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ProgressiveProfessor

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20. I agree with NICS checks for all transfers

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:54 PM

Dec 2012

My concern is places like DC that make it impossible for FFLs to do business. If there were plentiful FFLs in all areas to provide competition for the service, I could go with that. I would prefer a pre investigation that is verified at time of purchase. Simpler and cheaper in many ways.

Mixed feelings about waiting periods. New gun owners, sure. If you already have some, not so much. In the end I could see a 1 week universal waiting period.

Its not clear how Mary Lanza secured her weapons, and I am curious about that. A locked case is much easier to get into than a safe. Not sure we will know those kind of details. The crime is solved, the guilty dead. Despite my and many others curiosity, there is no real justification in digging deeper unless the police believe that there were others involved.

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How did a convicted killer get guns? [View all] LynneSin Dec 2012 OP

A little lost .. Who are you talking about? Denninmi Dec 2012 #1

Probably the guy who shot several firemen this morning. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #2

yep - he was a convicted killer LynneSin Dec 2012 #3

Sorry, I only heard the headline. Denninmi Dec 2012 #4

Same ways they all do. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #5

Title wrong - I believed the media>>>>>>He was barely out of jail ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #13

Agree with you about security. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #15

I agree with NICS checks for all transfers ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #20

Inre Lanza's locked case: HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #22

Spengler was released in 1998 his Max Expiration parole date was 2006... Historic NY Dec 2012 #53

Quite Correct ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #57

Wasn't the law changed that that you could get a gun 5 years after.... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #6

No. slackmaster Dec 2012 #8

Yes nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #44

Yes... nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #43

Thanks. I had found that after I saw the no. Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #50

I just get tired of gunnies denying reality. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #51

How does that square with CURRENT federal law? beevul Dec 2012 #54

He was released from prison prematurely slackmaster Dec 2012 #7

and thed for best response Carolina Dec 2012 #35

Easy. He hands his friend money, his friend buys guns, hands it to him The Straight Story Dec 2012 #9

Now you *do have laws against that... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #37

Lots of guns are sold on the street SummerSnow Dec 2012 #10

Good question! In_The_Wind Dec 2012 #11

Because it's TOO EASY to get guns. And there are too many guns. nt Lex Dec 2012 #12

Criminals do not obey laws. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #14

Same way people get drugs. It's easy. TeeYiYi Dec 2012 #16

You cant buy drugs at a drug show... AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #26

You've obviously never been to Sursum Corda? Recursion Dec 2012 #31

The "gun show loophole" AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #32

But why bring up gun shows? Recursion Dec 2012 #68

Right, thats why it is called AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #71

Yes, it really has nothing to do with gun shows Recursion Dec 2012 #72

Oh, is that the reason? AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #75

It has nothing to do with gun *shows* Recursion Dec 2012 #77

You have spun yourself into a pretzel AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #80

Seriously. I really think you don't understand this. Recursion Dec 2012 #81

He could have gone to nearly any gun show and bought one no questions asked RomneyLies Dec 2012 #17

Depends on the state ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #23

Not sure how we can stop people from obtaining guns. Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #18

There are already minimum sentences with teeth... HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #24

Illegally. Recursion Dec 2012 #19

Or he bought it at a gun show AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #25

When are you anti gunners going to stop wetting yourselves over "gun shows"? guardian Dec 2012 #27

I pointed out a simple fact AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #29

I've had more intelligent conversations guardian Dec 2012 #30

Translation AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #33

You are wrong. former9thward Dec 2012 #36

Dont need ID to buy used guns at a gunshow AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #39

You don't know the laws of NY. former9thward Dec 2012 #41

Not true according to the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence hack89 Dec 2012 #46

So, 9 states out of 50 require background checks at gunshows, leaving 41 not requiring ... kwassa Dec 2012 #47

Only for private sales hack89 Dec 2012 #48

One of those private sales resulted in an abuser getting a gun, killing his wife & 2 others, PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #55

How? hack89 Dec 2012 #58

Private intrastate sales should not be a state matter, obviously. They should be federally regulated kwassa Dec 2012 #61

That would be stretching the commerce clause beyond recognition hack89 Dec 2012 #65

who is yammering? This is my first post on the subject. kwassa Dec 2012 #60

I apologize hack89 Dec 2012 #66

NY has no "gun show loophole" bobclark86 Dec 2012 #38

Yes AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #40

That has been illegal since 1968. former9thward Dec 2012 #45

They can sell any guns but handguns AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #63

Only to NJ residents Recursion Dec 2012 #73

New Jersey? Really? beevul Dec 2012 #56

Yes AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #62

I'm pretty sure NJ doesn't allow private sales without permit and background check. N/T beevul Dec 2012 #64

I have taken guns to gun shows to have dealers appraise them, doc03 Dec 2012 #79

Fuck the NRA johnnie Dec 2012 #21

Illegally slackmaster Dec 2012 #28

From "law-abiding gun owners" of course. baldguy Dec 2012 #34

WHY was a man who beat his grandmother to death with a hammer out of prison Raine Dec 2012 #42

Thank you for stating the obvious! lynne Dec 2012 #70

$5 says the guns will not be traced ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #49

FEDS trace Spengler's guns.......... Historic NY Dec 2012 #59

Sweet. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #67

How was he going to practice target shooting? MichiganVote Dec 2012 #52

Woman Helped Firefighters’ Killer Get Gun He Used in Ambush, Police Say spanone Dec 2012 #69

She should serve any sentence that Spengler would have gotten... Blue_Tires Dec 2012 #74

He had a young woman buy them, saying they were for herself Marrah_G Dec 2012 #76

Piece of cake, look in the classifieds for guns, bulletin boards at stores, doc03 Dec 2012 #78