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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. Standard training is double tap center of mass and reevaluate.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:46 PM
Dec 2012

By the time that happens cop or teacher is dead.

Shoot him in the face? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #1
Sure, you could try that. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #2
The OP asked how it could be done. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #12
Zimmerman was a coward too.And a member of a security force when he shot & killed Mr. Martin graham4anything Dec 2012 #30
I think we've gone off the rails here. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #33
By suggesting armed guards at all schools Hugabear Dec 2012 #39
I didn't suggest anything. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #57
I don't think that there are enough "real pros" to place an armed guard in every single school. yardwork Dec 2012 #69
I agree with that. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #75
Why do people forget that, I wonder jmowreader Dec 2012 #55
Zimmy wasn't funny. He killed an unarmed man. graham4anything Dec 2012 #92
I must point out three things here jmowreader Dec 2012 #124
We do not know his motivation for stopping the exboyfil Dec 2012 #112
I don't want this. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #133
Who pays for training and arming thucythucy Dec 2012 #128
Ideally it would be the government. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #132
My husband was a cop for a dozen years and my dad MANative Dec 2012 #23
Hell, if a few kids or teachers get killed, it's worth it, right? randome Dec 2012 #27
as opposed to 20 some kids and teachers being killed dlwickham Dec 2012 #43
Except for the teacher who kills a kid accidentally when trying to kill a shooter..... peacebird Dec 2012 #54
and that's why they should have trained guards/cops/whatever dlwickham Dec 2012 #93
Who gets to decide what child dies tomorrow? rustydog Dec 2012 #82
Thank you...that was my take on it too. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #29
Ok, my dad was also a cop and a sharpshooter. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #38
The Aurora Shooter was wearing a Ballistic Helmet AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #4
I know he was. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #5
If you are in a panic, do you really think you can accurately shoot someone's head? AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #8
Absolutely. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #24
really, dude? you're smarter than this. frylock Dec 2012 #32
Ok, never mind. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #41
have you ever fired a gun? frylock Dec 2012 #61
Yes, many times. And not really, not to hit anyone anyway. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #73
Watch this video of a police station getting exboyfil Dec 2012 #113
I used to do pretty decently at the range, but am now long out of practice... JHB Dec 2012 #134
Cops are well-trained, or are supposed to be. MineralMan Dec 2012 #52
It's all hypothetical. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #62
LaPierre is proposing a volunteer corps of guards for schools, MineralMan Dec 2012 #64
That's a terrible idea. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #81
Well, that's the NRA's idea for what to do. MineralMan Dec 2012 #120
see these guys? MichaelHarris Dec 2012 #67
And there you have it. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #72
and according to the NRA MichaelHarris Dec 2012 #96
That's 99% of the problem NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #90
With people coming and going all the time in a school, what is it you imagine happening? randome Dec 2012 #20
No. Of course not. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #44
Then shoot him in the foot, either way, he won't be going anywhere. 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #15
You really think someone can think reasonably in such a panicful situation? AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #25
i bet you could plug him in the eye from 50 meters behind the back.. frylock Dec 2012 #34
Are you kidding? you've never been in a shooting situation have you rustydog Dec 2012 #89
Actually, yes I have. 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #141
Standard training is double tap center of mass and reevaluate. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #11
Why? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #31
I am taking into account what you are not nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #36
So there is no way anyone could have done anything? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #66
A shotgun might knock you off your feet nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #71
I'm with you on that 100%. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #83
Actually much of my initial training was to engage Spetsnaz in a Nuclear Physical Security situtaion SQUEE Dec 2012 #99
the toes, go for the toes. spanone Dec 2012 #26
and we have a winner! dlwickham Dec 2012 #42
But you are taught to aim at center mass Rex Dec 2012 #46
And what was that point? MrSlayer Dec 2012 #104
Because getting shot in the torso when you're in body armor still knocks you out Recursion Dec 2012 #3
The North Hollywood shooters were shot multiple times AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #6
i think you discount the affects of adrenalin frylock Dec 2012 #130
Since you ask.... NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #7
Your asking police and security guards to be armed with shotguns when on guard? AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #14
OK, just a second, OK? You asked a question and got an answer.... NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #37
They already do this in schools, have been since the 1980s. Rex Dec 2012 #50
I believe the cops in the schools to which you refer Toronto Dec 2012 #58
Typical "did not comprehend the reply" response. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #144
So basically those kids are just SOL if one of those dudes gets in there? budkin Dec 2012 #9
That appears to be the consensus. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #47
An armed teacher could have shot the gun out of his hand MindPilot Dec 2012 #10
No - they could have used deadly ping pong balls NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #22
In all Chuck Norris's hostage rescues, the gunmen usually stop, hold still, and look around helpless Bucky Dec 2012 #94
well actually, the answer is obvious. Teachers need grenades and/or tear gas. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #136
Hwacha talkin' bout, Wampus? Bucky Dec 2012 #138
Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch... Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #13
You bring a bullet proof vest to a shooting contest, we bring a tank. randome Dec 2012 #16
I am not joking that I would rather have a drone waiting for the mass murderer than 1 more kid graham4anything Dec 2012 #95
Rifle bullets go through vests. nt napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #17
Armed teachers would be able to draw a rifle fast enough! AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #21
The chalk rail would make a great gun rack obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #28
I say we give em fully auto weapons boston bean Dec 2012 #45
this made me lol obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #77
I hope you don't think I'm saying teachers should carry rifles. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #85
Cops arrived on the scene of Columbine NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #18
One misconception about columbine.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #49
There was an initial confrontation with the police NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #84
Right.. today, police (and assuming SROs) would engage and stay engaged. X_Digger Dec 2012 #103
When you read the detailed description of the shootings you are begging..... Logical Dec 2012 #106
Yes and in at least two cases exboyfil Dec 2012 #117
Obviously, make sniper training a prerequisite to teacher cert. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #19
Give teachers grenades! WinkyDink Dec 2012 #35
Columbine High School Had Armed Guards During Massacre In 1999 AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #40
Well, 60 yards is a very long shot with a handgun. Glassunion Dec 2012 #60
Well, if that's where he was relative to the shooters what was he supposed to do onenote Dec 2012 #91
I'm sorry. Glassunion Dec 2012 #114
And maybe the armed security guard, who probably doesn't get a whole lot of shooting practice, pnwmom Dec 2012 #48
Standard training calls for aiming at the center of mass. MineralMan Dec 2012 #51
I've Yet to See A Bulletproof Vest Iggy Dec 2012 #53
Wait a minute, you don't expect the gunman to shoot back? AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #125
Another Fantasy Lander Iggy Dec 2012 #139
The answer is obvious WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #56
The Audio Visual Team's job just got a lot harder... Glassunion Dec 2012 #63
Pffft use a light saber, cuts right through em (nt) The Straight Story Dec 2012 #59
I'm confused. I read the article, is body armor a bad thing? Glassunion Dec 2012 #65
It probably wouldn't be a bad thing if not just anybody could buy one. WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #70
"What does your average civilian really need one for?" Glassunion Dec 2012 #79
So do you wear one every time you leave the house? WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #86
maybe you missed his point. Zimmerman. Logical Dec 2012 #107
I didn't miss his point. Did you miss mine? WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #109
A hoodie or a vest? Glassunion Dec 2012 #115
When you are putting yourself in a situation where it's reasonable to think there could be trouble WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #116
Reasonable? I don't see why not. Glassunion Dec 2012 #118
Many years ago, I used to compete in pistol competitions. MineralMan Dec 2012 #68
The NRA is crazy. All kinds of crazy. Taverner Dec 2012 #74
Arm them with rocket launchers. Duh! TheManInTheMac Dec 2012 #76
A teacher's body has a way to shut that whole think down! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #78
DUzy! wickerwoman Dec 2012 #100
There you go thinking again!!!! rustydog Dec 2012 #80
Somehow he walked from the parking lot to the school with 3 guns...apparently one that didn't libdem4life Dec 2012 #87
And you think that the killers are stupid? AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #88
They are likely also psychotic and some would argue insane, as well. libdem4life Dec 2012 #122
Although a vest will stop a bullet, it is still painful. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #97
Ban bullet proof vests former-republican Dec 2012 #98
I don't know that its been confirmed that the Sandy Hook shooter was wearing body armor onenote Dec 2012 #101
Actually its pretty easy SQUEE Dec 2012 #102
You are posting way over the ballistic knowledge of most members here. former-republican Dec 2012 #105
And that seems to be part of the problem SQUEE Dec 2012 #108
"Believe me" I know all that former-republican Dec 2012 #110
They dont have money for teachers. Where are they getting the budget for armed security guards. bullimiami Dec 2012 #111
Well we could start by not declaring trillion dollar wars Glassunion Dec 2012 #121
Well obviously. They all need to have "cop killer" bullets. Crunchy Frog Dec 2012 #119
The one in Aurora was, too Aerows Dec 2012 #123
not so. later reports indicated it was not "body armor" onenote Dec 2012 #135
First you get invisible. Then you get an invisible machine gun. Then, making sure you're not valerief Dec 2012 #126
Maybe the teachers can borrow from their students the bulletproof backpack that are flying southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #127
There has been so much Jenoch Dec 2012 #129
All security guards can make a headshots on moving targets and under extreme pressure.... Marrah_G Dec 2012 #131
simple solution... steel bullets Blackhawk44 Dec 2012 #137
With a head shot, duh! TroglodyteScholar Dec 2012 #140
Teachers would have to be sharp shooters Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2012 #142
Do we know how he got an armor vest and a ballistic helmet? Chiyo-chichi Dec 2012 #143
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