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beerandjesus

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14. Agreed. Democrats still have trouble acting like they want to win elections....
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
Dec 2012

...let alone political battles.

This is like blaming Nader for Florida in 2000. Gore ran a terrible campaign, as did Kerry in 2004--and both those guys should have been fantastic candidates. And let's not even get started on Martha Coakley, and the wonderful legacy her entitled campaigning style has left us.

The country needs an FDR, but Obama wants to be Bill Clinton. That's too bad for those of us who would like casual voters to be inspired to elect Democratic majorities....

Yes it does!!! newfie11 Dec 2012 #1
Rec grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #2
MUCH of what you have here IS on the agenda, however, like it or not, here is the REALITY: RBInMaine Dec 2012 #3
Some people have morals and ethics and believe what they were taught in Civics Class. Workers and byeya Dec 2012 #8
I'm not sure it was the "progressives" that stayed home? kentuck Dec 2012 #9
IIRC, it was angry independents breaking massively for Republicans and young Obama voters MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #15
You trust that you got accurate information about who stayed home and why? merrily Dec 2012 #53
That's what polling is for? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #56
I am not sure either. I suspect that it was the occasional voter who believed(as did I) the byeya Dec 2012 #18
It was actually older voters that stayed home in 2010. I wonder why what with putting SS Vincardog Dec 2012 #85
Agreed. Democrats still have trouble acting like they want to win elections.... beerandjesus Dec 2012 #14
President Obama is no Bill Clinton~~ LovingA2andMI Dec 2012 #120
Not true either. Clinton caved on all of the most impactful bills of the 90s that are crushing us MessiahRp Dec 2012 #129
Get a grip MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #10
The governing strategy of W Bush was an atrocity per day...That way you'd get a news story one day byeya Dec 2012 #20
Like LBJ, FDR, Lincoln, and all effective politicians MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #21
Some of us would have been more likely to show up... Chan790 Dec 2012 #26
+10 SHRED Dec 2012 #73
+1 CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #40
That's a cheap shot, and a damned lie to boot. pscot Dec 2012 #127
If this is not the reality you want daybranch Dec 2012 #45
oh bull hfojvt Dec 2012 #46
The Democratic Party's 21st Century Slogan: "We Suck Less." CrispyQ Dec 2012 #58
exactly liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #59
I don't take seriously ANYONE who stayed home in 2010. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #67
It was Independents who stayed home. Progressives thankfully sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #89
I don't KNOW any progressives who stayed home Doctor_J Dec 2012 #105
I find your post to be divisive and antagonistic. What is your goal here? rhett o rick Dec 2012 #68
Good questions. kentuck Dec 2012 #82
not defending RB... druidity33 Dec 2012 #130
I understand. But there is a huge difference between being covered in general by the rhett o rick Dec 2012 #133
Funding Big War while starving seniors is hardly 'bitching over the perfect'. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #71
"Fire up" the electorate by putting Social Security "on the table". Great move. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #117
Now this deserves to be an OP. great white snark Dec 2012 #76
That is the LAMEST and Most Pathetic of all the Loser Excuses, bvar22 Dec 2012 #83
Excellent post once again, Bvar. And I love that quote from Truman. We are in sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #109
I have no use for those types of weak-kneed Democrats... kentuck Dec 2012 #118
Me neither and from I'm seeing all over the country, we are not alone and the loss sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #119
Damn! That was well said! kentuck Dec 2012 #116
As always Bvar, dflprincess Dec 2012 #122
Progressives did NOT stay home in 2010!! Why is this false meme still being sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #88
The right-wing Dems are just like Repukes - lie, lie, lie Doctor_J Dec 2012 #106
Here is REALITY (my caps lock works, too). Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #92
the "teaLEFTISTS" voted in 2010. the sensible centrists stayed home.. frylock Dec 2012 #93
You are right. Here the Democrats cooperate with the Repubs jtuck004 Dec 2012 #98
Two lies in one post Doctor_J Dec 2012 #104
Instead of getting the hell out and vote, how about... Hotler Dec 2012 #111
Pure tripe. Political issue junkies never, under any circumstances, fail to vote eridani Dec 2012 #114
Democrats failed to deliver. kentuck Dec 2012 #4
Same for me the second time. I did not make a mistake. The plethoro Dec 2012 #28
Same with me: the 2nd time was because Romney was so completely awful. TR-Square Deal; byeya Dec 2012 #5
Obama - Mis-Deal Kolesar Dec 2012 #16
Romney was more moderate than most, so you will always "hold your nose" and vote merrily Dec 2012 #51
20 years of triangulation as the sole Democratic strategy MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #6
The Democratic Party's "vision for the future" can be found here - thirdway.org Dragonfli Dec 2012 #7
"The Democratic party has become an annex to the Republican party, " Kolesar Dec 2012 #17
I am glad you are finally observing policy rather than personality Dragonfli Dec 2012 #23
I agree with you 100% kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #90
+1000 dflprincess Dec 2012 #124
+100000 Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #11
Important Post. It's a disturbingly familiar set of policies. woo me with science Dec 2012 #12
Great post! Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #34
+1 octoberlib Dec 2012 #78
It's a good question. theaocp Dec 2012 #13
Not only does Obama fill-in-the-blanks FOR republican spending cuts,... Kolesar Dec 2012 #19
I agree with a post I read earlier loyalkydem Dec 2012 #22
Don't blame progressives Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #29
+1000000 liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #72
Sorry I disagree with you loyalkydem Dec 2012 #86
I'd say that's a given...and you don't see the issue. Chan790 Dec 2012 #30
One slight difference. Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #42
Welcome to DU. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #94
I complain AND vote thank you very much. progressoid Dec 2012 #37
progressives didn't stay home in 2010 ffs frylock Dec 2012 #97
Oh yes they did loyalkydem Dec 2012 #132
then FUCKING prove it.. frylock Dec 2012 #134
They hated Obamacare more than they hated the neocons, so the centrists stayed home Kolesar Dec 2012 #135
Now, now, frylock. bvar22 Dec 2012 #136
Right wing Dems ALWAYS blame other Dems Doctor_J Dec 2012 #107
My opinion: this is the most important thread on DU right now Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #24
Ouch! kentuck Dec 2012 #27
Excellent post. It becomes increasingly apparent who plethoro Dec 2012 #31
+1000000000 woo me with science Dec 2012 #66
Where the proposals are Recursion Dec 2012 #75
Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #81
Same here - AND I voted in 2010 Doctor_J Dec 2012 #108
+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #110
I'm with you liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #123
obama has no excuse arely staircase Dec 2012 #25
Kick and Rec! Fuddnik Dec 2012 #32
obama mcgarry50 Dec 2012 #33
add k-12 education to that list liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #35
Compulsory public education is right! Although Americans bewail the state of public education, byeya Dec 2012 #41
we're not allowed to get a glimpse of what a great education would look like liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #44
In the program I was in, many graduates went as sophmores to places like MIT, CalTech and other byeya Dec 2012 #62
in the program you were in liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #65
The school I went to, the Baltimore Polytechnic Inst., had three programs: A, B and G. The B was byeya Dec 2012 #74
One of the main problems I see with the democratic party today is the RKP5637 Dec 2012 #36
Well said ybbor Dec 2012 #38
The bigger question for me fredamae Dec 2012 #39
Very well said. Until we figure out what is wrong we are lost. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #52
Well stated... fredamae Dec 2012 #57
you are absolutely correct liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #61
Beautiful 12AngryBorneoWildmen Dec 2012 #43
Don't mourn, organize. Left Turn Only Dec 2012 #47
I agree liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #49
I want liberal candidates, not progressive candidates. merrily Dec 2012 #50
Sure they would Left Turn Only Dec 2012 #63
that's what they use to say about a black president liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #69
Vision for the future? That's why God made Democratic think tanks, such as Third Way and merrily Dec 2012 #48
Maybe that isn't Obama's vision because it certainly isn't what he campaigned on. dkf Dec 2012 #54
He also didn't campaign on giving Boehner 1/2 of whatever he wants. bvar22 Dec 2012 #84
Thanks Shred raindaddy Dec 2012 #55
Obama ran on Hope and CHANGE Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #60
Superb posts in this thread. woo me with science Dec 2012 #70
I love how you cut to the chase SHRED Dec 2012 #77
Huge K&R. I agree with Demo_Chris above that woo me with science Dec 2012 #64
du rec. nt xchrom Dec 2012 #79
K&R. Deserving of a top post? Absolutely! AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #80
So When is our next best chance at taking control? YOHABLO Dec 2012 #87
The South is going to be a problem we need to take over state houses in the south...... loyalkydem Dec 2012 #91
It might seem an impossibility in my state of Georgia but ... YOHABLO Dec 2012 #96
Seriously? former_con Dec 2012 #100
Hell yes! JEB Dec 2012 #95
BINGO former_con Dec 2012 #99
Democratic Vision = purify the party by kicking the gun owners out. L0oniX Dec 2012 #101
K&R abelenkpe Dec 2012 #102
Allow me to add a few Doctor_J Dec 2012 #103
Thank you. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #112
kick. very good limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #113
It should be the vision of the Progressive Caucus spedtr90 Dec 2012 #115
The DLC/Third Way/"New DEM" Party: Soulless and Corrupt. blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #121
Just tweeted this superb OP & thread to @whitehouse @NancyPelosi & @SenatorReid tpsbmam Dec 2012 #125
you are very welcome SHRED Dec 2012 #126
I don't agree with all of this, but standing for something besides post-partisan corporate toadying yurbud Dec 2012 #128
Sorry, we have no "visions" today. We will get back to you. Safetykitten Dec 2012 #131
It's almost heresy to talk about "vision"... kentuck Dec 2012 #137
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