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pipoman

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18. The mandate would have to come at the state level..

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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:20 AM

Dec 2012

the feds don't have the authority to make such a mandate.

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Gun Pandemonium as No Background Needed for Web Sales [View all] marmar Dec 2012 OP

It sounds like they're obeying the law, actually NickB79 Dec 2012 #1

That's why it is called a "loophole" jberryhill Dec 2012 #5

Then the "loophole" is oft referred to as "the commerce clause".. pipoman Dec 2012 #12

Not since Wickard v. Fillburn jberryhill Dec 2012 #15

A narrow decision which has no bearing on the pipoman Dec 2012 #17

When 40% of the market is "gun shows" jberryhill Dec 2012 #19

Any link to the 40% stat? pipoman Dec 2012 #22

Lol... jberryhill Dec 2012 #23

Completely False.. pipoman Dec 2012 #39

Yeah.... jberryhill Dec 2012 #40

Actually it isn't pipoman Dec 2012 #48

Solution: Open up the NICS to non-FFLs bossy22 Dec 2012 #2

The mandate would have to come at the state level.. pipoman Dec 2012 #18

Oh yes they do - and this is a great idea jpak Dec 2012 #27

They don't now because of that pesky commerce clause...but you know that.. pipoman Dec 2012 #36

Congress has the power to regulate commerce between states jpak Dec 2012 #45

When we are talking about commerce between the states pipoman Dec 2012 #46

Those guns didn't get to PA on the Star Trek transporter jberryhill Dec 2012 #30

And they were subject to NICS when purchased new. pipoman Dec 2012 #37

Fine. Install checks at the on ramps of interstate highways. jberryhill Dec 2012 #42

You don't seem to understand.. pipoman Dec 2012 #49

How many courses in Constitutional Law did you pass? jberryhill Dec 2012 #50

..done pipoman Dec 2012 #54

As a gun owner, I personally would never buy anything used from anyone. That said, shadowrider Dec 2012 #28

I agree...it just can't be federally mandated. pipoman Dec 2012 #38

More hyperbole and falsehoods from the Brady Bunch ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #3

on the contrary, the Brady Foundation does excellent work samsingh Dec 2012 #8

Nor does the first amendment.. pipoman Dec 2012 #13

Go ahead, advertise cigarettes jberryhill Dec 2012 #20

have you talked to fox news? samsingh Dec 2012 #24

Just Another Sterling And Compelling Reason To Ban All Firearms In America cantbeserious Dec 2012 #4

or control them more closely - and start a gun tax to pay for the hiring of extra policing samsingh Dec 2012 #9

I Am Past Half Measures Personally - I Think America Needs To Become A Gun Free Society cantbeserious Dec 2012 #11

i just want gun related deaths to be dramatically reduced samsingh Dec 2012 #25

Do a search for "home defense" or "bang" on Craigslist n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #6

straw purchasers should be put under the jail. NightWatcher Dec 2012 #7

i think shooting someone with the guns is the crime - i think the guns should be taxed to pay for samsingh Dec 2012 #10

It can also be legal self defense ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #52

not sure any of the massacres we're trying to stop with extra police are examples of self defense samsingh Dec 2012 #56

If it's sold within state it's legal for a long gun in most states former-republican Dec 2012 #21

You are really missing the point jberryhill Dec 2012 #31

Silliness pipoman Dec 2012 #14

Make it a felony to transport guns across state lines for "private sales" without background checks jpak Dec 2012 #29

It is already a federal crime pipoman Dec 2012 #34

How did the guns get to PA? jberryhill Dec 2012 #32

All new guns require a NICS check. pipoman Dec 2012 #35

That is irrelevant to whether they are items in interstate commerce jberryhill Dec 2012 #41

I think what you're missing here is... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2012 #43

Try that with a pack of cigarettes. jberryhill Dec 2012 #44

Go ahead and pretend pipoman Dec 2012 #47

Let's see? Jarts? Private sale of legal property 100% regulated... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #51

..I wish I may, I wish I might... pipoman Dec 2012 #53

Ah, and so "can't" morphs into "won't". TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #55

That's the going price right now for AR's former-republican Dec 2012 #16

Online sales only avoid background checks if they're completed face-to-face... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #26

My suggestion on guns. Let people have what they want provided they register them JDPriestly Dec 2012 #33