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OrwellwasRight

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75. Interesting you said shotgun.

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:39 PM

Dec 2012

A shotgun is not a semi automatic weapon, and the OP is about semiautomatic weapons. No one is trying to pry this woman's shotgun out of her hands and your post provides proff that she did not need a semiautomatic weapon to defend herself.

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If you support the RTKBA over the right to life - you are not a progressive [View all] Taverner Dec 2012 OP

+A Bunch. Hoyt Dec 2012 #1

Anyone who kicks in the front door of someone's home TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #2

If that happens, your gun won't save you Taverner Dec 2012 #4

I don't own and carry a firearm because it might happen TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #11

Why does everyone that ever defended themsleves with a firearm also own such cheap doors? Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #51

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #57

What did you replace the "kicked-in" door with? Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #60

What do military tactical experts do to minimize the attack? LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #104

First thing I did when I bought this house years ago was replace the front door. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #131

It's because most of these stories are made up Taverner Dec 2012 #70

Try to kick down even a cheap front door. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #92

We lived in a double wide for awhile and it had the cheapest doors EVER. renie408 Dec 2012 #136

Because instead of giving themselves seconds to arm/discourage via steel doors and frames DainBramaged Dec 2012 #126

Guns and such anger don't mix well. Hoyt Dec 2012 #54

neither do legal gun owners and people looking to cause them harm. TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #58

I sure hope you don't pack in public as well. Hoyt Dec 2012 #61

I've carried legally for as long as I can remember TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #63

Typical gun toter rhetoric. Tell your boy LaPierre hello. Hoyt Dec 2012 #65

It was ever so brief. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #94

Another right wing gun cultist entering and welcomed by Gungeoneers. Hoyt Dec 2012 #108

You assume, wrongly, that anyone who carries has a chip on his/her shoulder. Bake Dec 2012 #117

Women tend to be more responsible than men about guns. Hoyt Dec 2012 #121

So the law abiding citizens don't get to jog in the park. Bake Dec 2012 #149

George Zimmerman, Loughner, Holmes, Stawicki, etc., were all law-abiding according to gun Hoyt Dec 2012 #150

Sorry. I can carry legally. Bake Dec 2012 #151

Lots of things are legal, yet immoral, menace to society, etc. Hoyt Dec 2012 #152

The gun is an inanimate object, neither moral nor immoral. Bake Dec 2012 #153

That's just the way Hoyt is to anyone that doesn't drink his koolaide rl6214 Dec 2012 #140

And 1 arsehole in a 1000 survives being ejected from... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #99

You are dead wrong on that one. 18 yo mother, husband died of cancer on Christmas jtuck004 Dec 2012 #67

Interesting you said shotgun. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #75

There are semi-automatic shotguns. There are shotguns that are assault weapons (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #89

Then not those. Taverner Dec 2012 #93

No one? Really? Bake Dec 2012 #119

Actually a shotgun is often a semi-automatic weapon, and some other reading I have jtuck004 Dec 2012 #148

Just let me know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #96

Ah the "superspy comes to kill me" defense... Taverner Dec 2012 #97

There's this term. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #100

Does not follow - which is YOUR argument Taverner Dec 2012 #101

Really n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #109

We agree about that. Some of us have legit reasons to fear Concealed Carry in PUBLIC. patrice Dec 2012 #15

Agreed - Concealed Carry Is Menace To Society cantbeserious Dec 2012 #59

There are places I would like to go, but I don't AND I'm not the only one AND that fact, plane & patrice Dec 2012 #62

You seem to enjoy this fantasy Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #26

What kind of fucking moron would see their family being in harm's way TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #28

The kind who is into hero fantasies? Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #29

great, then talk to gun nuts about that TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #31

Lock and load! Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #56

the usual paranoia strikes again Skittles Dec 2012 #39

That is an exceptionally bold statement. Indydem Dec 2012 #3

I think that there is a difference between gun owner and gun NUT. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #5

+100000 Taverner Dec 2012 #7

Unfortunately that isnot the prevailing idea around here. Indydem Dec 2012 #9

Oh, bull... you're wrong on that being the 'prevailing idea around here'. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #12

I've spent the last 2 weeks getting destroyed. Indydem Dec 2012 #16

Depends on how you define "prevailing" Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #22

Check out their transparency page. Quite revealing. Electric Monk Dec 2012 #55

Lots of anger there....against words posted by a stranger, on an internet board. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #64

I don't know about prevailing, but he's right that gun owners generally have been called nuts here.. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #82

While I am not in the camp you describe, I shed no tears for you. You have the NRA and PLENTY of PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #87

Anything going on on this board, you MUST factor in trollery of one degree or another. patrice Dec 2012 #25

Am I a gun owner, or a gun nut? shadowrider Dec 2012 #33

I don't know you, but you're clearly willing to discuss things that can be done. My vote is NOT nut. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #36

if you keep asking people to define "gun nut" Skittles Dec 2012 #41

If you agree with anything Ted Nugent says, YOU ARE MOST DEFINITELY A GUN NUT. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #43

OMG PeaceNikki Skittles Dec 2012 #45

If your firearm has a name...you might be a gun nut Taverner Dec 2012 #71

Especially if your firearm is your baby. LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #111

I have no problems with a gun Taverner Dec 2012 #6

Isn't RKBA kind of about using the guns for killing people though? rbixby Dec 2012 #81

Many here think killing someone is just like in Rambo... Taverner Dec 2012 #84

This tantrum totally persuaded me to the OPs position cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #8

poor thing has been neglected and is searching for the Mother Love. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #44

Honestly! I'm not entirely comfortable, but willing to compromise a little to respect the rights of patrice Dec 2012 #10

I just get sick of the knee jerk reaction to any talk of regulation Taverner Dec 2012 #14

Most handguns are semi-auto shadowrider Dec 2012 #34

Plenty of revolvers are on the market theKed Dec 2012 #129

Plenty of revolvers are on the market theKed Dec 2012 #130

My vision of the future, especially the future for more troubled cohorts, in their OWN communities patrice Dec 2012 #52

Seems to me that just gives name calling a new suit of clothes HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #13

I'm so out of the loop. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #17

right to keep and bear arms PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #20

Well, duh. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #24

Oops, when you mentioned the 'right to life', I thought you were saying you supported... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #18

"Right to Life" atreides1 Dec 2012 #19

I thought the same thing... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #23

Sorry - best I could come up with Taverner Dec 2012 #27

They do need a new way of referring to authentic Right to Life that recognizes OUR very very real patrice Dec 2012 #37

Yes. Exactly. Taverner Dec 2012 #79

K&R Whovian Dec 2012 #21

No. Tell me Big Guy exactly, how was I born? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #30

lol!! nt darkangel218 Dec 2012 #38

False dilemma, a common logical fallacy slackmaster Dec 2012 #35

Both sides practice this Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #40

but, which side started this thread? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #46

Meh....sort of irrelevant Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #48

very much relevant to this thread. IF? please. I changed your Momma's diapers. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #50

My biggest fan! If I said the sky was blue, you'd claim it was red. Taverner Dec 2012 #78

Floyd_Gondolli, is that you? did you get you get your socks confused? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #80

news from you - I am, and have only ever been, Taverner Taverner Dec 2012 #83

Then; Why are You all up in this subthread chasing me down, stalker. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #85

That's not me... Taverner Dec 2012 #88

like I always say, better pissed off than pissed on. C ya, Floyd_Gondolli, dueces. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #90

Chickens most definitely came first slackmaster Dec 2012 #47

Nice false dichotomy ya got there. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #42

You seem to be confusing RTKBA with supporting assault weapons michigandem58 Dec 2012 #49

You seem to be confusing your trolling with something meaninfgul Taverner Dec 2012 #77

So you oppose a woman's right to choice? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #53

Right to life not in the Anti Abortion context Taverner Dec 2012 #76

You seem to have missed the main point. That being about absolutes and the implied second Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #138

Ah once again the Not True Scotsman arguement raises it head hootinholler Dec 2012 #66

Ah the "names are meaningless" fallacy Taverner Dec 2012 #72

To the contrary hootinholler Dec 2012 #122

I don't understand why we can't just do the same as abelenkpe Dec 2012 #68

Because Gun Nuts would rather everyone die in a standoff... Taverner Dec 2012 #74

Oh, look: yet more bullshit amateur psychoanalysis... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #91

I support your right to be an idiot. Swamp Lover Dec 2012 #69

Does your "piece" have a name? Taverner Dec 2012 #73

No. My daughter and my graddaughter have names. Swamp Lover Dec 2012 #154

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #86

So youre implying rightful gun owners are " fascists " and dont care about your life? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #95

I understood it to be directed at those who totally refuse to budge and discuss gun control. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #98

We discuss gun control all the time. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #105

I don't read it that way at ALL, but I have no guns I cling to. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #107

Yah well, then you didnt read it too objectivly at all. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #110

lol, I just want it better fucking REGULATED, dude. That's my fucking 'problem'. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #112

I have a problem with the name calling, " dude ". darkangel218 Dec 2012 #115

I see. I didn't realize gun owners were such delicate flowers whose feelings are hurt so easily PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #120

Ahh so now youre implying we're listening to right wing media and the NRA?? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #123

Only if you totally refuse to budge on gun control. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #125

Youre throwing insults left and right just like the OP, but claim you want a serious discussion darkangel218 Dec 2012 #127

WTF? You're fucking paranoid. I've thrown no insults. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #128

Oh you havent? just read your last few posts to me again. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #132

Study: Carrying a gun can make you more paranoid PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #133

Gun owners hAVE budged, LOTS of inches. beevul Dec 2012 #147

It depends. Are those "Rightful" gun owners determined to hold onto their assault weapons? Savannahmann Dec 2012 #102

Where is the OP refering only to assault weapons? darkangel218 Dec 2012 #106

I agree. Semi automatic weapons have no place in a civilized society. Initech Dec 2012 #103

You do not get to define "progressive" for anyone but yourself. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #113

This ^^^ is one of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #116

+1 darkangel218 Dec 2012 #118

What the fuck does abortion have to do with RBKA? REP Dec 2012 #114

+1,000 + a gazillion. DainBramaged Dec 2012 #124

I'm so tired of people trying to define what a progressive is and isn't. Th1onein Dec 2012 #134

lol. of course you are. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #135

Finally we learn who defines "progressive" OmahaBlueDog Dec 2012 #137

Maybe if you would grow up people would pay attention to your posts rl6214 Dec 2012 #139

Big man - willing to back that up? Taverner Dec 2012 #142

What are you going to do...beat me up after school rl6214 Dec 2012 #144

I don't see why it's an either/or. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #141

+1 darkangel218 Dec 2012 #143

Better watch out...the op will ask you if you are willing to back that up rl6214 Dec 2012 #145

Whoa..."value life" really? When did you go vegan, Tav? flvegan Dec 2012 #146