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94. Sure --but you are minimizing the extreme danger to women

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:18 PM

Dec 2012

--the level of domestic violence against women (& children) is much much higher than the reverse.

Yes, women stalk men, but usually just for their money. Not nearly as great a danger.

Men stalking men--yes that could result in men "feeling foolish to ask for help." Men who are stalked are usually holding some power over the stalker, like in a job situation. Usually men whoa re stalked have more resources and access to legal help. Of course it should be treated as just as important as women being stalked. Until women are better protected, things won't change.

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Slain woman predicted her own death [View all] n2doc Dec 2012 OP

That's terrible, DV is not taken seriously. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #1

Short of keeping the abuser in jail, what did you expect the judge or police to do? TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #6

uh... keep him in jail PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #7

I asked you what you think the victim should do if they don't keep the abuser in jail..... TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #12

Yes, it was an option, FOR GOD'S SAKE. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #14

You're a Lena Dunham fan, aren't you? malz Dec 2012 #26

Who the phuck is Lena Dunham? TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #41

Why the fuck would keeping him in jail not be an option? EOTE Dec 2012 #27

They never should have cut the plea deal that allowed him to spend most of his pnwmom Dec 2012 #28

He didn't even serve 7 months. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #29

BUT they didn't keep him in jail, did they? So she needed to take steps to DEFEND herself...... TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #42

Wrong, wrong, wrong lapislzi Dec 2012 #80

"The onus should not be on me to defend myself. That's the law's job." TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #82

BULLSHIT! Warpy Dec 2012 #89

i think some want to blame the victim arely staircase Dec 2012 #47

or the psycho himself. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #48

I don't think any is blaming the victim, but if one begs the judge to keep their abuser locked up... TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #53

i see your point eom arely staircase Dec 2012 #54

Yeah, Actually, You ARE Blaming The Victim. (nt) Paladin Dec 2012 #60

No, actually, I'm NOT blaming the victim. (nt) TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #66

you are blaming the victim PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #73

you are blaming the victim PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #65

No, really I'm not blaming the victim. I'm blaming you! TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #74

I hope nobody alerts on this and it stands. It's clear who is unhinged and completely 'hysterical'. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #78

Yes, Nikki. You've made it quite clear just who it is that needs a nap! TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #90

How fucking disgusting. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #105

And how do you know this woman didn't take steps to defend herself? DapperDon Dec 2012 #77

What I don't get lark Dec 2012 #97

It is what it is! This guy was loose and there was nothing to deter him TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #102

You've been blaming the victim this entire thread. Wind Dancer Dec 2012 #107

Actually, that ISN'T what you asked. tledford Dec 2012 #46

To win your argument, you lied about what you just said. Madrona Jan 2013 #111

Why did you not call DebbieDee on admonishing you for your accurate response to her question? Madrona Jan 2013 #112

Keep him in jail. LWolf Dec 2012 #38

Abusers have been allowed to stalk and murder their victims for centuries, on this continent TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #43

fuck abusive men. and fuck people who alert quoting Leviticus. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #44

Really Nikki, you should cut back on the caffeine! TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #56

:* PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #57

I alerted on your post because you are an insensitive gun promoting rwer lark Dec 2012 #98

The jury already let that stand. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #100

Says you. And I am not promoting guns. I'm promoting that victims of DV TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #103

Let's assume he can't be kept in jail--how about parole with an ankle bracelet? MADem Dec 2012 #101

Jeez...this article has me speechless Taverner Dec 2012 #99

Sadly, this kind of thing is all too common. SheilaT Dec 2012 #2

She BEGGED the court for help. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #3

Protective orders protect the victim from prosecution if he or she has to kill the abuser......... TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #4

Jesus Christ, go away with the "MORE GUNS!!11!!" bullshit. That not even what this thread or I were PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #5

I was juror number 4 hrmjustin Dec 2012 #8

Are you fucking KIDDING me!? PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #9

No. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #10

The Flowers are very Delicate bongbong Dec 2012 #36

You're not very professional.......this is the first time I've ever seen a juror post TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #59

I though she would get a kick out of it. If you read her post in Meta it looks like she did. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #62

Wow! I've been here for almost 10 years and I never knew that forum existed! TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #64

There is a lot you do not know, obviously. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #106

Your not very nice... MrMickeysMom Dec 2012 #93

You're very petty...... TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #95

Good for you, then... MrMickeysMom Dec 2012 #110

... Kali Dec 2012 #70

lol PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #71

It's a miracle.......you're healed! Imagine that. TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #75

Wow, just wow! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #72

But the poster was seriously pointing out the limitations of the law in DV situations. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #11

I took it the same way. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #16

BULLSHIT. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #19

She is right Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #15

I totally disagree. Blame the perpetrator for his crime, the law for not protecting her, but don't PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #18

No one is talking about blame. The discussion is about preventing the crime. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #20

BS. The man in the OP was convicted of many crimes and should have been in jail. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #21

I put that as an exception in my prior post.... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #22

I see how you think this is another fucking 'MORE GUNS' thread, but I still call bullshit. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #23

Okay, you're getting obsessed with guns. This isn't a gun thread, except for your posts. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #24

Uh, no... read again. I am not the one who brought it up in this thread. In fact, I asked it NOT be. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #25

Apparently, you stopped reading at Bushmaster! I also mentioned taser or other disabling weapon! TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #49

humor? HUMOR?! Are you fucking kidding? PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #51

Are you having a STROKE Nikki? Should I call 9-11 and send them to your mother's basement? TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #61

:* PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #63

"you're a sick fuck."???? DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #67

if you or she find humor there, absolutely. 100% sick fuck PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #68

Oh Nikki, if only you'd completed the sixth grade reading course...... TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #79

I may have been 'rude', but you're now on a 'personal attack' rampage. And you're armed!?! PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #81

Personal attacks? I'm just replying to your replies to my replies......... TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #85

Your firearms and any children in your care should be forcibly removed. You're snapping. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #86

Nikki, come back! Was it something I said??????? TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #88

What a couple of loons you BOTH are. n/t kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #108

No, the solution... tledford Dec 2012 #52

His sentence was for 5 years, most of which was on probation. pnwmom Dec 2012 #30

I did not mention a gun. Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #34

This subthread started when you replied "She is right" to this (original edit): PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #35

I suspect, Nikki, that you live in a state of constant confusion. TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #83

I may have been 'rude', but you're now on a 'personal attack' rampage. And you're armed!?! PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #84

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #87

Their replies to you show what is wrong in America when it comes to guns. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #104

You're blaming the dead as part of your all-guns-all-the-time sales pitch DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #40

sick shit, huh? PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #45

+1000 abelenkpe Dec 2012 #92

Uggh! So upsetting and disgusting ecstatic Dec 2012 #13

If I was stalked by a violent person, Are_grits_groceries Dec 2012 #17

"The vapors"? Your testosterone is showing. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #31

Sad that women have to think like this-- marions ghost Dec 2012 #32

Here's the thing - Women aren't the only people that get stalked. TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #69

Sure --but you are minimizing the extreme danger to women marions ghost Dec 2012 #94

I'm not minimizing the danger to women - I'm elevating the issues of men that are stalked! TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #96

And in many states they're taking women's rights away lunatica Dec 2012 #33

First off, how was his original charge NOT attempted murder? glowing Dec 2012 #37

I agree. and thank you. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #39

Our justice system is reactionary, not proactive davidn3600 Dec 2012 #50

Disgusting. BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #55

TROs zabet Dec 2012 #58

Nothing constructive to add here RFKHumphreyObama Dec 2012 #76

I hope we could find out her maiden name and use it instead. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2012 #91

OK I am confused. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #109