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81. "May issue" concealed carry is often racist. ...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:40 AM
Dec 2012
Gun laws in California

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Concealed carry

California[11][12] is a "may issue" state for concealed carry. A license to carry a concealed firearm may be issued or denied to qualified applicants at the discretion of the County Counsels or City Attorneys in their place of residence.[13][14] In practice, the attitudes of different sheriffs and police chiefs toward the issuance of permits vary widely and, consequentially, different jurisdictions in California can vary anywhere from de facto shall-issue to de facto no-issue.[15] A permit may be issued, by a county Sheriff or city Chief or head of municipal police, in one of two formats

1)A license to carry concealed a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
2)Where the population of the county is less than 200,000 persons according to the most recent federal decennial census, a license to carry loaded and exposed in that county a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.

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Some argue[22] that the California system for CCW issuance fosters systematic discrimination of applicants, as it has been publicized that numerous celebrities and government officials have been issued CCW licenses in cities and counties where the general public have been consistently denied. CCW issuance is also extremely low in areas where the population has a high concentration of minorities and minority applicants are more frequently denied, causing some to allege institutional racism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California






This is actually the reason nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #1
No it's not. zappaman Dec 2012 #10
Odd because the rest of those countries are watching the same movies and playing the Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #37
They got a safety net nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #38
Both of our last two shooters were not lacking from food or care. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #60
I am making stuff up that we have a structural violence problem nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #61
No, that is not what I said. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #65
Yes.. Access to guns is one of the problems nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #66
Good post. This is all a bunch of diversion from the highly lucrative firearms industry. yardwork Dec 2012 #71
I recommend you go read the full editorial. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #78
True. So the problem might be the guns. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #54
But the number of individual gun owners is shrinking. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #2
Is it really? Chorophyll Dec 2012 #3
Heck, 10 per 100 who carry, practice on targets resembling humans, are callous Hoyt Dec 2012 #6
Like the cops use? former-republican Dec 2012 #14
If you feel you need guns to go up against police, you might be prohibited Hoyt Dec 2012 #17
I'm just showing that you should think just a little before posting........ former-republican Dec 2012 #19
I'll trust the police with guns before I will some paranoid, callous yahoo. Hoyt Dec 2012 #62
You show a picture of what is probably a militia group ... spin Dec 2012 #76
Yes. onehandle Dec 2012 #40
Unfortunately, the gun fucks are stockpiling arsenals. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #52
Well, yes. The concentration of danger is more concentrated. onehandle Dec 2012 #57
I seriously hope you're right. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #58
Their newer poll shows the opposite Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #83
no, only about 30% of Americans own guns, they tend to be white and male CreekDog Dec 2012 #70
Gun ownership is often determined by where you live. ... spin Dec 2012 #79
that's bullshit, no state is allowed to discriminate based on skin color CreekDog Dec 2012 #80
"May issue" concealed carry is often racist. ... spin Dec 2012 #81
the link is in the OP d_r Dec 2012 #73
I don't think so former-republican Dec 2012 #5
Nor do I. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #8
Declining. onehandle Dec 2012 #39
True. More guns, owned by fewer people. Robb Dec 2012 #21
I don't think it is shrinking. Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #82
See? that's the problem Doctor_J Dec 2012 #4
Yes, if only 100 of every 100 were armed! Newborns, toddlers... people in comas... Chorophyll Dec 2012 #7
Then, some of us would want grenades. Hoyt Dec 2012 #9
I don't think so. The # of guns is high because some have lots of guns. Not 89 people Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #11
Nevertheless, it's a jesus-lot of guns. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #13
No doubt about it. Although I have one...for protection. I live alone and have had attempted Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #30
I'm glad you were okay, but every story like yours there are so many Chorophyll Dec 2012 #33
+1. The thread title, as stated, is incorrect. reformist2 Dec 2012 #53
Sure gonna be tough to get all those guns! zappaman Dec 2012 #12
Did anyone here call for a "confiscation?" Chorophyll Dec 2012 #15
Yes, in the thread I linked. zappaman Dec 2012 #16
Would you shoot someone when they come to pick up your guns.? Hoyt Dec 2012 #18
I guess it would depend who it was. zappaman Dec 2012 #20
Note to Gun-Confiscating Team organizer: Robb Dec 2012 #24
Damn you and your math!!!! n/t zappaman Dec 2012 #27
Lol. dkf Dec 2012 #28
Yes, I understood that. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #22
And I agree with.... zappaman Dec 2012 #23
It is, but that doesn't mean we do nothing at all. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #25
Again, I agree. zappaman Dec 2012 #26
See there lies the problem. "The assault weapon ban would be a doc03 Dec 2012 #29
Let me just state that I view it as a start, then. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #34
I see from another post you are from NYC, that explains it. Like you said to the doc03 Dec 2012 #44
"Most places have less crime than NYC." Chorophyll Dec 2012 #51
Take a gander at this. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #56
That's from 2002 and it is by state not nyc. You can have your congestion, high prices, high taxes, doc03 Dec 2012 #64
"It is by state not nyc." You don't think NYC is part of NYS? And if the crime rate in the state is Chorophyll Dec 2012 #67
Don't worry I have no desire to go to NYC. Typical NYC attitude doc03 Dec 2012 #69
Dude, chill the hell out. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #74
Where in the City do you live to have one lock on your door?... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #72
I don't live in New York City anymore. I live in White Plains, 30 miles north. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #75
Nothing in there about confiscation. This is about halting assault gun sales in the future. onehandle Dec 2012 #41
In number 34 the author of the op states that she views the assault doc03 Dec 2012 #46
And she still does. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #55
3 percent of the population are gun nuts with 30 guns each. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #31
Your assessment may or may not be accurate, however. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #35
Why do US citizens feel the need to bear arms? Toronto Dec 2012 #32
I have no idea, because I have no guns, no desire to have guns, and I'm Chorophyll Dec 2012 #36
Thanks. I`m sure there are millions of well adjusted people in the US, however Toronto Dec 2012 #45
The NRA lobbies for loser gun laws nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #47
Um, yes to everything you've said? Chorophyll Dec 2012 #50
I own a good number of firearms, mostly handguns , a couple of rifles and a shotgun. ... spin Dec 2012 #77
First it is not all Americans nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #43
Surprisingly Canadians do not require registration for long guns Toronto Dec 2012 #48
I think that has to do with the long gun nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #49
Because we are MAJORLY fu***ed up. smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #68
Gun manufacturers have become dependent on compulsive shoppers BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #42
IMHO if you have a troubled child, the last thing you want to do is stockpile weaponry. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #59
But 89 out of 100 people are NOT gun owners Marrah_G Dec 2012 #63
I do believe that should read : cliffordu Dec 2012 #84
As interesting is the fact that only 30 out of 100 own any at all quaker bill Dec 2012 #85
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