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In reply to the discussion: With the destructive power of guns increasing year over year something HAS to be done [View all]HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)61. Correct. And those changes reflect the changes in how modern war is conducted.
No longer large, stationary armies shooting at each other from long range. Now it's smaller, mobile troop units encountering the enemy at close range, providing cover fire while others
move to cover, or a position of greater tactical advantage.
Yes, an M1 is at a disadvantage in that type of battle, but in a battle the M1 is designed to fight, it would be superior firepower to modern weapons. The Afghans were holding off the Russians just fine with their bolt-action Lee-Enfields against Russian AK47s. And the old guns are sill effective in desert warfare, many of the Libyan rebels used vintage weapons.
So, firepower is only relative to the type of battle being fought.
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With the destructive power of guns increasing year over year something HAS to be done [View all]
samsingh
Dec 2012
OP
just that something will have to be done and 2nd amendment proponents can't keep ignoring
samsingh
Dec 2012
#6
well it's not you i'm trying to convince in any case, but expressing my opinion
samsingh
Dec 2012
#17
Can you find one example of a homicide involving a semi-automatic shotgun with a 20 round magazine ?
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#23
.30-'06 muzzle energy near 3,000 foot-pounds. 5.56 mm muzzle energy about 1,100 foot-pounds.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#130
Yet another gun nuttery deflection - why doesn't the US Army use the M1 Garard today?
jpak
Dec 2012
#138
Guns have not become significantly more powerful since about World War I (nt)
Recursion
Dec 2012
#11
The only point you've made is that you haven't a clue what you're talking about.
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#20
i can see your ability to talk about a point rationally - let me try your reasoning
samsingh
Dec 2012
#36
I didn't make the claim firepower was increasing exponentially year by year.
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#46
you clearly - and i'll type this slowly - don't understand what you are taking about or reading in
samsingh
Dec 2012
#71
if gun capabilities have not changed since the late 1800s (i laugh as i type this)
samsingh
Dec 2012
#104
That is true...which is why they were adopted (m16). Little to do with OP though. Nt
jmg257
Dec 2012
#123
So you are saying the firepower of a rifle is dependant on its APPEARANCE?
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#127
i was making a forecast - empirical evidence is used to validate a point - not a forecast.
samsingh
Dec 2012
#75
Actually, empirical evidence is used to substantiate forecasts all the time.
Lizzie Poppet
Dec 2012
#79
why do you think i care whether you address it or not - your acceptance or rejection is completely
samsingh
Dec 2012
#102
if they are designed for a mobile army, why are assualt rifles allowed to be owned by civilians?
samsingh
Dec 2012
#132
Correct. And those changes reflect the changes in how modern war is conducted.
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#61
i don't think it matters to the massacred children, their families, or people like me who care and
samsingh
Dec 2012
#42
love the laughing figure - potentially show how important the gun massacre topic may be to you
samsingh
Dec 2012
#80
where are the links and have you isolated out factors such as gang violence and poverty
samsingh
Dec 2012
#143
i think we should consider those - especially lives that were saved when a gun was available for
samsingh
Dec 2012
#152
there are 20 butchered children and adults who put themselves in front of bullets to save other
samsingh
Dec 2012
#72
Bullets have been getting smaller, not bigger. Guns cannot fire more bullets per minute now...
Recursion
Dec 2012
#43
Guns easily can fire more rounds per minute now then could be done in the 1890's
Kaleva
Dec 2012
#60
i don't remember historical incidents where someone massacred dozens of people
samsingh
Dec 2012
#142
Nothing, really. Like I said the main designs today are from the 1950's and earlier
Recursion
Dec 2012
#163
Someone introduced a hunting handgun cartridge? Jesus, you're stretching there
Recursion
Dec 2012
#164
of course, we should just chuck up massacres - or better still - go buy more guns
samsingh
Dec 2012
#40
The discussions on Meta about deliberate, organized attempts to silence other posters...
Lizzie Poppet
Dec 2012
#55
btw - you're not obligated to respond or even read the whole post of something you don't agree with
samsingh
Dec 2012
#70