saying the Senate will allow such legislation to hit the President's desk? nt.
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#165
What Senate Dems say "on the record" is very different from what they do when....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#194
Killing old people, veterans, kids won't strengthen. It's cowardly policy. No big ideas -
jtuck004
Dec 2012
#72
If she is, I seriously doubt she depends on it fully, as a means of support.
SammyWinstonJack
Dec 2012
#140
The paychecks that are $50, $100, $200 less for the same work are the paychecks that
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#155
"The people who should be called upon to sacrifice are those who have gained"
jtuck004
Dec 2012
#170
Senate "fiscal cliff" negotiations hit major setback over GOP demands that it include chained-CPI
ProSense
Dec 2012
#79
not true -- the talks stalled b/c Dems wanted the debt ceiling raised, IN EXCHANGE for SS cuts
nashville_brook
Dec 2012
#100
It should NEVER have been mentioned in the first place . . . that only complicates the negotiations
DrDan
Dec 2012
#101
Dear President Obama, YOU'RE NOT CHARGING THE RICH ENOUGH for ANY changes in SS or Medicare.
patrice
Dec 2012
#91
Oh, that's OK. It's just posturing and if the Repubs accept his offer he'll veto it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#98
I'm fine with this, IF it gets the people on board with a permanent tax hike on the rich.
BanTheGOP
Dec 2012
#108
So much for "People are crazy/disloyal for thinking Obama will offer cuts (again)!"
DirkGently
Dec 2012
#114
The thing that amazes me is how many on this site are going on about oh it won't pass the Senate and
Arcanetrance
Dec 2012
#119
you couldn't even poost your thread title without manipulating Obama's words
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#150
it actually doesn't affect existing benefits. its a change in the rate of growth.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#163
The title does not match or even paraphrase what the man said. And if you read the entire
Tutonic
Dec 2012
#182
Our politicians, including Obama, answer to those who bought them! We allow bribery and extortion
Dustlawyer
Dec 2012
#237