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WonderGrunion

(2,995 posts)
11. Here is what I see clearly
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:32 AM
Dec 2012

For the last 4 years, I've been told by the haters on the left that President Obama is going to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and told that there is proof from 'Very Serious Liberal Bloggers' (tm) that it was really really really going to happen this time. It didn't happen. It's not going to happen. It's never going to happen.

Stop pretending the football is ever going to get kicked.

He didn't pull it away-- the GOP just couldn't get their shit together to kick it. Marr Dec 2012 #1
Tell me more about how President Obama is upsetting you WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #3
.. Cha Dec 2012 #6
lol!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #33
Bingo! LOL!! nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #36
That's your best response? Really? Marr Dec 2012 #59
That's because BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #87
I've responded to a lot of these responses WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #94
or Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2012 #29
+1 forestpath Dec 2012 #31
Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #55
Ironic, considering that GOP are a bunch of shit-kickers (cue rim shot :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #68
I don't think so BainsBane Dec 2012 #2
I'm not sure it's still on the table. freedom fighter jh Dec 2012 #7
It was never on the table. Not really. WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #13
You say, "When the deal you offered gets rejected, you are no longer obligated to do everything you AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #75
the accursed payroll tax cut should die hfojvt Dec 2012 #46
Don't you see how the payroll tax holiday customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #83
No, I don't BainsBane Dec 2012 #84
Sorry if that sounds like a standard GOP line to me customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #88
OMG BainsBane Dec 2012 #91
Well, here's some math customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #93
you make good points BainsBane Dec 2012 #95
I apologize for any offense taken customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #99
No problem BainsBane Dec 2012 #100
Eventually, we'll have to think about what to do about securing Social Security's finances. customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #102
This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Dec 2012 #4
Nice. So you guarantee that changed-CPI is 100% off the table! Nice! Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #5
Chained CPI was never on the table WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #10
Nothing like coming to a political discussion forum... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #14
Notice how they want you to prove Unicorns don't exist. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #37
and when 2016 arrives and no cuts... he still wanted them.. but they stopped him! by posting on DU. dionysus Dec 2012 #48
They held his feet to the fire! treestar Dec 2012 #79
Wait... what? What was that about unicorns? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #58
Upside-down bullshit. Marr Dec 2012 #60
No, I just think you're getting jerked around by Republicans Scootaloo Dec 2012 #65
Then why make an offer at all? Marr Dec 2012 #66
You don't need a crystal ball Scootaloo Dec 2012 #69
Don't put words in my mouth, thank you. Marr Dec 2012 #72
Who said anything about omniscience? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #78
Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #81
I sometimes wonder if some of the Obama-haters are actually right-wingers who delight in.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #41
Could be, but I would imagine that CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #98
So Nancy Pelosi and Hoyer and the Congressional Caucus were imaging things? sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #51
It can't be off the table permanently, because woo me with science Dec 2012 #54
What happens if he "sets up the target" and they accept his deal? freedom fighter jh Dec 2012 #8
Because Simpson Bowles never resulted in Social Security cuts WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #12
YUP ... this is about the 6th or 7th hair-on-fire session on this exact topic. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #38
okay, just back up a second hfojvt Dec 2012 #52
It seems that your logic boils down to customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #86
Sometimes I really wish the cheerleaders and fanboys would Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #9
Here is what I see clearly WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #11
I do not hate nor do I like Pres Obama Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #15
President Obama made one speech supporting single payer while a state legislator WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #16
Those programs exist, the GOP hates them, therefore, they are always on the table. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #39
Respectfully, this OP is nonsense Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #17
Obama didn't lie to us. WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #19
"his word means bloody little to him" - perfect description in 7 words. forestpath Dec 2012 #32
Have you ever played poker? Do you understand the concept of a 'bluff'? Did you know that coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #70
So you consider it good politics to "bluff" with peoples lives? SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #92
Speaking of poker... Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #96
Oh shit son MFrohike Dec 2012 #97
Compare the president to a mean spirited trickster...and then tell me how much HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #18
I'm a mean spirited Democrat WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #20
I'm glad can you see what you want to see. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #21
Its the rose colored glasses Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #23
Reality is not rose colored glasses. tridim Dec 2012 #26
At best it's a game of chicken Fumesucker Dec 2012 #22
He has no skin in the game so to speak Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #24
Well said customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #90
And if Boehner had come up with the votes? TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #25
That's kind of a wingnut tricksy thing - djean111 Dec 2012 #27
Well said. Anytime you hear Obama talking about cutting the deficit, like he did yesterday, forestpath Dec 2012 #34
Of all the things to be pissed about over the past 25 years of my life... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #28
None so blind as those who will not see... nt COLGATE4 Dec 2012 #30
It's risking seniors' well being in the future in an attmpt to protect most people now Orangepeel Dec 2012 #35
SS cuts should be absolutely OFF THE TABLE tabasco Dec 2012 #40
So your basic premise is... 99Forever Dec 2012 #42
That is what it sounds like to me also... kentuck Dec 2012 #49
+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #50
Indeed Oilwellian Dec 2012 #62
Obama is too smart and strong of a man to play games, even this one. Autumn Dec 2012 #43
As long as the debt ceiling was attached to chained cpi WonderGrunion Dec 2012 #44
Of course. But they could have accepted it. Obama had to have been prepared for them to. Autumn Dec 2012 #45
Oh yes, I forgot-- he's omniscient. Marr Dec 2012 #67
I was starting to doubt, until I read the WSJ article this morning democrattotheend Dec 2012 #47
What bugs me about Obama and SS AndyA Dec 2012 #53
If Obama was bluffing, it was a dangerous way to bluff duffyduff Dec 2012 #56
Have you played much poker? Obama knew the GOP could not call his bluff (because coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #73
I have not played all that much poker, but from what I understand gambling with Grandma's Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #85
Somehow the poker and bluffing metaphors are being misused and abused in this coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #89
Soc Sec Trust Fund, FAQ's - pinto Dec 2012 #80
Why is hating SS cuts (and the offering of SS cuts) equated with hating Obama? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #57
I don't even care why, Obama is a temporary steward and SS will be critical in our lives TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #61
Truth, right there Autumn Dec 2012 #63
To make it about the team, not the policies, woo me with science Dec 2012 #64
Your OP notwithstanding, I'd still hate to find myself in a game of poker with Obama. I'm coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #71
IMO, the internationalists who carry the Democratic banner after being elected by us are going AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #74
Everyone should prepare to go into the streets for real to protect Social Security WHENEVER it is patrice Dec 2012 #76
I'm just not sure... TDale313 Dec 2012 #77
I'll believe it when they refuse to do anything this session and then make and back Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #82
I get called an Obamabot a lot DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #101
Actually, it's more like this: JackRiddler Dec 2012 #103
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