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Coyotl

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5. When is a settler an invader? When they lack permission to occupy another nation's land.

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:12 PM

Dec 2012

The Dakota Nations did not give permission to the Europeans to invade.

If your relatives died, that was because they were invading another country. Lesson should be, don't do that.

Meanwhile, the Natives have been living in concentration camps for over a century due to force of superior arms. Their country is now occupied by the invaders, and NO effort at reconciliation has yet been even so much as mentioned, ttbomk.

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150 years ago...from the Dakota War of 1862....we remember this... [View all] Evasporque Dec 2012 OP

K&R. nt raccoon Dec 2012 #1

innocent men? That's not what Dee Brown said. hfojvt Dec 2012 #2

because your 3 relatives are a tragedy, but 34 indians aren't? what? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #3

my three sons are just part of the 300 to 800 who are expected to remain nameless hfojvt Dec 2012 #26

neither were your ancestors. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #27

You do realize that the white man was the invader onto their lands? RC Dec 2012 #4

for 7,000 people to own 24 million acres hfojvt Dec 2012 #29

When is a settler an invader? When they lack permission to occupy another nation's land. Coyotl Dec 2012 #5

there is no ownership in nature hfojvt Dec 2012 #25

WOW! You sure are an apologist for the European genocide. Coyotl Dec 2012 #36

this is the most ridiculous argument i may have ever seen on this website...a real duzy spanone Dec 2012 #46

and yours is not even an argument hfojvt Dec 2012 #48

I'm guessing the Sioux weren't all that thrilled with your ancestors TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #6

yet they signed a couple of treaties allowing it in 1851 hfojvt Dec 2012 #32

Look at the whole picture. The plains tribes were being TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #34

Yes, let's "wipe these untamed and untamable creatures from the face of the earth" progressoid Dec 2012 #7

yes, let's hfojvt Dec 2012 #30

Wow, let 100s of outsiders show up on your property and try to run you off and see how you react! Logical Dec 2012 #8

"settlers" by another name are called "occupiers." Still occupy the land. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #23

And so it continues Scootaloo Dec 2012 #33

Yes...lets defend genocide horsedoc Dec 2012 #44

The Irony here Unca Jim Dec 2012 #9

on both sides....we ignored the treaties, drove them off lands, and murdered.... Evasporque Dec 2012 #11

The US is still operating the same way all around the world. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #19

History is written by those who have hanged heroes. tblue Dec 2012 #22

War and enslavement is pretty much the history of the entire world since history has been kept. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #28

A heart felt documentary commemorating this tragedy yellerpup Dec 2012 #10

Thanks for posting this yellerpup! CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #12

Osiyo, CAV! yellerpup Dec 2012 #13

I just bought that video for my son riverwalker Dec 2012 #14

I found it incredibly moving. yellerpup Dec 2012 #18

Thanks. Will watch this later. progressoid Dec 2012 #15

That film had me crying. RebelOne Dec 2012 #35

Jim Miller's dream led him on a quest for forgiveness yellerpup Dec 2012 #37

Thank you so much for posting this documentary, yellerpup... Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #38

There are so many untold stories yellerpup Dec 2012 #39

The "Eagle Project" sounds like a long over-due initiative... Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #40

The Yellow Robe book yellerpup Dec 2012 #42

38+2 SamKnause Dec 2012 #43

My pleasure to share it with you. yellerpup Dec 2012 #45

When my ancestors came to Plymouth Plantation ... Vox Moi Dec 2012 #16

my GGGrandfather may have been involved (jeez I hope not!) Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #17

George FAUBEL, b. 1834 d. 1915 Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #47

I have been in Mankato and had no idea about this tragedy jonthebru Dec 2012 #20

Whaa? Americans AREN'T perfect? bobclark86 Dec 2012 #21

k&r G_j Dec 2012 #24

Search for the #IdleNoMore hashtag on Twitter to witness the North American First Nations uprising! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #31

The most shameful event in the history of my state. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #41