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randome

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15. My 'hunch' is mostly based on conservative punditry.

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 01:44 PM

Dec 2012

Bill Kristol says taxes should rise. George Will agrees that opposition to gay rights is dying. Those are 2 important changes in perspective, IMO. Canaries in the coal mine, so to speak.

Polling shows Republicans in favor of the idea of raising taxes: http://www.politicususa.com/obama-convinced-republicans-raise-taxes-wealthy.html

It's a sea change but I think Republicans in Congress will start to take notice. Obfuscation and denial has worked for a long time but it won't work forever.

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A sea change in party politics. [View all] MadHound Dec 2012 OP

I think it's more likely the GOP will split than the Democrats. randome Dec 2012 #1

What metrics do you think 'sensible' Republicans have for 'too extreme'? So far, they seem fine. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #3

Well, some of them are advocating for gun control rights and raising taxes on the rich. randome Dec 2012 #12

Well then I guess calling them sensible and claiming they are not comfortable with extremes is just Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #14

My 'hunch' is mostly based on conservative punditry. randome Dec 2012 #15

How many decades are you willing to wait for this three party solution? n/t Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #2

If Democrats cut Social Security, the wait will be until 2014 and no longer. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #4

No, that's when Republicans will gain more seats in the House and Senate.... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #8

No, you did not. You aske how long it would take to see it, and the answer is the one I gave. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #16

Whoa... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #24

I note your utter lack of response to me and other posters. Quick to characterize, slow to discuss. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #22

Sorry, Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #25

See what happens if the Chained CPI remains on the deficit table. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #17

This was just a short part of what was in my letter to my senators, rep & the President, CrispyQ Dec 2012 #27

Something has to change MuseRider Dec 2012 #5

Follow the money... Larkspur Dec 2012 #6

The Democratic party has moved left since the 1990's. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #7

It's never fast enough for some. n/t Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #9

And for others, no delay is too great. For them it can not be slow enough. But I side with those who Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #21

So you tell me, just how do you think you will speed up change? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #28

Not. going. to. happen. quaker bill Dec 2012 #10

You are right in that the Right was organized, while the Left allowed itself sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #18

I have been to this rodeo quaker bill Dec 2012 #31

They ARE the Party and they intend to drag it back from where it has been sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #38

I am good with that. quaker bill Dec 2012 #39

We don't need a third party, we need a second party. And that is what people sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #40

Correct. The more likely scenario is that we go back to the DLC-era where we lost 7 elections BlueStreak Dec 2012 #29

You are correct quaker bill Dec 2012 #30

I don't think you're exactly right, but it would be mighty nice if you were 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #11

I wish the Republicans would take their party back kydo Dec 2012 #13

Indicative JReed Dec 2012 #19

All part and parcel of imperialism..... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #32

I believe the times will force the Democrats to move Left again lunatica Dec 2012 #20

Three party system. hay rick Dec 2012 #23

Just another symptom of a collapsing empire. Nothing new. nt Speck Tater Dec 2012 #26

I don't understand why the Third Way just won't admit they're Republicans. forestpath Dec 2012 #33

A couple of nitpicks..... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #34

i know, right? arely staircase Dec 2012 #36

i don't see any of that happening arely staircase Dec 2012 #35

We are due for a shake up. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #37