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1. The premise of the argument, "If we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" is accurate ...

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:03 AM

Dec 2012

Of course criminals who illegally own firearms will not turn them in.

Honest citizens will turn in their weapons but currently honest citizens who do not turn in their firearms will become criminals.

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If we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. "The problem with this talking point is that it [View all] farminator3000 Dec 2012 OP

The premise of the argument, "If we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" is accurate ... spin Dec 2012 #1

look at post #22, the part after hello farminator3000 Dec 2012 #38

You are.. sendero Dec 2012 #40

absolutely right. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #41

Many posters here on DU have suggested banning all guns in recent days. ... spin Dec 2012 #44

but the government isn't saying that, and they make the laws, so... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #45

I actually do agree with you. ... spin Dec 2012 #48

cool farminator3000 Dec 2012 #49

The "feds" probably already know that I own firearms as I have a concealed weapons permit ... spin Dec 2012 #53

you can trust them more than the local sheriff (unless you are sidney poitier!) (movie joke) farminator3000 Jan 2013 #55

explain the logic, there einstein farminator3000 Dec 2012 #50

I would point out two things. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #2

Adding DC into that equation will make it fall apart. DCKit Dec 2012 #3

no it won't farminator3000 Dec 2012 #24

hello farminator3000 Dec 2012 #22

"Patent Nonsense"..LOL pipoman Dec 2012 #4

Anyone... Oasis_ Dec 2012 #5

If you are talking about some sort of Federal registration pipoman Dec 2012 #7

we are saying there is GOING TO BE fed. registration, deal with it! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #9

good luck with that.. pipoman Dec 2012 #10

thanks, won't need it! there ARE some GOOD politicians... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #12

Are we both talking about the US? pipoman Dec 2012 #15

i am, you are on some other planet, apparently... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #19

"in the coarse"..LOL TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #6

keep reading farminator3000 Dec 2012 #8

.. pipoman Dec 2012 #14

too bad you wasted your 30 seconds pasting all that crap about a poached quote farminator3000 Dec 2012 #18

The reason none of your ideas will ever work pipoman Dec 2012 #27

your only idea is more guns and it sucks farminator3000 Dec 2012 #29

Gallop has the stats.. pipoman Dec 2012 #36

what stats am i supposed to look at there? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #37

Response to your post 29 pipoman Dec 2012 #42

did you miss #37? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #43

read this maybe it is called facts farminator3000 Dec 2012 #39

or online, where there are few if any background checks required shadowrider Dec 2012 #11

google 'craigslist' and 'ak-47' farminator3000 Dec 2012 #13

Nobody denies that private sales within the same state pipoman Dec 2012 #16

go away you have no chance this took me 30 seconds farminator3000 Dec 2012 #20

Exactly pipoman Dec 2012 #25

exactly my ass! 40-50% of guns are sold illegally. deal with it farminator3000 Dec 2012 #26

Your reading comprehension skills are woefully lacking pipoman Dec 2012 #28

"Private sales in most states are completely legal transactions without a NICS check." farminator3000 Dec 2012 #31

And what's your solution...I posted a link to mine.. pipoman Dec 2012 #35

i'm not a senator... farminator3000 Dec 2012 #46

LOL pipoman Jan 2013 #54

That's a goalpost move. You didn't specify IN STATE or private sales. shadowrider Dec 2012 #17

see #20 above farminator3000 Dec 2012 #21

Guns cannot be banned until the borders are sealed. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #23

And until there is a constitutional amendment.. pipoman Dec 2012 #30

there is farminator3000 Dec 2012 #32

I simply am not getting your point.. pipoman Dec 2012 #34

how is selling guns illegally protected by the constitution??? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #47

Have you written a post describing illegal Jenoch Dec 2012 #51

here's one. i didn't write it. i am a farmer. but i worry about it. my bolds. farminator3000 Dec 2012 #52

If the gun laws were enforced, it would still be more difficult treestar Dec 2012 #33