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In reply to the discussion: Can anyone make a coherent argument that guns are LESS dangerous than cars? i doubt it... [View all]farminator3000
(2,117 posts)32. probably doesn't count
Most of the people killed by guns are probably bad guys killing other bad guys.
no. most of them are suicides, next is homicides, 3rd is accidents, 4th is in self defense(justifiable)
Those diminishing returns will come in the cost of the regulations, the political capital expended to enact laws that don't work, and the loss of civil liberties of the people whose lives those laws will impact.
if you mean regulations will cost the gov. too much, not really, auto regulations don't do that
if you mean cost to people, same answer. cars.
i don't know what you mean about pol. capital. you have a crystal ball and know 'the laws won't work'? huh?
and nobody will lose any 'liberties'.
the people who's lives the laws will impact are the people getting murdered?
it seems almost childish to me- "i don't want a basic gun, i need a fancy one"
would you want someone to own a car twice as wide as yours? prob not...
no. most of them are suicides, next is homicides, 3rd is accidents, 4th is in self defense(justifiable)
Those diminishing returns will come in the cost of the regulations, the political capital expended to enact laws that don't work, and the loss of civil liberties of the people whose lives those laws will impact.
if you mean regulations will cost the gov. too much, not really, auto regulations don't do that
if you mean cost to people, same answer. cars.
i don't know what you mean about pol. capital. you have a crystal ball and know 'the laws won't work'? huh?
and nobody will lose any 'liberties'.
the people who's lives the laws will impact are the people getting murdered?
it seems almost childish to me- "i don't want a basic gun, i need a fancy one"
would you want someone to own a car twice as wide as yours? prob not...
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Can anyone make a coherent argument that guns are LESS dangerous than cars? i doubt it... [View all]
farminator3000
Dec 2012
OP
Currently a given gun in the US is less likely to kill or injure someone than a given car
Recursion
Dec 2012
#1
The whole gun cars argument is ridicules on it's face. Guns are manufactured to kill. Cars are not.
Lint Head
Dec 2012
#5
I don't understand your reply. Guns are manufactured to kill just like nuclear weapons.
Lint Head
Dec 2012
#18
So why not regulate guns as much car design and operation is regulated?
aint_no_life_nowhere
Dec 2012
#10
Sorry but I have yet to see a convincing argument that the comparison is foolish
aint_no_life_nowhere
Dec 2012
#76
it just got more foolish- my cat hit a button and changed 'car' to 'gun' somehow in your thing here
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#67
i most certainly am not talking about removing gun regs., i am saying regulate the crap out of them
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#87
Firearm death rates have been pretty steady for many years. Vehicle death rates have fallen.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#13
"just because you are a responsible gun owner, you have no idea about the other 99,999,999."
Rex
Dec 2012
#119
political opinions also don't change reality in general. you are not clairvoyant. things don't
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#69
Silly troll....very few deaths caused by firearms are purely accidental, whereas....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#33
My post was in plain English....I should have guessed a troll wouldn't understand it. nt.
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#40
technically, by repeating yourself and saying nothing about what i said, YOU ARE THE TROLL, yes?
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#43
Your original OP was a waste of time from your very first word. You have no point to make....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#45
You have to do two separate queries at WISQARS, but it does confirm krispos423's claim
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#88
1991 (a peak year) - 10.38 per 100,000. 2010 (most recent year available) - 5.29
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#94
That means that you are less likely to be a victim of homicide now than you were 20 years ago
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#100
No, there is a lower percentage of murderous people in the population than there was 20 years ago
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#113
Not really, but I can prove beyond any doubt that cars are more useful in everyday life for the
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#101
Until any soldier of any nation is issued a Ford Fusion instead of a firearm, this line of argument
Ikonoklast
Dec 2012
#126