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Telly Savalas

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14. Err...I wouldn't call 50.4% of the vote a "mandate"

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 10:00 PM

Dec 2012

But yeah, it's pretty jacked up that the composition of the House deviates as far as it does from the will of the people.

And I second your thanks to the OP for creating this thread. This was the first I'd heard of this.

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The real stolen election - Democrats just won the House by 1.2 million votes (2012) [View all] banned from Kos Dec 2012 OP

Which speaks volumes to the Democratic Mandate from that election. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #1

Err...I wouldn't call 50.4% of the vote a "mandate" Telly Savalas Dec 2012 #14

I would, considering the Dems won the Presidency, 2 more Senate seats, and even the House. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #20

I'd call it "cautious approval." caseymoz Dec 2012 #58

I call it... Stellar Jan 2013 #67

Have there been cases against gerrymandering brought on constitutional grounds? pnwmom Dec 2012 #2

Yes, several. Jim Lane Dec 2012 #11

Thanks, Jim. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #25

You mentioned the Voting Rights Act. It appears the SCOTUS will dismantle it this year. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #35

I wish Democrats would have voted more in 2010 AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #3

Dems did vote Doctor_J Dec 2012 #5

wrong krawhitham Dec 2012 #43

I didn't say that more people voted Dem Doctor_J Dec 2012 #45

Thank you. The numbers don't lie. The very Dem youth vote in particular fell off in 2010. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #65

Should have taken care of the SCOTUS problem after Theft 2000 Doctor_J Dec 2012 #4

Apathy is one of our biggest challenges. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #36

Agreed. Learned helplessness is another. nt stillwaiting Dec 2012 #37

Yes, that describes it better. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #39

One of these days Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #63

Hear, hear. iemitsu Jan 2013 #66

Thanks, but aren't we still at a disvantage until 2020? freshwest Dec 2012 #6

I understand your point about 2020, however louis c Dec 2012 #10

You want Hillary to run when she's going on 70 years old? freshwest Dec 2012 #16

You mean "ideological impurity" -- right? pnwmom Dec 2012 #26

Perhaps the subjects of the sentence was unclear - 'unproductive, ideological purity' are not what freshwest Dec 2012 #27

Yes, I misunderstood. pnwmom Dec 2012 #31

Wishing Democrats had voted more in 2010 doesn't change the fact that gerrymandering is Cleita Dec 2012 #7

and yet the "talking heads" will go on and on about the fact we had a split election Botany Dec 2012 #8

Worse still, gerrymandered, secure, wing-nut district Reps have no reason to compromise Coyotl Dec 2012 #9

This! Up here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ banned from Kos Dec 2012 #12

okay, here is one example from 2008 hfojvt Dec 2012 #13

One other possibility JVS Dec 2012 #15

Or RobertEarl Dec 2012 #18

The reason is because Mitt Romney was such a bad choice, no one was left to vote for except Obama. RC Dec 2012 #23

k&r n/t RainDog Dec 2012 #17

Gerrymandering has been going on in California for years much to the advantage of Playinghardball Dec 2012 #19

That just underlines the point stopwastingmymoney Dec 2012 #44

This is a good example of elections having consequences. The GOP was able to gerrymander so many totodeinhere Dec 2012 #21

Our system is seriously flawed The Wizard Dec 2012 #22

No Shit! Sam1 Dec 2012 #38

The big scary push Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #24

your numbers may be accurate...but... codemoguy Dec 2012 #28

I would agree if donations and support from outside of the district were prohibited. Sam1 Dec 2012 #40

The billionaires don't need to rig national elections, just local ones. Initech Dec 2012 #29

I don't mean to throw a wrench into your theory Jenoch Dec 2012 #30

How do you sue to "correct" gerrymandering? no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #32

If you could show that the gerrymandering violated the Voting Rights Act totodeinhere Dec 2012 #33

True. And why the GOP in states affected by the Voting Rights Act keep trying to repeal it. freshwest Dec 2012 #34

K & R Scurrilous Dec 2012 #41

Republicans getting statehouses and governorships treestar Dec 2012 #42

BS, teestar RobertEarl Dec 2012 #46

In accurate vote count and suppression of voters where? treestar Dec 2012 #47

And you, teestar? RobertEarl Dec 2012 #49

we need to take over some state legislatures and fix this arely staircase Dec 2012 #48

We need to abolish gerrymandering and require term limits!!! Rex Dec 2012 #50

In Minnesota, the political parties Jenoch Dec 2012 #51

There are enough people in this country who are bought & will do anything for $$$$ & a hint of power judesedit Dec 2012 #52

What makes gerrymandering unconstitutional? n/t jreal Dec 2012 #53

That's what happens when you stay home during the midterms. budkin Dec 2012 #54

Republicans have a natural advantage buzzroller Dec 2012 #55

the supreme court? heaven05 Dec 2012 #56

where is trump's outrage on this stolen aspect of the election? samsingh Dec 2012 #57

How it works.... grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #59

Not THAT I think the real story of November in 2012. nt cecilfirefox Dec 2012 #60

kick samsingh Dec 2012 #61

And it will keep happening - many here support gerrymandering. harmonicon Dec 2012 #62

Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2012 #64