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patrice

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13. You see, those of us who have chosen not to carry would like to preserve for ourselves only the
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:56 PM
Dec 2012

basis of those decisions. I want to be able to decide for me only whether I want to be around people who are carrying guns.

Now, people who have decided to carry guns are recognizing the rights of others to carry guns and all that that entails, so you should be able to live responsibly with the consequences, including the bad guys because if you made your decision to carry ir-respective of that possibility that was not a responsible decision. Freedom is not about there being NO consequences; it's about being able to recognize consequences and make your choices about them, so you claim your right to carry and its consequences and another aspect of freedom is that you don't inflict your consequences on others, advocates of carrying guns in public should not prevent the possibility for me to make my own choices about that by concealing their weapons (not to mention how concealed carry ENABLES all kinds of illegal gun behavior, so it mixes bad guys with the good guys). If gun advocates NEED that, then they are slaves of a type to a privilege, not a right, a privilege that they have not earned.

I cannot understand why any honest gun advocate would fight OPEN CARRY. It's like, this thing is patrice Dec 2012 #1
I don't understand it myself. LAGC Dec 2012 #2
Oh, I get it Scootaloo Dec 2012 #6
You see, those of us who have chosen not to carry would like to preserve for ourselves only the patrice Dec 2012 #13
BTW, doesn't the argument that the bad guy is going to target you first NEGATE the whole "reason" patrice Dec 2012 #16
It all depends on who gets the drop on who first. LAGC Dec 2012 #17
If you're not actively on the way to a sporting event, or hunting, why do you need to pack heat? backscatter712 Dec 2012 #5
Personally, I prefer people carry openly than concealed Recursion Dec 2012 #7
didn't a thread with a similar message get tombstoned earlier? i'll say what i said on that thread: HiPointDem Dec 2012 #3
I'm starting to smell a lot of desperation from the gun creeps quinnox Dec 2012 #4
CORRECT Skittles Dec 2012 #10
Excellent points, don't go to DU's Justice & Public Safety » Gun Control & RKBA (Group) unless you jody Dec 2012 #8
still getting asked to define GUN NUT Skittles Dec 2012 #9
yeah be careful of those NRA types...all none of them. ileus Dec 2012 #11
Dear Santa, all I want for Christmas is for gun threads to be located in GC&RKBA. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #12
If you get your wish, then many anti-gun DUers will remain ignorant and jody Dec 2012 #14
how hard is it to find GC&RKBA? that they choose to remain willfully ignorant is their problem. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #15
Tell me about it. They are out in force now Whovian Dec 2012 #18
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