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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
49. Pick a lane
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:18 PM
Dec 2012

Either gun crime related stats are wrong, or we have actually seen a decrease in crime rates.

You can't have it both ways. So are the FBI statistics wrong, or not?

And tell you what...I think the FBI stats are correct.

You want to pack, go for it...I don't give two shits about it, but increasing crime is not the reason for t.

None is coming to take your gun away nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #1
depends on what that civilian has to protect datasuspect Dec 2012 #3
If you need a gun that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #4
some places in the US are like combat zones datasuspect Dec 2012 #5
So the civil war already started? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7
not saying that datasuspect Dec 2012 #14
So should ask the boss for the body armor under the tree nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #17
eh, you're just being a wiseass datasuspect Dec 2012 #20
I am being realistic nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #23
are you an Oath Keeper? riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #59
no, i'm an epithet hurler datasuspect Dec 2012 #64
THis? riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #68
bless your heart datasuspect Dec 2012 #70
I was thinking the exact same thing about you CatWoman Dec 2012 #194
Move to NYC - gun violence at all time low jpak Dec 2012 #29
y'all can have it datasuspect Dec 2012 #32
LOL, people from all countries and socio economic circumstances live within 30 minutes bettyellen Dec 2012 #53
it's yo thang datasuspect Dec 2012 #57
Your hood is showing. n/t ieoeja Dec 2012 #97
don't talk about my vagina datasuspect Dec 2012 #102
what does that mean? one_voice Jan 2013 #293
I hear a faint dog-whistle in that individual's posts. ieoeja Jan 2013 #312
i smell dogshit in your assessment datasuspect Jan 2013 #326
bull fucking shit.. frylock Dec 2012 #188
naif. datasuspect Jan 2013 #243
and your hyperbole is fucking bullshit.. frylock Jan 2013 #247
bless your heart datasuspect Jan 2013 #271
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #291
sounds like someone needs a nap and a bankie datasuspect Jan 2013 #325
Sounds like someone needs a reality check. Atman Jan 2013 #327
sounds like someone needs to look at who they are responding to datasuspect Jan 2013 #328
sounds like someone needs to fuck off frylock Jan 2013 #329
do you kiss your mother with that mouth? datasuspect Jan 2013 #330
Did you shoot your mother with that gun? Atman Jan 2013 #333
The words you used in your post make you sound as if you might be a paranoid loon. Atman Jan 2013 #334
it sounds like you and your sock puppet are confusing each other datasuspect Jan 2013 #336
Yes, data...after 10 years here and more the 25k posts, you nailed me... Atman Jan 2013 #338
or figure out what you're responding to datasuspect Jan 2013 #340
ALERT! ALERT! Atman Jan 2013 #342
did you get dropped on your head as a child? datasuspect Jan 2013 #343
the words you are using in your posts make you sound like a moron datasuspect Jan 2013 #337
Read Meta forum for some context... Atman Jan 2013 #339
And where in America would those places be... AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #226
So, we're NOT talking about the AR-15 then? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #152
Since when is a semi-automatic Bushmaster XM-15 or Carbon 15 used in combat zones? S_B_Jackson Dec 2012 #221
They are nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #264
They are not. Straw Man Jan 2013 #266
They'll take whatever they can get nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #267
So not the "preferred weapon," then? Straw Man Jan 2013 #268
I guess i imagined the AR-15s nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #269
Please be specific. Straw Man Jan 2013 #295
Ok since you have a problem believing this nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #298
I have no problem believing any direct evidence. Straw Man Jan 2013 #301
Who said they were fully auto military versions? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #302
I said we can't tell. Straw Man Jan 2013 #306
Well, one argument from the NRA nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #307
I'm very disappointed ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #309
Your handle fits you well nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #310
I thought you were done already. Straw Man Jan 2013 #313
Yes nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #315
Thank you for the information. Straw Man Jan 2013 #318
Private market nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #320
Thank you for the links. Straw Man Jan 2013 #321
70% from straw purchases is not government stock nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #323
You should back off zappaman Jan 2013 #316
I'm not clairvoyant. How do I know if I am not told? Straw Man Jan 2013 #317
It's okay zappaman Jan 2013 #322
So WalMart is in the Black Market Weapons Trade now? Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #331
Is Walmart not running NICS background checks? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #332
Our own military doesn't even use full auto on their AR's anymore. Erose999 Jan 2013 #292
They use "burst-fire." Straw Man Jan 2013 #297
This message was self-deleted by its author Straw Man Jan 2013 #261
I have neither the desire nor the funds to buy a .223 assault rifle Bake Dec 2012 #15
Many here are just as fringe nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #21
Unlike gun nut, gun worshipper, small-penis, and the other terms Bake Dec 2012 #44
Once again nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #56
Well, Grayson is on here, right? Recursion Dec 2012 #228
You forgot "delicate flower" zappaman Dec 2012 #69
Most recently, here on DU, I was called a "gun nut cretin." Bake Dec 2012 #73
"gun nut cretin" zappaman Dec 2012 #78
I own guns and I have never been called that here AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #233
You've begged for the name calling to stop? Yet you continue to name call! DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #75
I don't disagree with ANY of your enumerated points Bake Dec 2012 #83
I never said I was offended, I simply asked for solutions rather than name calling. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #118
We do often rationalize and predicate our own behavior by blaming others for the same thing LanternWaste Dec 2012 #125
Nice try, it most certainly is hypocrisy, in it's purest form. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #145
Smear & vilification are SOPs by controllers in the Gungeon. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #241
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #31
Neither is addressing them... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #39
Wait...You don't trust the police not to mess with you when law-abiding jmg257 Dec 2012 #54
I'm not a criminal. Bake Dec 2012 #60
Read it again...you would purposely become a criminal. jmg257 Dec 2012 #65
Castle doctrine nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #71
I understand Castle Doctrine pretty well. But what does that have to do with the OP jmg257 Dec 2012 #74
That's fantasy, the guns he has nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #80
Can anyone tell me what this reply is on about? zappaman Dec 2012 #82
I'm sorry, Nadin, I thought this was a discussion board. Bake Dec 2012 #87
Quite easy nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #88
then why do we have post after post here calling for gun bans? Bake Dec 2012 #171
None said you are not nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #176
Well - then I tend to think there is really no sense in coming up with (new) gun bans, if no one jmg257 Dec 2012 #90
Politics is the art of the possible nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #93
That would be nice... quakerboy Dec 2012 #157
I planted that seed nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #158
I dont think even then quakerboy Dec 2012 #162
Societies change nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #169
I suspect a lot will happen at the state level nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #258
See, people like jmg ... I don't trust. Bake Jan 2013 #253
Nobody is going to come get your pea shooter nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #256
I don't call a .357 magnum a "pea shooter" Bake Jan 2013 #270
It is lethal nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #272
Frankly, nadin, I couldn't agree more. Bake Jan 2013 #280
Hopefully it ends when 30,000 people every year stop dying jmg257 Jan 2013 #260
I'm neither fearful nor paranoid. Bake Jan 2013 #273
You are the one saying nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #275
And you just can't tell the truth. Bake Jan 2013 #278
I am telling you the truth nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #279
Yes, nadin, THEY ARE THE FRINGE. Not me. Bake Jan 2013 #281
The NRA is also fringe nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #282
I'm not now, nor have I ever been a member of the NRA. Bake Jan 2013 #284
You are repeating their talking points nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #286
SOME of the "talking points" may just be TRUE. Bake Jan 2013 #289
Which are true? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #290
You have YET to respond to my one simple assertion. Bake Jan 2013 #296
Ane you did not call the cops after that attempt nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #299
Nadin, nadin, nadin ... READ Bake Jan 2013 #303
No you can't win nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #304
Question for you: Are there Democratic talking points? Gun control talking points? Bake Jan 2013 #305
Have a good life Bake nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #308
Dude, how's the headache? zappaman Jan 2013 #311
You're conflating two issues. Bake Jan 2013 #283
You call 911 and stand guard nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #285
It's OK - really. A little Fear is a good thing. jmg257 Jan 2013 #288
Kentucky, by the way, is a castle-doctrine state. Bake Dec 2012 #77
So the term "law abiding gun owner" is completely lost on you? jmg257 Dec 2012 #81
Feel free to come get it Bake Dec 2012 #92
No thanks - you can keep it, if the cops find out, they can deal with you. jmg257 Dec 2012 #94
If the cops find out what? zappaman Dec 2012 #99
No - we are talking about the hypothetical "I will keep my illegal guns if they are banned" jmg257 Dec 2012 #103
You and your family seem to be a magnet of bad luck AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #63
I don't think our experience is all that unusual. Bake Dec 2012 #95
It's very unsual Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #234
"Depend on the police? Not on my life. Hell, I don't even trust the police not to fuck with.... Walk away Dec 2012 #147
To be fair quakerboy Dec 2012 #159
People living in fear tabasco Dec 2012 #227
Contrary to what you may think, I don't live in fear. Bake Jan 2013 #252
Sounds like you and your family are magnets for trouble Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #232
There are all kinds of posts Jenoch Dec 2012 #84
How many of these folks nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #86
The chances of a complete gun ban are exactly TWO: Bake Dec 2012 #89
And you did not succeed in that counterpoint. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #96
Actually, he did. zappaman Dec 2012 #101
Three points to your statements: reformed_military Dec 2012 #230
What you had in your hand already worked!!!! Bad example pal. rustydog Jan 2013 #265
"gun-grabbers". tosh Dec 2012 #2
Oh, break my fucking heart! Bake Dec 2012 #61
The use of the phrase "gun-grabbers" does away with any enough Dec 2012 #6
+1000 abelenkpe Dec 2012 #8
I'm simply responding to what I've seen in DU GD Bake Dec 2012 #16
And you are not paying attention to the names tossed around in DU Bake Dec 2012 #47
Use of the term 'gun nut' does the same. Jenoch Dec 2012 #91
Use of the phrases gun nuts and gun grabbers immediately shuts down discussion Marrah_G Dec 2012 #9
I didn't start the name-calling. Bake Dec 2012 #18
But you did start it in this thread Marrah_G Dec 2012 #25
+1000 darkangel218 Dec 2012 #45
+ 100,000,000 Berserker Dec 2012 #10
Here's what gun lovers should consider Major Nikon Dec 2012 #11
Frankly, I don't care if you're "convinced" or not. Bake Dec 2012 #24
Then why did you post your OP? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #43
Knight in shining armor? Are you serious???? Bake Dec 2012 #48
"Some people just cannot stop the name-calling." Major Nikon Dec 2012 #85
Go read any of Taverner's multiple OPs, Bake Dec 2012 #98
I read yours instead Major Nikon Dec 2012 #104
Nice try, but no cigar. Bake Dec 2012 #111
There's a subtle difference you missed Major Nikon Dec 2012 #130
"Pussies" was one. Bake Dec 2012 #136
I don't remember authoring that one Major Nikon Dec 2012 #143
Plenty of threads here saying exactly that. zappaman Dec 2012 #109
IF --as a gun advocate--you DON'T understand marions ghost Jan 2013 #259
Sure I understand it. Bake Jan 2013 #274
Just don't tell me I can't protect my family. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #189
What is so fucking special about a shotgun? MicaelS Dec 2012 #105
The rounds from a shotgun don't tend to go through walls and find toddlers Major Nikon Dec 2012 #122
Bullshit. MicaelS Dec 2012 #127
I call bullshit on your bullshit Major Nikon Dec 2012 #141
stunning how many experts we have that don't seem to know fuckall.. frylock Dec 2012 #206
Who said anything about buckshot? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #208
Hornady Critical Defense rounds are designed not to go through walls. Bake Dec 2012 #219
No-one is talking about banning all firearms. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #12
Well put jberryhill Dec 2012 #22
No one, my ass! Bake Dec 2012 #26
No-one sensible anyway Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #33
The pistols you mentioned and others that Jenoch Dec 2012 #100
Here's a thought abelenkpe Dec 2012 #13
Yes, DUers are talking about taking people's guns. Bake Dec 2012 #28
Ok, how many of these DU'ers nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #35
+1000 darkangel218 Dec 2012 #50
Once again nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #174
gun grabbers??? you didn't buy a machine gun, did you? spanone Dec 2012 #19
Nope. Bought a Smith & Wesson .357 magnum revolver. Bake Dec 2012 #217
Gee thanks metalbot Jan 2013 #248
Wow - what a full story - all the NRA talking points covered jpak Dec 2012 #27
Louisville's Finest weren't too worried about fingerprints Bake Dec 2012 #37
Dude, with each post laundry_queen Dec 2012 #42
That's pretty much it. laundry_queen Dec 2012 #41
I sat up that night with a steel microphone stand!! Bake Dec 2012 #58
Goody for you. See, you didn't need a gun. laundry_queen Dec 2012 #66
What do you do when the perp breaks into your house while DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #108
You might have been able to identify the perp if you had outside surveillance cameras.. Tikki Dec 2012 #30
They might have been a lot of help to identify the perpetrator after the fact Bake Dec 2012 #40
But he didn't get in your home and he may still be out there harassing others or he could be... Tikki Dec 2012 #55
Had it been my wife instead of ME pushing on the door, he'd have been IN. Bake Dec 2012 #120
You said you didn't have a gun yet.... Tikki Dec 2012 #185
Maybe they'll do that now, but they enjoyed a false sense of security ecstatic Jan 2013 #246
I'm shocked I tell you! sasha031 Dec 2012 #34
putting people in the ignore list sasha031 Dec 2012 #52
Until the anti gun nuts experience this sort of thing they will not understand or sypathize. L0oniX Dec 2012 #36
You know, if this was not so laughable nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #38
..and when it is your kid or wife who gets shot by a criminal and ends up there? L0oniX Dec 2012 #46
Pick a lane nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #49
Until violent crime is 0 and holding... appal_jack Dec 2012 #153
It has fr ten years nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #156
Repeal of the 2nd Amendment isn't necessary Major Nikon Dec 2012 #190
i have experienced this type of stuff JI7 Dec 2012 #163
As have I obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #166
did you feel the need to go out and buy a gun ? JI7 Dec 2012 #170
Yes, I did obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #173
This is the same demagoguery that the NRA preaches Major Nikon Dec 2012 #187
Maybe you also consider the 2nd amendment to be an NRA talking point as well. L0oniX Dec 2012 #199
The way they interpret it I do Major Nikon Dec 2012 #205
I'm sorry you were terrorized like that. geomon666 Dec 2012 #51
Many of us have been "terorized" and hurt, not just the OP. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #62
And none wants to take your gun away nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #67
Actually, plenty do. zappaman Dec 2012 #72
!! 97% dionysus Jan 2013 #263
Nadin, stop saying "no one wants to take your gun away." Bake Dec 2012 #107
"Tell the truth." zappaman Dec 2012 #114
I love how your response to the first one was hidden by a jury Bake Dec 2012 #124
The truth is that the people who want nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #115
put that in an OP Bake Dec 2012 #180
Not gonna happen. zappaman Dec 2012 #182
I have told this to others as well nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #183
Then be the voice of reason. Put it in an OP. Bake Dec 2012 #195
I have nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #196
Not true zappaman Dec 2012 #197
DUers? janx Dec 2012 #116
Funny, I thought DU was a DISCUSSION forum. Bake Dec 2012 #126
how many posters are calling for an outright ban on guns? frylock Dec 2012 #200
How about a tactical semi-auto shotgun? MicaelS Dec 2012 #110
I love this NRA tactic. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #113
And your response isn't addressing the OP at all zappaman Dec 2012 #117
Got it, because it's semi-automatic it's evil. MicaelS Dec 2012 #121
Did I say that? Nope nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #123
No one wants to take our guns away... better Jan 2013 #249
Brass to tacks nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #250
When I was 7 months pregnant I was held up at gunpoint cali Dec 2012 #76
yeah, so? zappaman Dec 2012 #79
so the op made it sound like getting a gun was the only choice. cali Dec 2012 #112
I didn't read that into the OP at all. zappaman Dec 2012 #119
I was a branch manager at an S&L that was robbed at gunpoint. Bake Dec 2012 #131
In all of this discussion you have not offered one single solution to the gun problem! DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #144
+1 nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #149
i have stated repeatedly that i would support several reasonable measures Bake Dec 2012 #186
Thank you, I would like to see people stay focussed on solutions. DrewFlorida Dec 2012 #198
everything you have posted is completely reasonable.. frylock Dec 2012 #203
I **have** offered reasonable solutions, repeatedly. Bake Dec 2012 #222
You have the worst luck. Bad shit just follows you around. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #207
And here's more bad luck Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #237
What the hell ever happened to alarm systems or a really big dog? Chorophyll Dec 2012 #106
That's your choice. Bake Dec 2012 #135
I'll tell you the truth: I live in an urban area. I have a lock on my door. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #139
Yep. laundry_queen Dec 2012 #148
Stuff like that happens all. The. Time. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #178
'Gun grabbers' is a fallacy, time to stop the madness. Rex Dec 2012 #128
See post #109 for a couple of examples zappaman Dec 2012 #133
Yes his pistol was one of my central points. Rex Dec 2012 #134
For home use against break-ins and robbery .... perhaps a Photo and a Sign and a night Light libdem4life Dec 2012 #129
I hope more was done than just purchasing a gun, benld74 Dec 2012 #132
Best is taking lessons imo. Rex Dec 2012 #138
I agree. Taking lessons is a must IMO zappaman Dec 2012 #140
Or work in law enforcement Rex Dec 2012 #146
I have lived all over the world and I have never once had an incident like that. Walk away Dec 2012 #137
Since it's never happened to you or anyone you know Bake Dec 2012 #216
I didn't say that I didn't believe you. I clearly said that if that had happened to me... Walk away Dec 2012 #223
people who say that are the people who have never done that. LanternWaste Dec 2012 #142
Sigh. Adding one more poster to my "ignore" list.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #150
I had a similar experience Jim Warren Dec 2012 #151
Excellent post...refuse to be a victim. ileus Dec 2012 #154
So, have you bought Turbineguy Dec 2012 #155
No one is talking about taking all guns nakocal Dec 2012 #160
You make good points Jim Warren Dec 2012 #165
Yes, they are obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #168
Point to me one DU'er nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #172
GOOOOAAAAALLLLpost moving there obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #175
That is the poster's specialty. zappaman Dec 2012 #179
Nope, I asked the OP the same exact thing nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #181
You are allowed to protect yourself from home invasion obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #161
I have Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #164
If I or my neighbors had that happen I would get a gun lunatica Dec 2012 #167
I'm sorry you were frightened Warpy Dec 2012 #177
You'd only sleep like a baby if you were a sociopath DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #184
The psychological effects on me are far fewer Indydem Dec 2012 #191
Spoken like somebody who's never nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #192
Spoken like somebody who's been in many shootouts. zappaman Dec 2012 #193
wth is this post meant to mean. the poster made a very honest and truthful post loli phabay Dec 2012 #214
Good for you. In_The_Wind Dec 2012 #201
If you object to having your perspective discounted DO NOT use prejudicial language, "gun grabbers" patrice Dec 2012 #202
Shotguns are better for home defense. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #204
Can you read? Bake Dec 2012 #215
Do you have more guns and do you carry in public? Hoyt Dec 2012 #209
Would you mind telling me where your screen name comes from? nolabear Dec 2012 #210
My screen name is my nickname, what my friends call me. Bake Dec 2012 #218
Thanks. And though I'm not awful fond of cops I've got a family full nolabear Dec 2012 #238
I can't speak for all the "GUN GRABBERS!!!" rustydog Dec 2012 #211
If you read on he has a 15 shot 9mm too. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #212
Nice overstatement there, Warren. Bake Dec 2012 #220
I'm all for getting a gun in those circumstances, but why a pistol? D23MIURG23 Dec 2012 #213
Sorry to express some skepticism, but you've had 3 home invasion attempts coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #224
Wouldn't you move? Who stays in a house after 3 attempted home invasions? Walk away Dec 2012 #225
As this thread amply illustrates (w/ reference to your last sentence). The psychology coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #229
But even allowing that science is ignore by "rational" folks everyday..... Walk away Dec 2012 #242
We did move not too long after the first one Bake Jan 2013 #254
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #231
Are you a psychic? LP2K12 Dec 2012 #240
I note that in all the incidents you cite that you did not use a gun, even to brandish it. maxsolomon Dec 2012 #235
How amazing you were able to survive such a horrendous attack tabasco Dec 2012 #236
Yeah, we were "lucky" that time. Bake Jan 2013 #255
"You gun-grabbers need to consider that" AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #239
"Gun-grabbers." Sigh. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #244
When someone or an ex threatens you ecstatic Jan 2013 #245
AMEN!!!!! AzSweet Jan 2013 #251
I am not for taking away guns dhpgetsit Jan 2013 #257
IF, I repeat....IF marions ghost Jan 2013 #262
Wow. What are the odds? LWolf Jan 2013 #276
Too late. I already reached into a portal Norrin Radd Jan 2013 #277
Birds of a feather flash47 Jan 2013 #287
From now on you should put three bullets through every door before entering Orrex Jan 2013 #294
I'm glad that you'll sleep like a baby afterward. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2013 #300
And when whoever that is figures out how to get your gun and kill you with it, then do whatever it lonestarnot Jan 2013 #314
Holy crap, is that English? Bake Jan 2013 #341
What we've got here... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #319
Sounds you'd love to shoot somebody mokawanis Jan 2013 #324
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #335
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