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Mon Jan 23, 2012, 04:25 PM

23. +1000

Maybe one day people will wake up and understand our winner-take-all system.

Hedges was a Naderite. Realistically speaking, what would Nader have done with a Republican controlled congress? Yes, we even have one NOW.

Nader would have been a lame duck from the get go, and then you'd see Democrats unify with Republicans in Congress to oppose everything and anything he wanted to do and nothing would happen. The old adage, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" would've been on full display and what good would that do any of us?

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151 replies	Author	Time	Post
Bless Chris Hedges! [View all]	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	OP
I suppose he means well, bless his heart.	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#1
Damn. Beat me to it. nt	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#3
Well, if trying to save lives of innocents is 'meaning well' as he has always done	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#16
Well, bless your heart, too, then.	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#19
Leaving death, destruction and misery in their wake	MinervaX	Jan 2012	#45
Go or stay, they can't win.	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#53
I hear a lot of things. I hear about drone attacks escalating and more children dying	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#72
I'm always glad to hear your opinion of me.	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#111
It only takes a second. I type over 120 a minute or faster.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#128
He is one of our finest minds and yet you ridicule him. I find that silly and irresponsible. nt	xiamiam	Jan 2012	#127
He is voting Third Party, I find that silly and irresponsible.	SunsetDreams	Jan 2012	#134
Of course-- he seems to put principles ahead of the 'team'.	Marr	Jan 2012	#140
Bless his heart. nt	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#2
I learned all that from my grandmother,	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#13
I worked in DC with some southern transplants.	msanthrope	Jan 2012	#28
And she would take you out	Are_grits_groceries	Jan 2012	#56
Ah, she died these 40 years ago.	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#108
Can't wait until he starts 3rdPartyUnderground.com!!!	JoePhilly	Jan 2012	#4
Heh	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2012	#8
And which "Obama bad" meme will he subscribe to because he's all over the place.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#20
Agree ... and I want to see these 3rd party folks get busy on 2016!!!	JoePhilly	Jan 2012	#30
That's my biggest criticism of Ralph Nader and one of the reasons why the Greens ostracized him.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#39
YUP ... he's like a ground hog who pops out to see his shadow in election years.	JoePhilly	Jan 2012	#41
Love this post!	redqueen	Jan 2012	#60
Thanks ... I'd be happy to see an actual 3rd party ...	JoePhilly	Jan 2012	#74
And if we magically did elect a third party president,	redqueen	Jan 2012	#80
I thought as Chris Hedges does in 1996 and 2000. See, I supported Nader, too. I have to live	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#89
The closest I ever came to that was supporting Kucinich.	redqueen	Jan 2012	#91
well said!	zappaman	Jan 2012	#92
Walking the walk, something very few people as gifted as he is choose to do.	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#5
Agreed. n/t	MuseRider	Jan 2012	#7
Exactly!	proud2BlibKansan	Jan 2012	#122
"When keeping it real goes wrong."	Robb	Jan 2012	#6
Goes wrong	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#9
Heh.	Scurrilous	Jan 2012	#29
Yes, bless his lil heart. n/t	one_voice	Jan 2012	#10
Bless	ProSense	Jan 2012	#11
Thank you, ProSense	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2012	#15
LOL	MinervaX	Jan 2012	#46
I'm	ProSense	Jan 2012	#64
Yes, bless all those who oppose the brutal, illegal, genocidal wars that have slaughtered so	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#12
'Genocidal?'	RZM	Jan 2012	#18
Trying to square the civilian body counts with our poorly defined objectives	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#26
It was genocide.	girl gone mad	Jan 2012	#31
I don't know, how many dead Muslims does it take before it becomes genocide?	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#34
For the record, I haven't made any negative comments about Hedges, nor do I plan to	RZM	Jan 2012	#48
Numbers actually matter more than words in this case imho.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#67
Thank you....	Dragonfli	Jan 2012	#131
Hi Dragonfli,	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#132
The Iraq War was genocidal	cpwm17	Jan 2012	#51
That was a revealing historical moment.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#115
Indeed.	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#21
You and Chris Hedges just don't appreciate all the DIFFERENCES	gratuitous	Jan 2012	#25
Well, I guess I don't want to be any club that turns a blind to blown up children	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#54
Yes and I'm sure a new Republican President can't wait to blow up Iranian children and women. Voting	Pisces	Jan 2012	#100
I agree, which is why I am a Democrat.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#101
Bless his vote that does nothing to help the Democrat WIN against the GOP.	CakeGrrl	Jan 2012	#14
+1000	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2012	#23
How exactly is that any different from our current situation? Obama is pretty well allied with the	Erose999	Jan 2012	#66
Maybe actual principles are more important than political victories	_ed_	Jan 2012	#43
strawman argument nt	zappaman	Jan 2012	#44
No, it isn't. It's a direct response to a poitical argument. nt	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#69
You should look up the definition of a straw man argument	_ed_	Jan 2012	#148
Tell it to people whose human rights are at the mercy of President Gingrich/Romney.	CakeGrrl	Jan 2012	#96
Anwar Al-Awlaki's teenage son was killed in a drone strike	_ed_	Jan 2012	#147
bless him for trying to elect republicans? i'll leave that to you.	dionysus	Jan 2012	#17
Nice straw man argument	_ed_	Jan 2012	#40
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Jan 2012	#22
Yes, and DU Terms of Service be damned!	Hugabear	Jan 2012	#24
Problem for you is	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#27
You can copy and paste that all you want.	Union Scribe	Jan 2012	#143
Oh, shush! He's a "professional leftist" and troublemaker who doesn't toe the party line.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jan 2012	#32
Et tu, Thomas Jefferson?	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#110
Fuck Chris Hedges	zappaman	Jan 2012	#33
Fuck Straw Man Arguments	_ed_	Jan 2012	#36
There's a difference	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#37
so are you advocating voting 3rd party?	zappaman	Jan 2012	#41
What are you babbling about?	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#47
Babbling?	zappaman	Jan 2012	#50
Advocating?	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#55
again...simple question	zappaman	Jan 2012	#57
Nothing requires me to tell you how I will vote	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#61
okay	zappaman	Jan 2012	#63
While I can't speak for whatchamacallit...	progressoid	Jan 2012	#103
True, which is why I will be voting D all the way down the line.	zappaman	Jan 2012	#114
Where do you get off demanding everyone	Union Scribe	Jan 2012	#144
Thanks	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#125
So to be clear, you are explicitly promoting the idea of voting 3rd Party.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#59
Where did I do that?	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#62
yes or no?	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#65
Where does the poster advocate for a third party? Show the words, thanks.	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#71
this whole god-damn thread is doing it. Don't be facile.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#75
I don't need to give you a break because I don't agree with your, um, creative speculation.	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#82
My, um, creative speculation is, um, dead fucking obvious because, um, Chris Hedges said TODAY	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#99
No, actually, this whole thread is not 'doing it'.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#90
Right.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#97
Not to me there isn't.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#102
Give other posters a fucking break.	Union Scribe	Jan 2012	#145
Okay, I did all those things. And I still think Chris Hedges is an ass.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#146
That's what it sounds like to me...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2012	#68
The poster won't come out and say it	zappaman	Jan 2012	#70
Me, too! I've been there. Done that. It's tired. Third parties have absolutely no influence on	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#93
no Sid, you got it all wrong! just because they hate obama, and are kissing this idiot's ass for	dionysus	Jan 2012	#105
Lol! Keep trying.	whatchamacallit	Jan 2012	#107
Oh, I will. You can count on that...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2012	#116
To be really clear, Chris Hedges has said he will be voting third party. The person you are	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#85
+1...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2012	#52
Post removed	Post removed	Jan 2012	#35
"Acolytes"	_ed_	Jan 2012	#38
ROFL...	SidDithers	Jan 2012	#49
Yes, we should show extra compassion to the mentally incapacitated	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#58
You apparently are talking about some other Chris Hedges and not this one:	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#73
WEEEVE KWIS HEDGES AWONE!!!!!!!	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#76
Who can argue with that kind of intellect?	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#78
Ralph Nader also had an impressive resume, once upon a time.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#95
a paid GOP stooge?	progressoid	Jan 2012	#104
He took money from Republicans in 2004.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#112
The SC stole the 2000 election. Gore won that election!	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#106
Nader made the theft way fucking easier, didn't he.	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#113
No, he didn't actually. The 300,000 Democrats who voted for Bush	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#121
No, it didn't die a long time ago, because it's still true. And THEN Nader took $ from Republicans	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#123
Politics isn't about personalities, it's about issues.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#126
Now Sabrina, you know good and well that some of these folks entire model of politics	TheKentuckian	Jan 2012	#130
Lol, that last sentence, so tragically true and to me, such a disappointment.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#133
I made the same error.	TheKentuckian	Jan 2012	#150
That last sentence pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?	woo me with science	Jan 2012	#149
You were urging compassion for the mentally incapacitated?	Marr	Jan 2012	#141
Hurr	Warren DeMontague	Jan 2012	#142
Nah, he was talking about this one.	zappaman	Jan 2012	#77
Uh huh. And before he said that, all the same people appreciated him here at DU.	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#79
so what?	zappaman	Jan 2012	#81
I have long appreciated Chris Hedges and will continue to appreciate him long after	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#83
Cool.	zappaman	Jan 2012	#84
Hedges is not a Democrat, thus I don't expect him to act like one.	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2012	#86
Nothing wrong with agreeing with some things he says	zappaman	Jan 2012	#87
Chris Hedges is a great guy! :)	limpyhobbler	Jan 2012	#88
Yeah real stupid	SpartanDem	Jan 2012	#94
The difference is that Gore ran a bad campaign.	zappaman	Jan 2012	#98
Who are you talking to??	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#109
I like this new "you're chasing us away from the Democratic Party" meme. It's a hoot.	Robb	Jan 2012	#117
I'm glad you like it, as it is true.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#118
I was being facetious. It's a pile of horseshit.	Robb	Jan 2012	#119
Well, I'm not going to argue about it, but anytime you want some evidence I'll be happy	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#120
Fuck him. He's trying to elect Republicans.	DevonRex	Jan 2012	#124
This fight isnt between the D's and the R's as many posters here pretend.	rhett o rick	Jan 2012	#129
Wow...	Rex	Jan 2012	#135
Here	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2012	#137
The previous post was a result of this	SunsetDreams	Jan 2012	#138
Who?	boppers	Jan 2012	#136
blessing are so rare nowadays, how could i not rec?	NuttyFluffers	Jan 2012	#139
He's Mostly On The Money	colsohlibgal	Jan 2012	#151

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