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In reply to the discussion: I am an Anarchist. Not a "Libertarian" or a "Galtist" but an Anarchist. [View all]renie408
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I have to go make pancakes, so this is a quick answer.
My position is that human nature will not allow something like what you are describing to survive for long. The lack of structure itself makes it hard to defend and eventually, given the number of us crammed on here, somebody is likely to look over and want what you have. Besides,I would guess that internal strife might also tend to rear it's ugly head. Yeah, you could expel those that do not work and play well with others, but you are still going to have a hard time keeping that kind of 'system' working.
I have not said it was not admirable, simply impractical. You have no idea where I am coming from because you started with the premise that I was ignorant and unenlightened and have never looked any further.
I have not made an argument. YOU are the one with the rigid position you are attempting (seriously poorly) to defend. I get that you think you are all that and a bag of chips, enlightened and superior, but so far that is the only thing you have managed to impart with any persuasion.
I am supposed to be putting my boots on and in the egalitarian system of our house, if I get busted on the computer, I am going to get yelled at. But, I wanted to throw in here that (theoretically) in the current democratic system we have, it is the duty of government to regulate corporations. Your disdainful cynicism aside, I believe that given all the information a democratic society will create rules and elect leaders who will act in their best interests in the long run. It is messy and it is flawed, but I believe that it works. I am not un-idealistic. I believe that what was initially set up in this country is a good, working governing model. I do concede that it is currently not working quite as well as I would like. But I also believe that the best way to fix it is from within.
You said somewhere that you are participating as little as possible in this society. You have passionately stated that we are morally responsible to move toward the anarchist ideal you espouse. What are you doing to promote that and what form does your lack of participation take? Do you pay taxes? Do you get your car plated and have a driver's license? Do you obey stated laws where applicable? If the sole form of your lack of participation is a refusal to vote...what good is that doing? (I am assuming you don't vote, if I am wrong, sorry)
Here's the deal....you may feel that your position is the right one, supported fully by some moral imperative. You may feel that your ideals make you superior to me. But in the end, it takes a practical person to implement ideals. At some point, if you really believe all this stuff, you are going to have to start walking the walk and not just talking the talk. And in the meantime, you might try not pissing on every person that does not share your beliefs. Because the other thing a movement needs is members. Driving everyone away who isn't just like you isn't exactly a brilliant way to start.