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174. The best deal...

Reply to alcibiades_mystery (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:38 PM

Dec 2012

.. is no deal, since the Republicans are only concerned about the 1%.

Let's have some big cuts to our most wasteful entitlement, defense spending.

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Check in here if you think NO DEAL before the New Year is a VICTORY [View all] alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 OP

Have car, will Cliff Drive! n/t HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #1

+1 Fridays Child Dec 2012 #3

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #31

Sure, I'll drive. After I start drinking cliffordu Dec 2012 #64

Let the Bush tax cuts expire. jsr Dec 2012 #2

+99 n/t We People Dec 2012 #16

no deal is better than a crappy deal. nt limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #4

So, a victory? Or just better than a crappy deal? alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #6

At this point it looks like a victory I guess. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #21

Well, that sounds half-hearted alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #25

Over the cliff is the best option right now. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #37

Fair enough! Best option it is. alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #42

Yup, off the curb. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #5

Merry Cliffmas! Jim Warren Dec 2012 #7

I see what you did there...very clever! HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #9

Come on, do the ProSense Dec 2012 #8

I have always avoided your posts, that being said. You have fucking rocked Autumn Dec 2012 #12

Thanks. ProSense Dec 2012 #17

You said you liked this one, earlier: freshwest Dec 2012 #50

Agreed. That post should be posted on its own. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #53

well said, thank you nt navarth Dec 2012 #91

"There is no problem with Social Security that creating jobs in this country wouldn't solve." mac56 Dec 2012 #148

Agreed. So many depend on Social Security yet pandr32 Dec 2012 #169

LOVE IT! It's in our best interests to let this go til the new year. calimary Dec 2012 #217

perfect - this is the picture I had in my mind reverend_tim Dec 2012 #219

What me worry about a little cliff? Wwagsthedog Dec 2012 #10

I want to soar over the fucking cliff Autumn Dec 2012 #11

With all the crap from republicans And Democrats .... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #13

Let's roll! 99Forever Dec 2012 #14

Timber!!!! Wellstone ruled Dec 2012 #15

Time To Fly, Sir.... The Magistrate Dec 2012 #18

Absolutely! il_lilac Dec 2012 #19

No f***ing deal Hydra Dec 2012 #20

Yes, yes, of course...but i mean that if we don't have a deal by January 1, that is a VICTORY alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #24

Oh yes, I like clear goals like that Hydra Dec 2012 #27

I just wanted to be clear that this thread is for those who would consider a Jan 1 No Deal a Victory alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #28

I've got my bags packed.. Lets go JeffHead Dec 2012 #22

Present & R. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #23

No, but it's better than letting the Bush tax cuts continue. Deep13 Dec 2012 #26

It wouldn't be a victory. OK. How about the best outcome of those available and possible now? alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #30

Yeah, all right... Deep13 Dec 2012 #74

+1 ^^^ This. Domestic spending cuts will hurt big time. ieoeja Dec 2012 #168

My bet is just like last time quaker bill Dec 2012 #29

"cliff" takes the car keys away from the current holder. go for it nt msongs Dec 2012 #32

Bring it! n/t Greybnk48 Dec 2012 #33

Lead the way, boys..... plethoro Dec 2012 #34

LOL limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #224

I don't know if you could call it a victory but... kentuck Dec 2012 #35

How about "Best Option Available and Realistic at This Point" alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #44

Present. Melinda Dec 2012 #36

New and better deal next term, no deal now. PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #38

Let's just get to Jan 1 without a Deal for now though, yeah? alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #45

yes no deal. oldbanjo Dec 2012 #39

Crack that nineteen50 Dec 2012 #40

No Deal is better than a Bad Deal, I think we can all agree on that. Motown_Johnny Dec 2012 #41

is anything other than a bad deal a possibility? If not, then No Deal would be a victory alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #47

No deals that cut safety nets. Go off the cliff and we will pick up those pieces we rhett o rick Dec 2012 #43

Yeah! alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #46

No deal beats any deal cutting SS or Medicare. kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #48

Victory, ultimately, would be equality, full employment, and the end of poverty alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #51

I guess I have to repeat myself. kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #187

Agreed. MyshkinCommaPrince Dec 2012 #49

The new House is pretty much going to look like the old House customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #71

no deal dwilso40641 Dec 2012 #52

+1 jberryhill Dec 2012 #54

cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! cliff! wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #55

Yes!!!???? cliffordu Dec 2012 #67

lol! wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #105

+1 Ed Suspicious Dec 2012 #56

over the cliff dwilso40641 Dec 2012 #57

K & R Change has come Dec 2012 #58

My Dream trublu992 Dec 2012 #59

I'm ready to take the plunge LeftInTX Dec 2012 #60

k&r The Wizard Dec 2012 #61

Over the river and littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #62

Might as well... rocktivity Dec 2012 #63

I hear it may cost a lot to win, and even more to lose. Therefore, you and me better spend some time Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #65

No deal. nt femrap Dec 2012 #66

all ready for the cliff drop! Cliff, here we come! n/t NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #68

NO DEAL! judesedit Dec 2012 #69

Grumpy thinks we're going over. WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #70

I for one welcome our grumpycat overlords MadrasT Dec 2012 #210

+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #72

To paraphrase Jon Stewart, okwmember Dec 2012 #73

K&R deutsey Dec 2012 #75

I'm in joetubes Dec 2012 #76

Here's how it could work for Obama... L0oniX Dec 2012 #77

Sounds good to me! Maineman Dec 2012 #199

No, it's not a victory, but it's the best possible option at this point. woo me with science Dec 2012 #78

So there is no possibility of any victory now alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #86

Signing on to austerity packages is not a victory. woo me with science Dec 2012 #231

Total propaganda. None of that happens if we go "over the cliff." joshcryer Dec 2012 #243

The debt ceiling can be juggled for months. joshcryer Dec 2012 #222

I'm in with both feet. Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #79

Off we go! AzDar Dec 2012 #80

K/R Dawson Leery Dec 2012 #81

Absolutely Mickju Dec 2012 #82

I don't know that it's a victory but it's the best way forward. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #83

no deal is a victory samsingh Dec 2012 #84

Right now, if it's Obama's dump on the table, Plan B, or the cliff, then JimDandy Dec 2012 #85

Yo UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #87

Check aintitfunny Dec 2012 #88

Cliff Shmiff defacto7 Dec 2012 #89

NO DEAL Lifelong Protester Dec 2012 #90

Crash this mutha. morningfog Dec 2012 #92

No deal is better than a bad deal peace frog Dec 2012 #93

No deal beats a crappy deal WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #94

K&R nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #95

No Deal! UCmeNdc Dec 2012 #96

No deal. rosesaylavee Dec 2012 #97

Let's wait until the next Congress is sworn in. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2012 #98

true that allinthegame Dec 2012 #99

So I take it that you were just kidding in the past? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #100

Oh, Manny alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #110

Seeing your OP, I did a spit take MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #114

I don't think there's any apology required alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #116

Sweet Jesus MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #117

Um alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #118

Oh there's still plenty of time for a fold. joshcryer Dec 2012 #223

lets go over the illusionary cliff sasha031 Dec 2012 #101

Booyah! Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #102

I'm in! ReRe Dec 2012 #103

No deal. n/t gkhouston Dec 2012 #104

Yep MNBrewer Dec 2012 #106

It's damn sure better than cutting social security. craigmatic Dec 2012 #107

No deal is better than a bad deal! n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2012 #108

It's not a cliff, it's a bump! JackRiddler Dec 2012 #109

My parachute is on and I'm ready to cliff dive. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #111

No deal libodem Dec 2012 #112

Didn't we go through this before it makes for accounting Historic NY Dec 2012 #113

Even their horses are crazy... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #115

Not only is no deal the best deal, grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #119

Exactly! Owl Dec 2012 #232

Ready to sprint over the imaginary cliff standingtall Dec 2012 #120

Damn right NO DEAL. who the hell does Boner think he is? vanlassie Dec 2012 #121

RIght on! NYtoBush-Drop Dead Dec 2012 #122

We're way past winning now but there will be no tolerable deal. TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #123

Will it have been a temporary win to get to the cliff alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #124

It's a loss for those who will lose their food stamps and other benefits One of the 99 Dec 2012 #125

On record for the other position is fine alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #126

So you're OK with other people's children going hungry One of the 99 Dec 2012 #130

Who me? alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #132

Isn't that the whole point One of the 99 Dec 2012 #144

No alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #145

Sorry if I misunderstood. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #149

I'm just taking the temparature of the board alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #166

So what is your position. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #170

I care about policy alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #173

That's not an answer. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #175

Oh, it is alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #176

So what policies are you advocating? One of the 99 Dec 2012 #179

Let me say this alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #188

Good post. nt One of the 99 Dec 2012 #205

It will not be a victory for the poor no matter how this comes out standingtall Dec 2012 #128

Medicare cuts are not part of the package. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #129

$50 a month can be a lot for someone on a fix income standingtall Dec 2012 #138

Let's talk reality One of the 99 Dec 2012 #143

Couldn't that be addressed in a seperate bill? olegramps Dec 2012 #156

Sure it could. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #157

It is reality standingtall Dec 2012 #239

No it is not. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #240

I kind of think my husband losing his job should be a no go, period. renie408 Dec 2012 #163

Food stamps and medicaid aren't involved in the fiscal cliff octoberlib Dec 2012 #207

The fiscal cliff is smoke and mirrors! joshcryer Dec 2012 #225

I gladly jump DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #127

Roll, Baby, roll. Stardust Dec 2012 #131

The only way we will ever raise capital gains taxes. Coyotl Dec 2012 #133

not victory, per se, but perhaps the beginning of victory 0rganism Dec 2012 #134

I appreciate your caution alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #135

oh definitely, but it has to be done right or we lose the initiative 0rganism Dec 2012 #136

My 21,000th post says I'm in. donheld Dec 2012 #137

I have washed my hands of this non-existent problem bluestateguy Dec 2012 #139

Early morning kick Oilwellian Dec 2012 #140

Over the cliff Not Sure Dec 2012 #141

The prey has turned into the predator nolabels Dec 2012 #160

I don't think "victory" is a term that applies to thiis situation ashling Dec 2012 #142

No Deal!!!! n/t Progressive dog Dec 2012 #146

No deal will be a Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #147

HUGE K & R !!! - NO DEAL !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #150

No deal! marble falls Dec 2012 #151

NO DEAL! NO DEAL! NO DEAL! MyOpinion-2 Dec 2012 #152

better no deal then obamas current proposal.... bowens43 Dec 2012 #153

THOU SHALT NO CHEAT THY ELDERS Coyotl Dec 2012 #154

It's past time to do some self-sacrifice. Panasonic Dec 2012 #155

I have to agree. It is like trying to deal with the devil. olegramps Dec 2012 #158

It's a victory Turbineguy Dec 2012 #159

You gotta stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. Myrina Dec 2012 #161

We doan need no stinking deal pscot Dec 2012 #162

God, I hope we don't get a deal. I am pretty resilient and can take losing my house. renie408 Dec 2012 #164

Great thread! * Redfairen Dec 2012 #165

Yes to Cliff! KansDem Dec 2012 #167

Aye! dmosh42 Dec 2012 #171

Say no to Plan B 4dsc Dec 2012 #172

The best deal... sendero Dec 2012 #174

NO DEAL!!! DesertDiamond Dec 2012 #177

Over we go! rgbecker Dec 2012 #178

Go over the cliff. Hit ground running on 01/01/2013 Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #180

I'd like to kick Bonner's ass off the cliff just to... santamargarita Dec 2012 #181

No deal!!! nt mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #182

I wonder what Thelma and Louise would have done.. Whisp Dec 2012 #183

There is no cliff. NO DEAL FTW! harun Dec 2012 #184

I think I agree, but... Whisp Dec 2012 #185

$600 billion of across the board cuts to domsetic discretionary alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #189

And you can juggle the books for months. joshcryer Dec 2012 #226

Let's Thelma and Louise if off the cliff kimbutgar Dec 2012 #186

Not yet. Bradical79 Dec 2012 #190

cese cese Dec 2012 #191

Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #197

GO OVER THE CLIFF! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #192

The Fiscal Myth CapnSteve Dec 2012 #193

yep. Pryderi Dec 2012 #194

I'm in! Off the cliff! Owl Dec 2012 #195

No Deal! Go over the cliff! TeamPooka Dec 2012 #196

If they can really reach a deal later then yes andym Dec 2012 #198

no deal is the best deal RedstDem Dec 2012 #200

Yup! nt and-justice-for-all Dec 2012 #201

Let's go! Rider3 Dec 2012 #202

Yep maveric56 Dec 2012 #203

NO DEAL~! truebrit71 Dec 2012 #204

No deal! octoberlib Dec 2012 #206

DURec Eric the Reddish Dec 2012 #208

YAY RECESSION and PEOPLE LOSE UNEMPOLYMENT!!! SpartanDem Dec 2012 #209

Political Theater at its worst! Rain Mcloud Dec 2012 #211

It depends iandhr Dec 2012 #212

I think John2 Dec 2012 #213

Better than caving in. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2012 #214

No deal grandpamike1 Dec 2012 #215

Yes - better to hit the curb w/ no deal than this Plan B for Bullshit.... Pachamama Dec 2012 #216

I guess SS recipients don't give a shit about recessions taught_me_patience Dec 2012 #218

Come On Boys The Cliff Is Not That Steep Forrestted Dec 2012 #220

The only winning move is not to play. joshcryer Dec 2012 #221

So we all have to pay a higher price? humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #227

They might not happen alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #229

Interesting because humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #241

Cliff ahead. Parachute packed. It's ok. kiranon Dec 2012 #228

Taxes go back to Clinton era rates for everybody. alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #230

No Deal Milliesmom Dec 2012 #233

I'm back libodem Dec 2012 #234

I'll be Thelma, you be Louise. DRIVE! mountain grammy Dec 2012 #235

Done peace frog Dec 2012 #242

Check! nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #236

Give me the cliff. Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #237

No Deal is better than caving......... again. OverBurn Dec 2012 #238