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FreeState

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157. I was referring to her specific actions that day
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:32 PM
Dec 2012

not the long term plan. She was not chosen to take this action on that day, in fact several others had attempted to do what she did with no luck. She saw an opening and took the plan into action - her taking that action on that day had not been planned, hence my calling her actions spontaneous, though I should have clarified what she did had been a plan she was aware of, she took the opportunity.

http://www.adl.org/education/rosa_parks.asp

Though Rosa Parks became the focal point of the Montgomery Bus Boycott, the idea for a boycott was conceived at least six years before her arrest. In 1949, Jo Ann Gibson Robinson, an English professor and head of the Women’s Political Council (WPC), was ejected from a bus for refusing to move seats and resolved to do something about bus segregation. During the ensuing years, the WPC prepared to stage a bus boycott “when the time was ripe and the people were ready.” In the months prior to Parks’ arrest, at least three other African American people had been arrested for refusing to give up their bus seats to white people. When Rosa Parks was arrested, movement leaders made a strategic decision to launch the boycott because they felt Mrs. Parks had the respect and support of her community as well as the fortitude to withstand the racism and publicity that the boycott would generate.


Edit to add:

http://www.thehenryford.org/exhibits/rosaparks/story.asp
Her action was spontaneous and not pre-meditated, although her previous civil rights involvement and strong sense of justice were obvious influences. "When I made that decision," she said later, “I knew that I had the strength of my ancestors with me.”

She was arrested and convicted of violating the laws of segregation, known as “Jim Crow laws.” Mrs. Parks appealed her conviction and thus formally challenged the legality of segregation.
Why not Stonewall? MNBrewer Dec 2012 #1
Stonewall ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #5
The initial response was spontaneous, but it was what happened afterward that made the event importa OmahaBlueDog Dec 2012 #15
+1 bigtree Dec 2012 #24
Rosa Parks was actually part of the organization that planned the boycott lunatica Dec 2012 #47
Rosa Parks actions that day were spontaneous FreeState Dec 2012 #49
Yes. That's what I was trying to say lunatica Dec 2012 #51
They were not spontaneous, they were 20 years in the making: grantcart Dec 2012 #136
I was referring to her specific actions that day FreeState Dec 2012 #157
she was naacp secretary. they'd been looking for test cases for a bus boycott for some time HiPointDem Dec 2012 #98
I'm shocked by how man DUers in this thread do not know the Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #122
The way American history has been taught in this country lunatica Dec 2012 #130
Stonewall wasn't as spontaneous as people think either FreeState Dec 2012 #48
+1 eom arely staircase Dec 2012 #132
That's a bit of a stretch Yavin4 Dec 2012 #63
I don't think the people who participated in that "street action" were particularly "progressive," MADem Dec 2012 #83
My point exactly n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #112
I disagree FreeState Dec 2012 #115
Republicans were not racist pigs back then--MLK was a registered Republican. MADem Dec 2012 #129
So in effect your saying Progressives were not part of either party FreeState Dec 2012 #135
No, I am not saying that at all. I am saying that progressive values were not the impetus for the MADem Dec 2012 #141
100% correct -- good post bigtree Dec 2012 #2
From Bayard Rustin's 'From Montgomery To Stonewall'- just to add more from Rustin, for the OP Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #9
I wonder how Duers would feel today bigtree Dec 2012 #16
He also knew and spoke at length about the fact that activism toward legislative changes can Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #22
heh bigtree Dec 2012 #35
Social Security was incremental. It didn't initially provide universal coverage KittyWampus Dec 2012 #146
The Founding of Social security was NOT incremental at all. bvar22 Dec 2012 #150
Unbelievable. What I posted is factually correct yet you decide to try and argue. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #154
bears repeating for the deniers of the very important slights in that initial bill bigtree Dec 2012 #164
Unbelievable?... only to those who refuse to acknowlege it bvar22 Dec 2012 #175
then your opposition to the ACA health insurance act must follow the same logic bigtree Dec 2012 #176
If YOU can point out the Foundation Cornerstone of the ACA... bvar22 Dec 2012 #178
exactly bigtree Dec 2012 #179
You know, this is one thing that reminds me of the glacial progress of change tavalon Dec 2012 #165
I remember a president sending federal troops to integrate schools in the South Fumesucker Dec 2012 #3
You've seen it ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #6
Secessionists are trolls Fumesucker Dec 2012 #8
I'd think that would be because there isn't a complete breakdown in the justice system bigtree Dec 2012 #7
I was just giving an example of bold presidential action Fumesucker Dec 2012 #10
well, yeah bigtree Dec 2012 #12
True, the federal government is much more powerful now than it was then n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #14
So are we. i.e. the Internet. randome Dec 2012 #42
You're right, it would be much easier today to organize to fight forced integration Fumesucker Dec 2012 #52
that's more true than you pretend bigtree Dec 2012 #55
I grew up then and there, my perspective is a little different Fumesucker Dec 2012 #62
well, we can't pretend that every initiative and action by the federal government was beneficial bigtree Dec 2012 #67
No need to get so defensive, everything is fine Fumesucker Dec 2012 #75
I always have to remind myself bigtree Dec 2012 #76
I love you too Fumesucker Dec 2012 #90
To a certain extent, yes. Light is the most effective disinfectant we have. randome Dec 2012 #57
I see the disinfectant working the other way, I grew up in that time and place Fumesucker Dec 2012 #61
+1 HiPointDem Dec 2012 #100
What is the point you are trying to make about Stonewall? Do you know what happened that night? Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #4
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #26
What do you mean 'this was what I understood'? Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #32
I have done ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #40
You are typing incomprehensible responses. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #50
The point is well made Rex Dec 2012 #180
wow, dave van ronk was arrested there. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #104
Media acclimates us to think that only immediate, dramatic change is possible. randome Dec 2012 #11
I have posted a few links about Stonewall which I do not expect you to have courage to read Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #13
I read both articles linked ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #31
"they didn't do anything but organize others' vs 'it was not planned as the other actions were'. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #36
The involvement of ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #41
Well you are not being clear at all. Your OP did not even provide a link for context to the thread Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #58
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #64
You are the one who made Stonewall rhetorical football of your screed here today. Not me. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #156
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #160
A very iintelligent post. Thank you. ywcachieve Dec 2012 #17
I don't know why your thread was blocked. Really crazy. However... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2012 #18
It wasn't my thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #34
no Skittles Dec 2012 #89
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #95
Ah ok. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2012 #96
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #19
Your point would have a bit more impact if you could spell Progressive Fumesucker Dec 2012 #21
I know how to spell progressive, and jackass, too. ywcachieve Dec 2012 #25
Don't forget teabagger Fumesucker Dec 2012 #27
Your edit history begs to differ. Javaman Dec 2012 #44
they do not have the same mentality samsingh Dec 2012 #53
It's not so much ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #68
when do the progressives demonstrate rank hyprocrasy samsingh Dec 2012 #72
I don't know if I wish to engage this discussion; but .. 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #79
okay let's compromise and move on samsingh Dec 2012 #81
Alright. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #82
Of course not, you'd rather flame all the Progressives that make up the majority of the board MessiahRp Dec 2012 #134
Should I stop reading at the first, second or third inaccuracy? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #145
Thank you! Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #169
I consider ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #173
Peddle that malarkey about progressives elsewhere. n/t GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #54
sounds like a bunch of excuses hfojvt Dec 2012 #20
Amen! Thank you! Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #23
Hear! Hear! meegbear Dec 2012 #28
People protested injustice back then b/c they had unbiased reporting that told them about it! Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #29
meh, this probably should be posted in meta quinnox Dec 2012 #30
For what reason? janx Dec 2012 #38
+1 treestar Dec 2012 #33
Beautifully stated. n/t janx Dec 2012 #37
How long did it take to institute Social Security & Medicare? leftstreet Dec 2012 #39
FDR was bold and progressive, but he left a lot of people out in the cold on Social Security bigtree Dec 2012 #46
Thanks for your post. I think some tend to over romanticize the fights of the past. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #60
Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #66
oh there's been incremental change alright in the other direction liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #101
Much to your chagrin, I'm sure, we're not Europe. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #106
I'm not talking about Europe liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #107
!!! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #113
Approximately ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #56
Obama, is that you? leftstreet Dec 2012 #65
You are quite right ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #70
Everything you wrote was on the money and substantiated pretty well. Why was the origional locked? marble falls Dec 2012 #43
Incremental steps lead to the big splashy finale lunatica Dec 2012 #45
Yeak, like starting with a chained CPI leftstreet Dec 2012 #69
Give it a rest ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #71
"Exempts the elderly, the poor, the disabled, and veterans" brentspeak Dec 2012 #85
LOL leftstreet Dec 2012 #91
I don't know how ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #126
Laugh all you wish; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #94
We forget it because it leaves the rest of us out. It is not a valid argument for chained cpi. madfloridian Dec 2012 #102
Do you not agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #108
I agree with nothing you said. madfloridian Dec 2012 #116
So you don't "agree" ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #119
Exempting a few means that harm definitely will be done to others. madfloridian Dec 2012 #128
How am I playing word games and twisting replies? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #140
Congrats on winning Dumb Post of the Week n/t brentspeak Dec 2012 #133
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #143
The way I read that .... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #153
yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #158
No, Carney does NOT say Obama included exemptions in his proposal. He says he "WOULD" include them.. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #170
Come on ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #174
What an optimist! lunatica Dec 2012 #73
what's wrong with bold, visionary progressives? noiretextatique Dec 2012 #59
Not a thing ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #78
i disagree, actually noiretextatique Dec 2012 #92
So ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #97
Excellent post malaise Dec 2012 #74
Are you, were you, trying to say LWolf Dec 2012 #77
I'm pointing out the unfortunate political reality ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #80
We sure as hell can LWolf Dec 2012 #84
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #93
Sorry. LWolf Dec 2012 #99
thank you! liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #114
You are welcome. LWolf Dec 2012 #127
Since that's your reply to my reply to the original post that you're quoting there, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #86
you know it, Blue_in_AK Skittles Dec 2012 #88
And I join with you. Lockstep is unhealthy for any party. madfloridian Dec 2012 #103
Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #111
But at a terrible cost. madfloridian Dec 2012 #117
exactly. liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #120
Only if you disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #121
I have no problem with ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #105
The reality is that President Obama is a centrist, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #118
Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #124
As for moving the ball in the right direction, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #125
I stand with you liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #109
DEMOCRACY Skittles Dec 2012 #87
thanks, man farminator3000 Dec 2012 #110
One of the greatest threads of all year!!!! K&R, bookmarked! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #123
On Election Day You Criticized Me For Being White (In An Offensive Way) JimGinPA Dec 2012 #131
He wasn't criticizing you Jim he was making a humorous comment on the poll worker grantcart Dec 2012 #137
Are you kidding me????? 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #138
If you choose to insult one's intelligence... JimGinPA Dec 2012 #144
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #147
I've Known Grantcart For Years... JimGinPA Dec 2012 #152
With all due respect ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #155
I found this recently on a CNN blog about Rosa Parks history grantcart Dec 2012 #139
Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #148
The only steps we have been taking since the 1980's mmonk Dec 2012 #142
Okay, I understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #149
Not that one due to its deliberate inaccuracies. mmonk Dec 2012 #167
And until ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #172
I've learned that every kind of progress in politics usually babylonsister Dec 2012 #151
It seems like there is not a clear division between "holding feet to the fire" and... Taverner Dec 2012 #159
I agree with a lot of what you wrote; but, would point out ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #161
Makes sense to me... Taverner Dec 2012 #162
An executive order without funding to effectuate it is ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #163
Perfect thread. Your knowledge and sound grasp of the facts is exactly what I've come to expect Number23 Dec 2012 #166
Great post, and in some of your responses you speak well what Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #168
My view of what has been pivotal in the civil rights movements... MrMickeysMom Dec 2012 #171
Correct, change comes from the people, the government does not willingly reform itself. bemildred Dec 2012 #177
Seneca Falls and Selma and Stonewall Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #181
So did I; but maybe ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #182
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