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zipplewrath

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20. Socialism vs regulated economy

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:59 AM

Dec 2012

VERY roughly speaking, I tend to see liberals as leaning far more towards an insistence of socialism in the form of DIRECT control of critical industries and services (nationalize the banks, oil industry, etc.). I tend to see progressives as leaning more towards merely wanting to heavily regulate markets and industries. They're also more "tolerant" of trying to accomplish goals through influence instead of direct control, even with respect to the social safety net.

But there's alot of hair splitting in there and to some extent one might suggest that all progressives are liberals, but not all liberals are progressives. i.e. one is just a subset of the other.

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Liberal or Progressive [View all] Riftaxe Dec 2012 OP

I self identify as a very liberal progressive.... peacebird Dec 2012 #1

That has me scratching my head Riftaxe Dec 2012 #2

Your whole post has me scratching mine. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #5

Folette and uren Riftaxe Dec 2012 #22

apparently we have to choose sides Riftaxe Dec 2012 #3

Liberal, because... LAGC Dec 2012 #4

I am aware of their history Riftaxe Dec 2012 #6

Also some progressives want to ban porn - as a liberal I find bans disgusting banned from Kos Dec 2012 #10

You know if you dunk someone in water and they cry out, they are liberal! el_bryanto Dec 2012 #7

I think "progressive" is a re-naming of "liberal" Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #8

I suspect it not as clear cut as that Riftaxe Dec 2012 #11

Liberal was successfully turned into a dirty Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #39

I agree with you. I find the these to terms Skidmore Dec 2012 #36

Let me know which group believes current military spending is fucking insane think Dec 2012 #9

Cut military spending by 80% Riftaxe Dec 2012 #12

All Progressives are also Liberal but not all Liberals are also Progressives. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #13

Lord, i only took a course in phiosophy Riftaxe Dec 2012 #15

I'm both MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #14

The problem I have with the word "liberal" gollygee Dec 2012 #16

Left over from the age of enlightment Riftaxe Dec 2012 #17

Liberals believe in free markets and free trade banned from Kos Dec 2012 #18

On this we do agree Riftaxe Dec 2012 #19

Socialism vs regulated economy zipplewrath Dec 2012 #20

The distinction is a very important one Riftaxe Dec 2012 #23

'Extremely/Strongly anti-nazi'. Mc Mike Dec 2012 #21

Liberal mean right-wing economic policy outside the US. Progressive is more historically accurate. Selatius Dec 2012 #24

Anti-authoritarian leftist or left libertarian, I think works for me. TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #25

In the end, i suspect progressives and liberals Riftaxe Dec 2012 #26

JFK's Remarks... Liberal... K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #27

A repost fron one of your earlier ones Riftaxe Dec 2012 #29

"Progressive" is the label the phoney, Third-Way types adopted to distance themselves Romulox Dec 2012 #28

Having voted for Bill twice Riftaxe Dec 2012 #30

Not even progressives zipplewrath Dec 2012 #31

+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #34

That's the way I see it too. forestpath Dec 2012 #35

Yep. nt raouldukelives Dec 2012 #38

I appreciate this post and this type of post. MrYikes Dec 2012 #32

Chinese Restaurant Menu slackmaster Dec 2012 #33

Most of us should learn to be more pragmatic. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #37

Your post got hidden because you falsely accused another DUer of thinking 'fuck the homeless' muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #40

Your OP needs some rewording. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #41