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One of the 99

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13. Nice rationalization.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:41 AM
Dec 2012

But that doesn't solve the problem that millions of people are going to suffer if we go off the fiscal cliff.

Can you explain what the fiscal cliff and losing foodstamps have in common? Melinda Dec 2012 #1
Part of the fiscal cliff is the sequestration One of the 99 Dec 2012 #2
I hear what you're saying, but it won't be quite like you suggest. Melinda Dec 2012 #5
I am currently receiving Fed extended unemployment benefits in CA, adminstered through EDD. stopbush Dec 2012 #8
Different program, different rules and regulations. Melinda Dec 2012 #10
I lost my eligibility for the extended benefits back in May, 2012, when CA no longer qualified for coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #86
Reclaiming History is a devastating read indeed. stopbush Dec 2012 #205
Yes it will. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #11
Sorry, but not necessarily with SNAP benefits. You are ignorant of the law, I get this. Melinda Dec 2012 #19
Go back and re-read the sequestration One of the 99 Dec 2012 #21
Post it, please. I'd like to see the law you believe applies. Melinda Dec 2012 #22
Plenty of good info One of the 99 Dec 2012 #43
Thanks, I'll peruse it at work. Clock is ticking, and I have to run for now. Melinda Dec 2012 #50
You're misinformed. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #217
I thought food stamps were exempt from sequestration democrattotheend Dec 2012 #206
The cliff will force them to do something and if it doesn't then I suspect a lot of congress will be still_one Dec 2012 #3
Seething??? One of the 99 Dec 2012 #4
Most of congress should be fired for incompetency and also not representing RKP5637 Dec 2012 #38
Can't disagree with you there. nt One of the 99 Dec 2012 #57
The problem: CrispyQ Dec 2012 #62
Exactly!!! And yet Americans keep voting them back into power ... because as some have RKP5637 Dec 2012 #67
Technical note: I believe the phrase 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires' may have originated with coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #99
Thanks!!! RKP5637 Dec 2012 #131
Isn't the 2naSalit Dec 2012 #6
Number 2 is just not true. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #12
so you think the GOP house is going to extend foodstamps and UI? 0rganism Dec 2012 #7
They have in the past. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #15
People who are young and unemployed will get jobs eventually. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #9
Nice rationalization. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #13
Yes people will suffer due to sequestration Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #23
Will you suffer? One of the 99 Dec 2012 #53
You simply don't understand what a chained CPI will do... Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #64
No you don't understand. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #66
The damage done to the US postal service Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #72
You're contradicting yourself. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #79
There will be more political will to stop Sequestration Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #134
The truth is One of the 99 Dec 2012 #138
So what are you suggesting? Just giving into boners "plan b"? That may provide the short term still_one Dec 2012 #126
Never once. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #215
you are right. However, since we last discussed, the republicans didn't even want their own plan. still_one Dec 2012 #221
Unfortunately One of the 99 Dec 2012 #223
I hope so still_one Dec 2012 #225
The money is owed to the people on Social Security and to the federal retirees. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #214
I don't disagree One of the 99 Dec 2012 #216
I was just thinking about cuts to the Section 8 program SummerSnow Dec 2012 #55
I am 48 and have two kids and an 81 year old mother who lives with me. renie408 Dec 2012 #85
Cuts due to the so-called "fiscal cliff" can be undone in January gollygee Dec 2012 #14
If you can't feed your kids for the first few weeks in January One of the 99 Dec 2012 #16
We won't retake the house gollygee Dec 2012 #17
+1 Liberalynn Dec 2012 #30
+1, n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #39
Good post Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #20
The fact that they are making these 'cuts' now implies that they could be renie408 Dec 2012 #87
Why do you put the word "panicked" in front of the deal for January gollygee Dec 2012 #91
The fiscal cliff talk will be no more come January Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #147
reminding people about the unemployment benifits Riftaxe Dec 2012 #18
Nice broad brush you swing there. Melinda Dec 2012 #24
It is my understanding unemployment benefits are one of Riftaxe Dec 2012 #26
You say Duers don't care about those in poverty, then respond to me with a personal attack? Melinda Dec 2012 #40
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #41
.... Melinda Dec 2012 #47
Many, many people relying on social security are poor gollygee Dec 2012 #25
Oh dear, i suspect i am a hell of a lot more aware of Riftaxe Dec 2012 #28
You're making some huge assumptions about me gollygee Dec 2012 #36
Look this is a lose lose situation for the poor Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #29
There is no arguing that Riftaxe Dec 2012 #32
+1 Liberalynn Dec 2012 #33
So you're arguing that it is better One of the 99 Dec 2012 #46
The damage done to the US postal service Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #49
Well said Liberalynn Dec 2012 #35
Yup, and I am one of the poor collecting social security. n/t RebelOne Dec 2012 #193
God forbid you use Republican logic hfojvt Dec 2012 #140
Yours is exactly the reaction Obama is counting on to let him cut SS for everybody MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #27
So being concerned about people One of the 99 Dec 2012 #51
Nothing could say better how Obama is turning needy people against each other in order to MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #58
So everything in Obama's fault. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #71
It IS Obama's fault. He's making a totally unnecessary concession. If he hadn't been doing that MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #132
The President is not perfect One of the 99 Dec 2012 #135
That was then. Obama has now been reelected with a comfortable margin. Yet he is still offering MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #144
Sorry but that is not reality One of the 99 Dec 2012 #159
Please don't attribute thought to me that I don't have. What I do think is that Obama offering MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #169
Again that is your opinion. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #173
No it is REALITY. SS has NOTHING to do with the deficit. That is a fact. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #182
That is true. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #185
the left didn't stay home in 2010.. frylock Dec 2012 #194
Maybe so One of the 99 Dec 2012 #208
Democrats Try to Crack Mystery of the Missing Voters frylock Dec 2012 #211
No one is cheering about either option Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #65
And the long term is that One of the 99 Dec 2012 #69
The problem is it won't. duffyduff Dec 2012 #78
You don't know that. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #123
You're making by far the more dangerous and unsupportable assumption, all to defend a president MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #133
In your opinion. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #139
It all comes down to him. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #149
in that case he's won. (If that's his agenda) Chan790 Dec 2012 #141
Good luck to you. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #157
I work in SNAP, there are no changes coming, cliff or no cliff. Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #31
Thank you for clearing that up Liberalynn Dec 2012 #34
Hey Puzzledtraveller, Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #37
If the 2012 Farm Bill does not pass, then the previous Farm Bill remains in effect Melinda Dec 2012 #45
It kicks in immediately. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #48
you seem to be spreading misinformation. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #219
No I made a mistake One of the 99 Dec 2012 #224
Really? One of the 99 Dec 2012 #56
From whom specifically did she get the letter? gollygee Dec 2012 #60
Absolutely Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #68
From whatever government agency One of the 99 Dec 2012 #77
Stop spreading your stupid bullshit up and down this thread, MadHound Dec 2012 #84
It's not just Food Stamps and Medicare One of the 99 Dec 2012 #101
And again, none of it takes place right away, MadHound Dec 2012 #111
Some will take place right away. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #120
Really? Then scan the letter and let us see it, MadHound Dec 2012 #130
Yes it was from a state agency. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #145
Thank you, you finally admitted that at least one thing that you're posting is BS MadHound Dec 2012 #164
Stop trying to censor me. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #178
not true at all obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #222
+1 Owl Dec 2012 #107
+Graham's Number whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #122
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #172
Thank you. You speak for me too. n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #187
We are not going to have Congress on our side any time in the foreseeable future gollygee Dec 2012 #94
Maybe not in 2 years One of the 99 Dec 2012 #97
I doubt it gollygee Dec 2012 #103
It may take 10 years One of the 99 Dec 2012 #112
In 10 years gollygee Dec 2012 #119
That is supposition One of the 99 Dec 2012 #128
Current reality is that we can't undo social security cuts and won't be able to in the foreseeable gollygee Dec 2012 #129
So your saying that GOP One of the 99 Dec 2012 #148
Probably not forever gollygee Dec 2012 #151
Agreed. The intention disinfo program is harmful. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #96
I think it's the difference between SNAP receiving cuts in the program Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #61
But there is still a $7.7 Billion cut to Food Stamps One of the 99 Dec 2012 #73
Wrong, wrong, and wrong Report1212 Dec 2012 #42
They are not unrelated. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #44
Articles still missing the mark Report1212 Dec 2012 #52
They are part of the sequester One of the 99 Dec 2012 #54
According to this link, SNAP (food stamps) are NOT affected by the sequester. yodermon Dec 2012 #59
Thank you for the link Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #83
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #174
but but my friend got a letter.. frylock Dec 2012 #197
Stop spreading disinformation MadHound Dec 2012 #63
MadHound Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #75
That's not the whole story. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #90
Stop spreading your disinformation, MadHound Dec 2012 #116
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #175
So old people are to be the sacrificial lambs. Gotcha. That's the new meme around here. forestpath Dec 2012 #70
So the poor and unemployed or sacrificial lambs instead. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #81
No one should be a sacrificial lamb gollygee Dec 2012 #100
Why? One of the 99 Dec 2012 #106
The Republicans won't vote en masse to end food stamps gollygee Dec 2012 #108
That is not logical One of the 99 Dec 2012 #114
You must not know much about Congress gollygee Dec 2012 #121
Yes it does. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #152
You are the ones insisting it is either/or. One day everyone will go over Obama's cliff. forestpath Dec 2012 #102
I see more cruelty One of the 99 Dec 2012 #110
The cruelty is using seniors for scapegoats. That's what you and President Obama are doing. forestpath Dec 2012 #124
So it is better to make the poor and needy scapegoats now. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #150
True, why is anyone even putting that on the table? treestar Dec 2012 #74
Because One of the 99 Dec 2012 #82
Saving Social Security is Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #98
So the hell with the poor and needy now? One of the 99 Dec 2012 #104
A chained CPI is immediate once in place Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #113
And it can always be reversed One of the 99 Dec 2012 #117
It'll NEVER be reversed durablend Dec 2012 #143
It's not reality to say One of the 99 Dec 2012 #161
Yes it is immediate. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #125
Their has to be a political will for that to be undone Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #137
But we can create that political will One of the 99 Dec 2012 #163
What a load of nonsense Autumn Dec 2012 #76
Not nonsense One of the 99 Dec 2012 #95
This is the same phony 'hide behind the poor' bullshit we heard two years ago, when Marr Dec 2012 #80
Not phoney if you're dependant on Food Stamps or One of the 99 Dec 2012 #88
Food stamp are shielded. If you run out of benefits you qualify for help Autumn Dec 2012 #118
So it is OK One of the 99 Dec 2012 #155
So it's okay that the poor and needy suffer so you can win an ideological victory? Autumn Dec 2012 #165
When did I ever advocate for tax cuts for the wealthy. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #181
If you want this deal, which does nothing but harm the needy, yeah this deal is to Autumn Dec 2012 #188
Going off the fiscal cliff harms the needy One of the 99 Dec 2012 #189
I'm done, have a nice holiday n/t Autumn Dec 2012 #190
How Dare You... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #89
Sequestration doesn't work in the manner you describe Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #92
The Debt Ceiling Is Separate From Sequestration... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #136
That is the point Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #142
The "Cliff" Is...The Debt Ceiling Isn't... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #154
The debt ceiling can be dealt with Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #162
Confusion Is The Politician's Best Friend... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #192
I think that based on what happened last Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #196
The Last Time... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #200
LOL nt One of the 99 Dec 2012 #93
And that right there is the response... Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #105
Tell it! But you have to assume that everyone who's carping is really a "liberal" or "progressive". Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #109
Ah... and here come the folks whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #127
The President is Good Light. Cha Dec 2012 #220
As msanthrope would quip: "you Better Believe It!" great white snark Dec 2012 #177
!!!! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #213
absolute bullshit Enrique Dec 2012 #115
Nonsense. 99Forever Dec 2012 #146
being lied to? Enrique Dec 2012 #153
Maybe.. 99Forever Dec 2012 #158
by this logic there are no limits on GOP power Enrique Dec 2012 #156
No saying the chained CPI One of the 99 Dec 2012 #167
How will this affect unemployment? drm604 Dec 2012 #160
I'm not certain about this One of the 99 Dec 2012 #170
I'm concerned most about my immediate benefits; the next few weeks or months. drm604 Dec 2012 #204
My neighbor ran out of employment benefits 2 weeks ago, She applied for aid Autumn Dec 2012 #171
Good for her. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #184
So, what do you propose? That we go along with the Democrats caving..again? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #166
Compromise is not caving. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #180
It is when you when you you give up the most. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #183
How is it the most? One of the 99 Dec 2012 #186
Chained CPI, cutting more from SS than the military. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #191
That's still not giving up the most. One of the 99 Dec 2012 #207
If it's not so important why are the Republicans and 3rd Way so focused on it? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #210
There are deals that would be worse for more people over the long run, in order to avoid the "cliff" MNBrewer Dec 2012 #168
This old chestnut gets trotted out every time whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #176
No that's the old chestnut One of the 99 Dec 2012 #179
Some would rather score a victory for their "team" than do something to help those in need. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #195
No that is not true at all Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #198
I don't speak to any person in particular. However, there is a faction of the population -- NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #199
We know the Tea party wants total victory Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #203
Neither is being endlessly blackmailed. aquart Dec 2012 #201
We need new much more co-operative ways to live and work in order to maximize tax-funded resources patrice Dec 2012 #202
So, the choices are.. Teamster Jeff Dec 2012 #209
but MNBrewer Dec 2012 #212
Food stamps are exempt. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #218
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