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In reply to the discussion: Even if the US had adequate mental health coverage, how does one force a mentally ill person [View all]TheBlackAdder
(28,028 posts)60. Florida had a thing where physicians were 5250ing elderly with no family to fund their clinics.
Doctors were just going around randomly institutionalizing elderly seniors who had no family.
These seniors were being placed into the doctor's own care facility so the doctor was able to fund his business on the backs of the state and federal systems. The 'patients' would then be released after 2 weeks of 'observation' and another 'patient' would then get 5250'd.
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Even if the US had adequate mental health coverage, how does one force a mentally ill person [View all]
graywarrior
Dec 2012
OP
I agree. No real solution unless we want to strip the mentally ill of their civil rights.
Happyhippychick
Dec 2012
#15
It's frustrating because if he got treatment, his life would not be so complicated.
graywarrior
Dec 2012
#9
It depends on the state, but generally it comes down to demonstrating a danger to self or others,
Brickbat
Dec 2012
#7
I can tell you from personal experience, generally you can't force anyone into treatment.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#12
Damn it slackmaster, given your experience it seems like a lose-lose situation in many cases. Other
jody
Dec 2012
#17
Despite heroic efforts by the police and medical professionals and myself, the only person...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#18
So sorry for you. I have several friends from Vietnam, one an Aussie Squadron Leader, commit suicide
jody
Dec 2012
#25
Yes it is. I'm in a cold sweat right now from thinking about it. I was in therapy for 4 months.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#26
"hate me and bully me"! I'm an old man and held many responsible positions in govt., education, and
jody
Dec 2012
#40
I know, even when he sees his primary care doctor, he's pissed for a few days after.
graywarrior
Dec 2012
#24
Yes, my friend who I had "5150'd" absolutely hated my guts when she got out
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#27
They only have to be stable enough to tell the police "I'm fine" and maintain for a few minutes
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#28
Thanks for that. My actions in the case outlined here were taylored to San Diego, and the victim.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#42
Florida had a thing where physicians were 5250ing elderly with no family to fund their clinics.
TheBlackAdder
Dec 2012
#60
If you can't get them Baker acted, at least talk to police and get a paper trail started.
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#32
Thanks. :^) I just thought it might help to hear from someone who has the DX.
GreenPartyVoter
Dec 2012
#72
Tama, you've pegged it. Almost makes me hope the Mayan 12/21/12 prediction is correct. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#41
It's very hard to get somebody commited nowadays because it was horribly abused...
Odin2005
Dec 2012
#44
Yes and if a person is a paranoid schizophrenic (like someone else I know) they
graywarrior
Dec 2012
#49
I am in favor of compulsory annual mental health exams for school kids...
Comrade_McKenzie
Dec 2012
#45
I think the point is that we don't know who is a threat to themselves or others...
randome
Dec 2012
#58
You can't. So the solution is to make mass slaughter virtually impossible for them
riderinthestorm
Dec 2012
#59
You could see a lawyer about getting the person committed to an institution.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#78