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TDale313

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49. Exactly.

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:54 PM

Dec 2012

And yes, of course he's all of our president. And I'm incredibly proud of that fact. But I'm also willing to "hold his feet to the fire"

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Nth dimentional chess, poker or whatever I don't give a f*** That is NOT the point [View all] Drew Richards Dec 2012 OP

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #1

agreed Another McIntosh. roguevalley Dec 2012 #90

They would have us believe Obama was playing a game. Autumn Dec 2012 #2

K&R COLGATE4 Dec 2012 #7

Wish I could rec your post. DireStrike Dec 2012 #13

thx Drew Richards Dec 2012 #3

You are correct, however, the truth is it was put on the table because still_one Dec 2012 #4

and it is still a third way compromise that has nothing to do with the current Drew Richards Dec 2012 #6

You are so right, and the solution is so simple still_one Dec 2012 #36

Where the bargaining should have started abelenkpe Dec 2012 #46

In many ways... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #52

Better he cut funding for education, transportation... TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #5

Am I to understand that you believe this is an absolute? Drew Richards Dec 2012 #8

Nothing is absolute, but we're not voting anyone in for... TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #16

I wish I did have a viable solution that could pass...but since Drew Richards Dec 2012 #22

This is why democrats needed and need to win back the house. Nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #47

It's called "big boy politics"....get used to it or be perpetually angry about everything. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #9

And here I thought frustrated_lefty Dec 2012 #17

Excellent response! n/t truedelphi Dec 2012 #28

Maybe that's why you're "frustrated". nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #33

Maybe Obama should look for savings outside the "entitlements." amandabeech Dec 2012 #54

Because the President never announces defense cuts?..... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #59

Both your quotes predate the current negotiations. amandabeech Dec 2012 #67

I don't recall that being the question I answered. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #73

But this thread pertains to the immediate budget problem that must amandabeech Dec 2012 #75

Except he wants 'entitlements' to pay down the deficit. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #102

Thank you, well said idwiyo Dec 2012 #51

kind of like the Washington definition of courage: screwing the poor and middle class yurbud Dec 2012 #80

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #82

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #91

No, it's called republicans ideas win whether or not they control the White House or yurbud Dec 2012 #78

Meanwhile, John Boehner lays weeping in a pool of his own sick. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #10

Yes. Any other take is simply disingenuous bullshit. DirkGently Dec 2012 #11

"Neither is excusable." woo me with science Dec 2012 #15

Yes! Not one penny of SS comes from the government--it comes from payments into savannah43 Dec 2012 #50

Sweetheart. The money coming from the gub'mint is money owed to S.S. jerseyjack Dec 2012 #98

"the only sane reaction to it is relentless opposition." Absolutely. He's going to keep pushing AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #83

The info on specific tax loopholes etc alone is worth R'ing this OP. Thanks n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #12

AND he used it as a hostage to ensure an austerity deal, woo me with science Dec 2012 #14

Quit your frothing and settle down before you blow an artery. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2012 #18

Playing a game with senior citizens, the poor, the disabled is a pretty inhumane game especially jillan Dec 2012 #19

+ 1 TDale313 Dec 2012 #43

Well, I'm a senior citizen (not yet eligible for Social Security) and we're getting food stamps.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #62

yep heaven05 Dec 2012 #95

Thank you. TDale313 Dec 2012 #20

It's also nice to put that fear into the lives of those who rely on SS. savannah43 Dec 2012 #48

Exactly. TDale313 Dec 2012 #49

we heaven05 Dec 2012 #21

The hell I will. TDale313 Dec 2012 #24

my point heaven05 Dec 2012 #25

You have no idea TDale313 Dec 2012 #30

well heaven05 Dec 2012 #65

I genuinely hope you're right. TDale313 Dec 2012 #71

hey heaven05 Dec 2012 #94

No. You ain't fucked yet, but better look for a discount tube of K-Y. jerseyjack Dec 2012 #99

lol heaven05 Dec 2012 #101

You are totally misinterpreting why the Republicans turned down the offer. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #69

Exactly n/t dflprincess Dec 2012 #88

just heaven05 Dec 2012 #93

Once offered and placed on the table, it will always be on the table kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #23

K&R and AMEN MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #26

The Democratic Party Leadership came up with the Idea of using truedelphi Dec 2012 #27

Good one. If it's not chess, then it should be called what it is: savannah43 Dec 2012 #45

I put this post in the category of those always wanting to complain about the President, I'm sick of loyalkydem Dec 2012 #29

That would be a small category leftstreet Dec 2012 #35

You and me both. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2012 #37

Blind sycophants lark Dec 2012 #42

it is the point. and you are missing it pasto76 Dec 2012 #31

You run, you win, you keep anything off the table you like. quaker bill Dec 2012 #32

DURec leftstreet Dec 2012 #34

+1,000,000 me b zola Dec 2012 #38

you are definitely a rightwinger and concern troll stupidicus Dec 2012 #39

SO K & R this OP, I'm sick to death of war, what is it good for? Absolutely, NOTHING. mother earth Dec 2012 #40

I'm with you. If the $1.7 trillion that BushCo borrowed from the SS trust fund savannah43 Dec 2012 #41

They've got to work out a budget somehow treestar Dec 2012 #44

Again, you are not addressing the issue now finally being addressed across sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #61

Thank You! So very well said Drew Richards Dec 2012 #89

K&R. Well said. Thank you. idwiyo Dec 2012 #53

Obama put it on the table because it should be on the table. virtualobserver Dec 2012 #55

Wow! A true believer. savannah43 Dec 2012 #60

I have. virtualobserver Dec 2012 #64

Omg, I can't believe I just that here on DU. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #63

It did not create it. virtualobserver Dec 2012 #66

Means testing is one of the worst ideas regarding this program and to do so sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #68

The problem with social security... virtualobserver Dec 2012 #70

There is no problem with SS. I don't know where you are getting your information sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #72

If they raise the cap, I'll be more comfortable.... virtualobserver Dec 2012 #74

Well, Gore wanted to stop the raiding of the SS Fund by those who want to start sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #76

As soon as means testing is adopted, the Third-Wayers and the Republicans will claim that SS is a AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #85

Yep... K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #92

The day they agree to means-testing people out of SS that they paid into hughee99 Dec 2012 #97

Well, one thing's for sure.... ReRe Dec 2012 #56

K&R forestpath Dec 2012 #57

I never believed that a DEMOCRAT could make me want Reagan back. bvar22 Dec 2012 #58

SS "will NOW be On-the-Table automatically in every single future Budget Negotiation." Absolutely. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #86

"Chess is a game where you sacrifice the pawns to protect the royalty." Speck Tater Dec 2012 #77

Good quote, whoever said it first. n/t TDale313 Dec 2012 #79

This thread? bvar22 Dec 2012 #96

Thank you! Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #81

There are those who the put the love of money above petty morality. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #84

K&R Oilwellian Dec 2012 #87

REC! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #100