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I'm still trying to wrap my head around so many staunchly pro-gun folks on DU [View all]	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	OP
They are a small, small minority. They're just louder.	onehandle	Dec 2012	#1
I hope so.	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#2
and incredibly stubborn. obtuse even.	MjolnirTime	Dec 2012	#26
40 percent of Democrats are armed	Mojorabbit	Dec 2012	#220
False	bongbong	Dec 2012	#253
You will notice that in a household with the Dems interviewed	Mojorabbit	Jan 2013	#257
Take your NRA Talking Points somewhere else, maybe Freeperland	bongbong	Jan 2013	#259
I suggest you read it again	Mojorabbit	Jan 2013	#260
LOL	bongbong	Jan 2013	#261
Look again. 40 percent of dems interviewed had a weapon in the house. nt	Mojorabbit	Jan 2013	#262
LOL	bongbong	Jan 2013	#264
I am repeating what my posting of the graph said	Mojorabbit	Jan 2013	#266
Very few people here have said NOTHING should be done	NickB79	Dec 2012	#3
I have no problem with your stance on the matter as you describe it	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#4
I can understand that	NickB79	Dec 2012	#12
You've touched on one of the reasons why people like me are so stubborn on the gun issue	derby378	Dec 2012	#167
While Minnesota is solidly blue,	Jenoch	Dec 2012	#188
Exactly - this is going to be a national problem that hounds Democrats for years to come	derby378	Dec 2012	#229
I Am Pro 2nd Amendment Repeal Because I Am Tired Of Living In A Concealed Carry World Where I	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#35
Yes!	the_wozneer	Dec 2012	#87
Another incredibly callous remark,	thucythucy	Dec 2012	#98
Yes, I Am A Simpleton - Guns Kill And I Don't Want To Die At The Hands Of A Gun Owner	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#126
Agreed: snark and insult do nothing to help resolve this issue.	Lizzie Poppet	Dec 2012	#138
Well Wozneer - Not Everything In This World Is Designed To Kill As Its Primary Purpose	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#222
Exactly how many concealed carry holders have gone "postal" in the past year?	forthemiddle	Dec 2012	#154
Matters Not To Me; I Lived In Fear Of One Concealed Carry Holder For 18 Months	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#170
So you blame all 10 million of us because of the actions of one? N/T	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#184
Yes - You Are Part Of What Makes The Gun Culture Thrive And You Become Equally Responsible Each Time	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#221
What are your views on the alcohol culture?	hack89	Dec 2012	#224
False Equivalency - Nice Try Using The NRA Talking Point	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#230
So people don't use alcohol in an irresponsible manner	hack89	Dec 2012	#231
That's Why We Have DUI Laws - Nice Try On The Misdirection	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#234
So we should pass laws against shooting other people?	hack89	Dec 2012	#236
No - We Should Pass Laws Outlawing Firearms	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#241
But not laws outlawing alcohol?	hack89	Dec 2012	#247
Without too many specifics,	Jenoch	Dec 2012	#233
Can't Provide Too Many Details - Legal Reasons - Disgruntled Employee	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#235
I shed no tears for you. You have the NRA and PLENTY of support from people with money and power.	PeaceNikki	Dec 2012	#5
You need to think beyond picking either extreme	NickB79	Dec 2012	#9
non-gun owner here...	lexw	Dec 2012	#28
If you talk to our gungeoneers you quickly realize that there is no	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#141
How exactly do you intend to take	Jenoch	Dec 2012	#190
1) stop selling new ones.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#191
Wow.	rrneck	Dec 2012	#194
What is wrong with that plan?	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#201
Oh, it's a great plan. It just won't work.	rrneck	Dec 2012	#203
The law can shut them down from selling certain kinds of guns and this is	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#208
When you get that law passed get back to me.	rrneck	Dec 2012	#211
Notice the tack from wont work to wont get passed.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#226
Notice the literalism in the service of facile ideology.	rrneck	Dec 2012	#232
Obviously legislation would work. I'll accept that.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#237
First, you have to get the legislation passed into law.	rrneck	Dec 2012	#238
I Am Tired Of Living In Fear Of Gun Owners And Gun Enablers - Repeal The 2nd Amendment	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#171
It only takes 13 states to block a constitutional amendment.	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#185
There Is A Real World Solution - Repeal The 2nd Amendment - See This DU Thread For The Horror Of SH	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#245
Repealing 2A is not going to happen.	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#246
How many disgruntled former employees	Jenoch	Dec 2012	#243
The One With The Concealed Carry Permit - During The 18 Months The Threats Were Subtle But Real	cantbeserious	Dec 2012	#244
Most are Republican trolls.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#6
so the majority	oddoneout	Dec 2012	#40
I didn't say DU gun owners.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#41
i own a few	oddoneout	Dec 2012	#42
.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#44
OK	oddoneout	Dec 2012	#45
Snap.	Robb	Dec 2012	#50
Lol.	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#62
What's up with the sudden influx of newbie gun defenders?	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#65
Some are returning banned trolls.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#68
The breeding stock	billh58	Dec 2012	#84
are you sure	barbtries	Dec 2012	#102
Anything is possible.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#110
i dunno.	barbtries	Dec 2012	#111
This is true.	UnrepentantLiberal	Dec 2012	#113
They make a whopping $.05 per post	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#183
I seriously doubt that DU pays people to post here.	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#186
Of course not	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#217
That's pretty interesting	rl6214	Dec 2012	#198
What sites like that do	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#218
They are being recruited by	billh58	Dec 2012	#77
Yeah, it's pretty obvious	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#182
If you argue against any	billh58	Dec 2012	#76
Let me ask you an honest question.	shadowrider	Dec 2012	#165
I have NEVER been a member or supporter	Jenoch	Dec 2012	#193
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA	DainBramaged	Dec 2012	#252
This thread seems to attract them	Pretzel_Warrior	Jan 2013	#272
money	farminator3000	Dec 2012	#7
+1 nt	Whovian	Dec 2012	#8
Trolling for dollars - a rather popular program in places like DU!	Bozita	Dec 2012	#23
its really kind of awful!	farminator3000	Dec 2012	#31
To disrupt the board	lolly	Dec 2012	#134
And the NRA/Gungeon dwellers	billh58	Dec 2012	#157
organized resistance!!	farminator3000	Dec 2012	#164
you nailed it!	farminator3000	Dec 2012	#161
I'm done supporting any changes	former-republican	Dec 2012	#10
Any changes in what?	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#66
Do not fall into the "no true Scotsman" fallacy as other here have	ProgressiveProfessor	Dec 2012	#11
the studies are far, far more obvious than you seem to want to admit	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#13
There are several key data points the studies cannot cover	ProgressiveProfessor	Dec 2012	#15
especially with SYG laws, "self defense" claims have doubled in some states.	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#124
Can we see some actual cites to your claims, please? n/t	PavePusher	Dec 2012	#248
Deaths Nearly Triple Since “Stand Your Ground” Enacted (in Florida)	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#249
And the NRA bots march on	bongbong	Dec 2012	#254
Meaningless stat unless you can show that individual cases were decided incorrectly.	PavePusher	Jan 2013	#268
I agree - no one likes crime/violence	Yo_Mama	Dec 2012	#75
I actually have a reason why, it is my own opinion though (and I, to some, pro-gun)	The Straight Story	Dec 2012	#14
Bravo	Fla_Democrat	Dec 2012	#54
Well said (n/t)	derby378	Dec 2012	#168
Hi fellow human being...	Toronto	Jan 2013	#256
Thank you so much. NT	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#265
The problem that millions of Americans are trying to solve	rrneck	Dec 2012	#16
Reminds me a bit of the east side here	The Straight Story	Dec 2012	#17
Restricting choice does work. There is no smoking in bars around here. Or restaurants. Or places of	kwassa	Dec 2012	#139
You've only been on DU for a mere COUPLE OF WEEKS, of course you don't understand.	Festivito	Dec 2012	#18
I support the Democratic Party Platform. If you oppose the Second Amendment you don't. nt	jody	Dec 2012	#19
So you support an assault weapon ban?	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#58
I support the Platform, do you support the Second Amendment? nt	jody	Dec 2012	#72
I support the platform. I do not support the current interpretation of the 2a by	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#91
I support our Platform. You admit supporting PART of our Platform. In Heller, both opinion & dissent	jody	Dec 2012	#100
You continue to not answer the question.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#120
Answered but not read or comprehended. That's your personal problem. nt	jody	Dec 2012	#121
There is no direct support explicitly for the awb in anything you have written.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#122
See #100 nt	jody	Dec 2012	#133
You are unable to answer the question directly. Post 100 is a non answer.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#140
I support the Constitution, which trumps any party's platform	derby378	Dec 2012	#169
Oh tag teaming, cool.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#174
"Tag-teaming?" Try "reality check" instead	derby378	Dec 2012	#175
So, it appears you are against an assault weapons ban.Why are you afraid to clearly state this?	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#128
He'd fail his own purity test, so now it is a matter of honor.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#145
an absurd statement.	barbtries	Dec 2012	#104
barbtries see #100 nt	jody	Dec 2012	#107
I don't support the 2nd Amendment as it's been interpreted	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2012	#178
yup, just look at this	JI7	Dec 2012	#20
I'm a democrat have been raised around democrats and guns my whole life. What's your point? nt	jal777	Dec 2012	#21
It's when they adopt Republican talking points and Wayne La Pierre talking points	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#22
I'm not up to date with their talking points. But....	jal777	Dec 2012	#27
Who has called you a murderer for target shooting?	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#29
Several posters are saying that the...	jal777	Dec 2012	#30
By semi auto do your mean assault rifle?	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#32
here you go...	jal777	Dec 2012	#33
Could not agree	JohnnyBoots	Dec 2012	#38
Then I agree with you	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#53
All "by the book"	billh58	Dec 2012	#82
"NRA talking points", again? Why not toss in "Gruss Gott" or "Inshallah" while you're at it?	friendly_iconoclast	Dec 2012	#199
Agree	the_wozneer	Dec 2012	#88
Assault rifles are tightly regulated under the National Firearms Act of 1934. nt	jody	Dec 2012	#118
Assault Rifles are full-auto. There are few & highly regulated.	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#267
Then why do you	billh58	Dec 2012	#81
The U.S. doesn't have a Dept. of Needs.	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#187
One has often said "all gun owners have blood on their hands"	ProgressiveProfessor	Dec 2012	#101
and a few have claimed they would shoot LEO officers if they tried to take their weapons...	bettyellen	Dec 2012	#132
What's yours? eom	billh58	Dec 2012	#78
I like guns because it scares Righty	Captain Boomerang	Dec 2012	#24
If you wish to buy an	Jenoch	Dec 2012	#195
I'm still trying to wrap my head around so many staunchly pro-gun folks on DU	The CCC	Dec 2012	#25
If there is a sane rationale for allowing private ownership of assault weapons I've yet to hear it	dschmott	Dec 2012	#34
The OP isn't restricting his post to assault weapons. He's talking about ALL guns, owned by anyone,	Honeycombe8	Dec 2012	#63
Because I believe hand guns should be restricted	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#73
Over 810,000 LEO choose handguns for self-defense. Why shouldn't law-abiding citizens? nt	jody	Dec 2012	#119
By LEO you mean law enforcement officers? They use them in their job to fight crime	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#204
You are certainly welcome to your opinions	Flyboy_451	Jan 2013	#255
If so many people that you otherwise respect disagree with you...	Demo_Chris	Dec 2012	#36
40% of Democratic voters..live in a household that has a gun..	Upton	Dec 2012	#37
That's the $64 question. The NRA wants to steer gun owners to the GOP.	eallen	Dec 2012	#60
"Some Democrats seem eager to help them." Respectfully, I think that it is some alleged Democrats.	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2012	#210
I can't wrap my head around so many pro-violence game Democrats. But	Safetykitten	Dec 2012	#39
I love it when..	sendero	Dec 2012	#43
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2012	#47
Well thanks for posting it..	sendero	Dec 2012	#49
What. The. FUCK!	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#67
Exactly.	lolly	Dec 2012	#137
There are many millions of armed liberal Democrats...	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#269
I think you're in the wrong place.	WilliamPitt	Dec 2012	#71
The wrong place he might call 'home,'	Call Me Wesley	Dec 2012	#135
The NRA position on guns is explicity anti-science	lolly	Dec 2012	#136
It is the new normal	Resonance_Chamber	Dec 2012	#46
I think part of it is a divide between urban and rural folks.	Zorra	Dec 2012	#48
Has gun ownership always been a Dem litmus test?	Puzzledtraveller	Dec 2012	#51
Ownership? No. RKBA absolutism is a rightwing political position.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#59
If we allow you to define the term, perhaps.	beevul	Dec 2012	#214
Absent an appalling massacre event, the gungeoneers haven't met a serious	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#225
It is one of many litmus tests.....	whistler162	Dec 2012	#92
Thanks.	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2012	#212
See #269 for the "history" of gun control in the Party.	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#270
Hell, I'm a gun owner and these gun nuts drive me crazy.	Odin2005	Dec 2012	#52
My guess is less than 14% of our members.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#55
The Gun Nut forum has been here a long time	liberal N proud	Dec 2012	#56
Yup. Deal breaker.	MichiganVote	Dec 2012	#206
There was a decision made by the PTB to welcome them. Now DU is GU (Guns Underground)	leveymg	Dec 2012	#57
I haven't seen any posts by gun owners who are against any type of controls...Names, please.	Honeycombe8	Dec 2012	#61
Much of it is very well organized Astroturf. ALEC has lot of money!	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#64
It's the adoption of NRA crackpot gun positions that gets me	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#69
+1!	uponit7771	Dec 2012	#79
Holy shit!	neverforget	Dec 2012	#192
I've had many discussions with pro-gunners, and they basically do not believe in science.	DanTex	Dec 2012	#70
Following	the_wozneer	Dec 2012	#89
And yet another NRA	billh58	Dec 2012	#94
The Wozzer has left the building.	GoneOffShore	Dec 2012	#115
I have a feeling that its	billh58	Dec 2012	#117
Recruited or revived?	GoneOffShore	Dec 2012	#127
This post is a great example of what I was talking about.	DanTex	Dec 2012	#97
Very few on this thread acknowledge the real gun problem in this country.	RC	Dec 2012	#74
"The United States has the world's highest gun death rate."	EX500rider	Dec 2012	#142
You really think that we	billh58	Dec 2012	#150
I see...	EX500rider	Dec 2012	#159
I realize that it's hard for you	billh58	Dec 2012	#160
Gotta ya..	EX500rider	Dec 2012	#162
And being number 14	billh58	Dec 2012	#166
We have found in the past that some of them are right wingers	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2012	#80
I don't even own a gun.......	musical_soul	Dec 2012	#83
We dont like your kind here	the_wozneer	Dec 2012	#90
Are things really that dull over	billh58	Dec 2012	#95
Just ignore this PPRd wozneer troll. He speaks for nobody. nt	Electric Monk	Dec 2012	#109
Pepperoni or Mushroom?	sellitman	Dec 2012	#130
Huh?	the_wozneer	Dec 2012	#85
Does mommy know	billh58	Dec 2012	#96
Because they love their guns more than they value your life	Rex	Dec 2012	#86
Not that complicated. Maybe you're just not interested	closeupready	Dec 2012	#93
No. I have no problem having dialogue; however	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#103
If you say you want dialogue, I believe you.	closeupready	Dec 2012	#129
Hopefully we proceed in the weeks ahead with more level headed discussion	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#216
Trade-offs have to be balanced	Shrek	Dec 2012	#99
Being skeptical of gun control isn't the same as being "pro-gun"	Recursion	Dec 2012	#105
Good post	Chico Man	Dec 2012	#197
NRA propaganda works on fear and ignorance	Skittles	Dec 2012	#106
there are only about 10-15 different pro-gun or pro-NRA fans on the gun section.They are loud	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#108
I agree	the antigun	Dec 2012	#112
Welcome to DU!	Recursion	Dec 2012	#114
This all sounds strangely familiar...	billh58	Dec 2012	#116
"No one is calling for a total "ban" on all guns, or a repeal of the 2nd Amendment"	EX500rider	Dec 2012	#143
As has been pointed out repeatedly,	billh58	Dec 2012	#146
So you didn't really mean "no one" n/t	EX500rider	Dec 2012	#147
Yes, I did mean	billh58	Dec 2012	#148
"no one" & "no one of consequence" not the same thing..	EX500rider	Dec 2012	#149
Yeah, right Bubba.	billh58	Dec 2012	#151
Snort....lol...	EX500rider	Dec 2012	#153
I couldn't resist...	billh58	Dec 2012	#163
Too funny.	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2012	#213
Some of us live in the country	DollarBillHines	Dec 2012	#123
Which means you're not who I was talking about.	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#125
I'm amused by the ones screaming about how they're 'vilified', 'everybody's being MEAN to them'...	PeaceNikki	Dec 2012	#131
+100	Taverner	Dec 2012	#155
Because we Liberals...	PoliticalBiker	Dec 2012	#144
Im not 'pro-gun'	MFM008	Dec 2012	#152
Bazookas are completely legal.	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#189
When you have been around here for a while you will find many	doc03	Dec 2012	#156
And it's comical how they	billh58	Dec 2012	#158
The number of posters who say "nothing" (your words) should be done is vanishingly small.	KittyWampus	Dec 2012	#172
You can show me all the scientific studies you want	customerserviceguy	Dec 2012	#173
the 'what about the cars argument' is one of the dumbest made by the death mongers.	bowens43	Dec 2012	#177
I'm talking about	customerserviceguy	Dec 2012	#180
I think it may be a form of mental illness....	bowens43	Dec 2012	#176
I don't own a gun	Chico Man	Dec 2012	#207
I am from a solidly blue state (Minnesota)	Jenoch	Dec 2012	#179
Because the NRA has little ro"bots" that go around the internet and tell	applegrove	Dec 2012	#181
Yep, that's whats happening!	MightyMopar	Dec 2012	#228
I'm not actually staunchly pro-gun	Chico Man	Dec 2012	#196
The question is.....what form of gun control over and above our current laws	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#200
That is a very complicated question	Chico Man	Dec 2012	#202
Contrarians who happen to own guns..and who love talking about them more than almost anything else	SoCalDem	Dec 2012	#205
So many members rejecting the DU line	Chico Man	Dec 2012	#209
We don't know for sure because the US is	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#239
Gun cos. Are not a very big sector in this economy	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#271
I think it's two-fold...	OneTenthofOnePercent	Dec 2012	#215
Yay! I had a post tweeted by a conservadork!	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#219
i don't think most of them are progressives/liberals or even Democrats	JI7	Dec 2012	#223
NRA employees gotta do what NRA employees gotta do. nt	valerief	Dec 2012	#227
Amazing what comes out from under the bridge (or inside the Cave)...	backscatter712	Dec 2012	#240
Lol. Yikes! Gross. Arrgghh.	Pretzel_Warrior	Dec 2012	#242
One DUer really surprised me. That poster is a way our Progressive member.	bluestate10	Dec 2012	#250
they are skeered	Skittles	Dec 2012	#251
I guess it's a MUCH bigger tent than you thought it was, huh?	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2013	#258
YAwn n/t	L0oniX	Jan 2013	#263

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