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In reply to the discussion: Take this you gun nutters !!! [View all]ehrenfeucht games
(139 posts)53. Who manufactures illegal guns these days?
Aren't most guns made legally in factories?
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The point of the graph is that the more guns you have, the more gun deaths there are.
EOTE
Dec 2012
#12
Whether we need more or fewer guns depends on whether we want more or fewer gun deaths.
ehrenfeucht games
Dec 2012
#15
BTW, the initial post also makes the point that we are NOT an outlier on that chart. (nt)
ehrenfeucht games
Dec 2012
#11
How do you explain the DoJ report below when all have same access to the guns you cite?
jody
Dec 2012
#2
Ridiculous. You can't use the race card to avoid DoJ's report. Clearly it's not just guns as the OP
jody
Dec 2012
#23
OP posted a regression model and claimed guns caused homicides. Is there anyone other than me who
jody
Dec 2012
#34
Please explain how that supports the statistical credibility of the OP's model. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#41
How the fact that more guns means more crime in areas with similar social/socioeconomic factors?
Spider Jerusalem
Dec 2012
#43
Or perhaps you're too stupid to explain. So we've exchanged insults. Can you answer the question?
jody
Dec 2012
#45
That's DoJ's report, not mine. You asserted guns cause homicide and I asked why the DoJ data
jody
Dec 2012
#22
LOL why don't you provide all the stats for your linear regression because that's what your OP
jody
Dec 2012
#31
The DoJ data shows homicide rates about seven times different when both sub populations have
jody
Dec 2012
#25
OP says "Here is empirical proof on the effect of guns" OP says it's a regression model but such
jody
Dec 2012
#63
Why would you need to. It's not a comparable statistic. One is a snapshot. The other is a linear.
Flabbergasted
Dec 2012
#49
Your graph does not refute the op. it just doesn't. If it does clearly share your reasoning. Nt
Flabbergasted
Dec 2012
#60
First, OP regression line is not supported. Second regression models do not prove cause. Third I
jody
Dec 2012
#64
Straw-man to anyone who doesn't understand the simplest concepts of regression models. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#68
Your chart doesn't refute the OP's chart. They are two completely separate issues.
yardwork
Dec 2012
#50
OP submitted a line through a scatter diagram. Said it was a regression and "empirical proof on the
jody
Dec 2012
#65
You don't speak for me. OP makes assertions that are not supported by the model as presented. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#35
Please provide all the statistics for your model so one can determine the efficacy of your claim. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#28
Culture is certainly a factor. Perhaps that's why Japan with low gun rates compared to the US has a
jody
Dec 2012
#36
I think that everyone agrees that people who kill others are mentally unstable.
socialindependocrat
Dec 2012
#39
"mentally unstable" that's not my field but that gets my lay-person's vote for a primary
jody
Dec 2012
#42
Bill Hicks - "You'd be a fool and a communist to make a connection between having a gun..."
Initech
Dec 2012
#58
Thanks. FBI data for the US is at variance with the data you used for your analysis.
jody
Dec 2012
#74
If your data includes suicides, then IMO your model is fatally flawed because it excludes Japan
jody
Dec 2012
#78
Doesn't matter you cooked the data. You and I know if you presented that at a local chapter of
jody
Dec 2012
#80
We disagree. R square in your model can be interpreted as the percent of variation in the dependent
jody
Dec 2012
#75
The analysis is mine .. source data is from wikipedia filtered to OECD countries
srican69
Dec 2012
#73