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thucythucy

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113. You addressed nothing in my post
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:31 PM
Dec 2012

and instead posted a video about an entirely separate incident.

Again, we have no "diagnosis" of the shooter in this instance, no verified information that he was on any medications at all, and certainly nothing linking Asberger's to this sort of violence.

I doubt Michael Moore supports bigotry against people with disabilities, and I certainly don't think he would want to see the issue of pharmaceuticals sidetrack needed discussions on gun control.



I am not sure I can take that as a fact... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #1
We don't know anything for sure, yet, that is true. Th1onein Dec 2012 #4
I have read some horror stories... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #14
Just stop. Stop right there. MineralMan Dec 2012 #24
Thank you. arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #34
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ hedgehog Dec 2012 #52
Thank you. Rider3 Dec 2012 #53
Thank you. thucythucy Dec 2012 #101
Thank you for that get the red out Dec 2012 #131
"Don't destroy the placebo effect" tama Dec 2012 #157
Who are you quoting? I did not write that. MineralMan Dec 2012 #183
+100 Taverner Dec 2012 #170
Seriously. Posteritatis Dec 2012 #176
yes mattvermont Dec 2012 #201
+1 arely staircase Dec 2012 #202
+1000! Walk away Dec 2012 #226
Stop what? Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #239
thank you MM nt steve2470 Dec 2012 #249
Well said. nt msanthrope Dec 2012 #270
I took sertraline for a few years when younger. GaYellowDawg Dec 2012 #118
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #133
Really? I HAVE personal experience with them. So do several of my family members, all of whom had Th1onein Dec 2012 #138
So this adverse reaction you had, did it turn you into a mass murderer? thucythucy Dec 2012 #208
NO ONE is posting attacks on people with Asperger's or any other mental disability. Th1onein Dec 2012 #219
Go ahead and put me on ignore, thucythucy Dec 2012 #224
These problems prob. existed BEFORE they took the medications. Often they go off them cold turkey. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #152
I've been on sertraline for over 5 years now. Terra Alta Dec 2012 #250
Columbine: Same thing. Former Sen. John Decamp brought stats to court SugarShack Dec 2012 #252
There have been some discussions/threads on the subject today(Monday.) elleng Dec 2012 #2
There is no information about that that has any credibility. MineralMan Dec 2012 #26
The 'uncle' cited in that article is a scammer csziggy Dec 2012 #160
i've seen no verifiable source that says this is the case, & lots of different reports of what he HiPointDem Dec 2012 #3
I know that the current Repuke and NRA line is AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #5
I think psychiatrists and MD's; anyone who writes a script for these kinds of meds..... Th1onein Dec 2012 #7
You want to see the poll I did for that snooper2 Dec 2012 #8
So if you are treated for depression your medical upaloopa Dec 2012 #33
If I suffer from a seizure disorder it is not arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #41
I glad you aren't given any authority to write laws upaloopa Dec 2012 #57
I want to save lives, guns only serve to take arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #68
Since when is it not kept private? loyalsister Dec 2012 #173
True. I would assume the records would be kept arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #189
Mandatory reporting for DL is only legal in a few states loyalsister Dec 2012 #190
I had not thought of that, I don't think they arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #191
One of the authors of the Americans with Disabilities Act, thucythucy Dec 2012 #206
Well, given the discrimination that could result arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #213
Absolutely. In Coelho's case, he was diagnosed thucythucy Dec 2012 #214
Depression is not psychosis womanofthehills Dec 2012 #55
The problem is we still don't understand the brain and are basically GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #58
Brave New World tama Dec 2012 #164
You can find information to support either side upaloopa Dec 2012 #60
No, but if you are treated with an SSRI, yes, it should be reported. Th1onein Dec 2012 #93
In 2008 SCOTUS reaffirmed it was OK to deny 2A rights to criminals and the mentally ill HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #107
Thank you. tosh Dec 2012 #122
That's crazy! I am on a medication for anxiety adigal Dec 2012 #124
No, of course not. But you shouldn't be able to buy a gun unless you are stable on these drugs. Th1onein Dec 2012 #139
That's crazy, I'm sorry. Even with anxiety, I'm more functional than most Americans, adigal Dec 2012 #145
YOU are just one person. Th1onein Dec 2012 #197
http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/ green for victory Dec 2012 #262
Thank you, green for victory. These forums explain a lot about the effects of withdrawing from Th1onein Dec 2012 #266
Nope. politicat Dec 2012 #6
I could not agree with you more! Thank you. n/t arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #45
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #136
Exactly... sendero Dec 2012 #242
No. Hard to think of anything less important. cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #9
Is this an OP or an agenda? Do you know that the killer was on medication, bluestate10 Dec 2012 #10
We don't know anything for sure yet. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #11
NO! This is another red herring. Regardless of Adam Lanza's mental health, meds, riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #12
Because crazy people don't use knives, bombs, cars, etc to kill people? HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #80
Yeah. Because he killed 25 people with his teeth. GaYellowDawg Dec 2012 #119
Do you have a link for that claim? n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #13
Demonizing antidepressants is irresponsible. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #15
+999 trillion nt Jamastiene Dec 2012 #22
demonizing the shooters is preferable! green for victory Dec 2012 #65
"Demonizing the shooters"?? thucythucy Dec 2012 #102
Michael Moore disagrees green for victory Dec 2012 #111
You addressed nothing in my post thucythucy Dec 2012 #113
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #137
Prove it...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #16
This Aspie takes Paxil and I couldn't hurt a fly. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #17
That's you, Odin2005. As many as five percent have adverse reactions involving violence to self or Th1onein Dec 2012 #18
Andrea Yates was high on Jesus. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #19
She might have been high on Jesus, but she was also on Prozac, and had just had her dosage changed Th1onein Dec 2012 #42
Takes a month or more for the drugs to take effect Confusious Dec 2012 #81
Please don't launch personal attacks, Confusious. It lowers the level of discourse on this forum. Th1onein Dec 2012 #87
You propound misinformation liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #109
So, let me get this straight....... Th1onein Dec 2012 #140
Nice way to deflect the fact liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #144
It's far from speculation when it's been reported as coming from an official involved in the Th1onein Dec 2012 #195
The medical examiner admitted liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #199
Why don't you do a search on this topic? I'm not talking about the medical examiner. Th1onein Dec 2012 #221
Just trying to figure out why you misrepresent things Confusious Dec 2012 #154
Let me refresh your memory, then.... Th1onein Dec 2012 #235
I suppose the PHD with a medical degree Confusious Dec 2012 #237
"your entire crusade is a personal attack against people who have mental illness" green for victory Dec 2012 #238
If you want to lock someone up on medication Confusious Dec 2012 #241
You forget one very important fact: THE DRUGS HAVE A BLACK BOX WARNING ON THEM. Th1onein Dec 2012 #248
You: Confusious Dec 2012 #251
If the safe administration of these drugs requires hospitalization, then yes, they must be Th1onein Dec 2012 #257
Changing your words? Confusious Dec 2012 #258
I haven't changed a thing. Th1onein Dec 2012 #261
You can't win or lose an argument against a fundy Confusious Dec 2012 #269
ANOTHER personal attack, Confusious! Calling me a fundie? Is Henry Waxman also a fundie? Th1onein Dec 2012 #271
Your entire OP is a personal attack thucythucy Dec 2012 #204
Wrong on all counts obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #150
Because 5% might be adversely affected, we should do away with the drugs and GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #25
GreenPartyVoter, 5% is 5% too many when they go on rampage killings. Th1onein Dec 2012 #44
And I gave you a suggestion on how to manage it, but how do we get it to happen? In the meantime not GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #51
We need to hospitalize people who are prescribed these drugs. Closely monitor them. Th1onein Dec 2012 #91
So I should be hospitalized if my Paxi dosage is ever changed? Odin2005 Dec 2012 #72
I think it's something we should consider, if not for everyone then at least under certain criteria, GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #95
Oh, yikes! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #97
*great big hugs back* GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #112
11% of Americans ove 12 years old take SSRIs. Walk away Dec 2012 #228
Hence the idea that certain criteria would need to be met. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #233
EXACTLY, GreenPartyVoter! Th1onein Dec 2012 #267
Five percent do not go on "rampage killings." thucythucy Dec 2012 #207
I didn't realize the medications were the problem Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #27
The National Institutes of Health has done some work on the matter green for victory Dec 2012 #63
There is zero proof he was on any meds obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #151
And for every one incident you mention, there are millions who take Jamastiene Dec 2012 #28
Absolutely, there are many who experience no adverse reactions resulting in violent behavior. BUT Th1onein Dec 2012 #48
Yeah. With a gun. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #70
I don't find it hard to understand at all. But there are more weapons out there than just guns. Th1onein Dec 2012 #92
You are making shit up again!! adigal Dec 2012 #167
RIIIIIGHT! Because NO ONE who ever takes drugs does things that they later don't remember doing! Th1onein Dec 2012 #194
"As to proof that the Lanza boy [he was 20, BTW] had Asperger's thucythucy Dec 2012 #210
I'm not "smearing" ANYONE. I'm against these drugs because they are dangerous. Th1onein Dec 2012 #218
"I see no debunking..." thucythucy Dec 2012 #227
SSRIs affect memory? No. It's fair to say he was on them? NO! adigal Dec 2012 #253
Absolutely they can affect memory. Th1onein Dec 2012 #254
Suicidal tendencies and violent, destructive thoughts are behavioral side effects lunasun Dec 2012 #158
And SSRIs help a lot of people quit drinking adigal Dec 2012 #130
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #166
Those folks probably drank soda too something should be done! upaloopa Dec 2012 #38
I have been on antidepressants since I was 20. And I am not violent. Jennicut Dec 2012 #67
disturbed people often seek help. they often take meds. mopinko Dec 2012 #85
Andrea Yates was mentally ill -- she had post partum psychosis obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #149
Andrea Yates was on an SSRI drug. Th1onein Jan 2013 #272
Thank you. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #74
I could've sworn all DU lived in constant fear of your impending wrath Posteritatis Dec 2012 #174
Nope. ceile Dec 2012 #20
Please, please stop demonizing Asperger's and SSRIs. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #21
Thank you. +999 trillion Jamastiene Dec 2012 #30
I am so glad they are helping! I wish mine did a bit more, but since I am bipolar 2 it's bit tricky GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #47
I am not demonizing Asperger's or any other mental illness or syndrome. Th1onein Dec 2012 #49
Then please edit your OP to reflect that, because right now it doesn't read that way to me at all. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #61
I don't think that the OP needs any editing at all. Th1onein Dec 2012 #89
Yes, it does. It needs to liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #146
I'm sorry, but your information is incorrect. Th1onein Dec 2012 #196
Where is the official confirmation that he AS? liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #200
I doubt that anyone with a grain of critical thought could possibly take the OP seriously. Walk away Dec 2012 #229
Go look it up yourself. I'm not doing your homework for you. Th1onein Dec 2012 #234
Could have fooled me. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #75
I am sorry you have been fooled, then. Th1onein Dec 2012 #90
It's too late now, but you should have edited the title to your post, then. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #243
The title to the OP is not demonizing anyone. THERE IS NO SUBTEXT except to people who can't Th1onein Dec 2012 #244
You absolutely are demonizing people with Asperger's. thucythucy Dec 2012 #103
THANK YOU. liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #148
I'm so sorry to hear of the difficulties your family has encountered and continues to encounter. thucythucy Dec 2012 #184
Thanks. "Aspies" is a term liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #187
Thanks! thucythucy Dec 2012 #188
I just wanted to add that Neoma thucythucy Dec 2012 #185
The OP has been saying stupid things about SSRIs for years. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #73
Yeah, there seem to be a few people who feel similarly. GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #84
Thank you, thank you, thank you! liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #114
*hugs* I have a son that is PDD, but has a lot of Aspie-like features as one GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #126
Here's the deal: You don't know anything about this. MineralMan Dec 2012 #23
Thank you. n/t Jamastiene Dec 2012 #32
Not a problem at all. MineralMan Dec 2012 #39
No, here's the deal. If you are on an SSRI antidepressant, you are TWELVE times more likely to Th1onein Dec 2012 #50
NO! The "root of the violence" is the guns and our gun culture. nt riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #66
It's very irresponsible of you to speculate like this muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #71
SSRI's are never used to "treat" Asperger's. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #76
Please don't split hairs. SSRIs are often used to treat certain aspects of Aspergers. Th1onein Dec 2012 #88
I take Paxil for ANXIETY, not my Asperger's Odin2005 Dec 2012 #98
And your point? Th1onein Dec 2012 #141
But, even if true, that doesn't matter in this case liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #180
No one is scapegoating Asperger sufferers. This is very obvious. Th1onein Dec 2012 #192
The fact that multiple people on this thread thucythucy Dec 2012 #212
A lot of people insisted that the world was going to end yesterday, too, but that didn't make it Th1onein Dec 2012 #217
So now you're comparing every DU'er who has called you out on your irresponsible thucythucy Dec 2012 #225
The hell you're not scapegoating them, liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #215
You're wrong. Simply wrong. Th1onein Dec 2012 #255
I've never been told I could take medication NiteOwll Dec 2012 #104
Do a cross reference search on SSRI drugs and Asperger's. Th1onein Dec 2012 #143
Your sources don't prove your point. NiteOwll Dec 2012 #171
You very apparently don't understand the point that I was trying to make. In fact, you reiterate my Th1onein Dec 2012 #193
Excuse me, but will you PLEASE liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #198
Excuse me, but will YOU PLEASE Th1onein Dec 2012 #236
you said it! likesmountains 52 Dec 2012 #247
Jesus H. Christ, ONE MORE TIME. liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #116
That's about 12 times the bullshit I need to hear. GaYellowDawg Dec 2012 #120
I think you have it backwards adigal Dec 2012 #147
"The shooter in Connecticut..." There you go again. thucythucy Dec 2012 #211
I guess the fact that a high percentage of people on SSRIs are depressed to begin with has nothing.. Walk away Dec 2012 #231
This is a topic that everyone here has an opinion about upaloopa Dec 2012 #29
Frankly, I don't see that as being very decisive BlueStreak Dec 2012 #31
Something slipped through the cracks here and maybe everyone Cleita Dec 2012 #35
No. It strikes me as dim-witted scapegoating. n/t gkhouston Dec 2012 #36
Except it's not "often treated with antidepressants" Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #37
Yes, it is. Th1onein Dec 2012 #268
Would you prefer that people with mental illnesses received no treatment? Motown_Johnny Dec 2012 #40
Autism is not a mental illness. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #46
It appears he had developed a mental illness in addition. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #82
They're damned if they do and damned if they don't with this crowd Posteritatis Dec 2012 #175
Sounds like Scientologist, anti-pychiatry bullshit to me...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #43
There is apparently nothing whatsoever at present to suggest dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #54
They haven't found any evidence that he was on any medication. There was none in the home... nessa Dec 2012 #56
No. Warpy Dec 2012 #59
Your tinfoil's on too tight. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #62
Experts: No link between Asperger's, violence pinto Dec 2012 #64
No. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #69
why isn't the media at least asking the question? Isn't that their job? No Compromise Dec 2012 #77
They aren't asking because there's no evidence he was on any drugs. jeff47 Dec 2012 #179
So I finally read the complete list of symptoms for Aspergers, ecstatic Dec 2012 #78
We don't know what, if any, treatment he was getting. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #79
No, I'm an aspie who has taken antidepressants off and on DotGone Dec 2012 #83
I think your mind reading act needs a little work... Blue Idaho Dec 2012 #86
Fox News And The New York Times Abet Media Effort To Falsely Link Autism With CT Shooting Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #94
Thank you. This has been one of my fears (there are so many) since this broke. Butterbean Dec 2012 #106
Thank you for this post. thucythucy Dec 2012 #232
There is at present nothing whatsoever to confirm he was on anything at all. dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #96
It's the fucking conspiracy theory that just won't die... SidDithers Dec 2012 #99
I've taught lots of kids with Aspergers. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #100
Yet another thread goes straight to the trashcan. n/t MadrasT Dec 2012 #105
Even if true, correlation isn't causality Orangepeel Dec 2012 #108
Speaking as someone who has taken anti-depressants for many years... rox63 Dec 2012 #110
YES - This! get the red out Dec 2012 #134
None of us knows what he is diagnosed with, Marrah_G Dec 2012 #115
No. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #117
You beat me to it, Starry obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #121
Thank you! liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #123
^^^ Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2012 #129
It strikes me as important that we should be focusing on adequate mental health treatment Skidmore Dec 2012 #125
Does it strike anyone as important that there are a lot of red herrings being posted? kiva Dec 2012 #127
It's pretty amazing Aerows Dec 2012 #135
No. Not important. The easy accersability to guns and ammunition are the root cause. nt bowens43 Dec 2012 #128
Millions of people take antidepressants Aerows Dec 2012 #132
Since when are antidepressants used to "treat" Aspergers? TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #142
There is no proof he was an Aspie nor was on meds obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #153
Antidepressants do a lot more good than harm. The people taking them are often in crisis before Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #155
He was not under a psychiatrist's care so he was NOT on any antidepressants. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #156
Nor is there any proof other than liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #159
One more time, I ask in the name of liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #161
I see it as irresponsibilty, either way. JohnnyLib2 Dec 2012 #162
Indeed. But then again, liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #163
Brave New World tama Dec 2012 #165
You've gotta be kidding me. liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #168
I was inclined to answer tama Dec 2012 #177
No. Hundreds of thousands of Americans are on antidepressants Taverner Dec 2012 #169
Well, this kind of black and white thinking liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #182
Nope, but what I do feel is striking... countryjake Dec 2012 #172
I wonder how many people the current "demonize the mentally ill + treatment" craze will kill. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #178
Excellent point. thucythucy Dec 2012 #223
Unrec. Pure conjecture and misleading. Owl Dec 2012 #181
I think it was the guns. /nt yardwork Dec 2012 #186
The immdiate issue is not about sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #203
I've taken antidepressants for years cherish44 Dec 2012 #205
excuse me, but where the fuck did you come up with his diagnosis and treatment, Dr.? magical thyme Dec 2012 #209
NO. freshwest Dec 2012 #216
I took them until ... Eddie Haskell Dec 2012 #220
Aspergers is NOT a condition that is treated with medication cherish44 Dec 2012 #222
+1 n/t duffyduff Dec 2012 #230
No. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #240
Not me. steve2470 Dec 2012 #245
In all liklihood, this guy was misdiagnosed. He was a Paranoid Schizophrenic. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #246
The Niagara Falls Reporter?... SidDithers Dec 2012 #256
How about the US GOV National Institutes of Health green for victory Dec 2012 #259
And that shows that Lanza was taking anti-depressants where?...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #260
no time to waste now on those who refuse to see green for victory Dec 2012 #263
Does that link show Lanza was taking anti-depressants?... SidDithers Dec 2012 #264
It strikes me as important that he had a bushmaster with a high capacity magazine. Iggo Dec 2012 #265
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