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proud2BlibKansan

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9. There is no such thing as a perfect score on a standardized test

Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:04 PM

Jan 2012

A 100% messes up the norms so they always include questions that can't be answered correctly.

And we think we can teach our children to do well on these tests, which were NEVER intended to be used to assess individual progress as they are being used under NCLB.

It's really ridiculous.

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What happened when 3 PhDs decided to take a 3rd grade practice test [View all] proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 OP

This is outrageous alcibiades_mystery Jan 2012 #1

That's probably a district policy proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #7

both boys way above their grade level in reading. 4 or more years above. they were always encouraged seabeyond Jan 2012 #23

I never got the whole "not allowed to read above the grade level" thing Posteritatis Jan 2012 #28

As was I, in the sixties. My mom had some rather pointed words with one of my gkhouston Jan 2012 #38

Thanks to my school system's stellar budgeting, checking out stuff above my level wasn't a problem Posteritatis Jan 2012 #39

The thought is to obey authority. Sirveri Jan 2012 #46

"you will obey them or be punished" Trillo Jan 2012 #75

My second grade teacher in Florence, KY was named Miss Ockerman OriginalGeek Jan 2012 #77

Not so frequent. Igel Jan 2012 #42

Yes, this. boppers Jan 2012 #49

That's moronic XemaSab Jan 2012 #62

That's ghastly! Such a policy is new to me. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #61

Yeah, that's the part that made me really angry also. distantearlywarning Jan 2012 #74

What a bunch of elitist crap! justiceischeap Jan 2012 #2

By the time I was in 3rd grade I was reading at 12th grade level. My teachers, kestrel91316 Jan 2012 #22

I was the same way EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2012 #31

that's no big deal. At the age of 5 I was reading double-PhD material. provis99 Jan 2012 #55

I made it all the way to 24th grade! jberryhill Jan 2012 #59

Do you remember how they determined what grade level you were at? Prometheus Bound Jan 2012 #64

I think it was noticed by my inattention to things. justiceischeap Jan 2012 #67

What a terrible shame.. To take something annabanana Jan 2012 #3

I can't comment on the story, but I think it's a great question. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #71

I read it as "Tikki-eyed Mista", sub-consciously inserting the missing hyphen. Trillo Jan 2012 #4

Me too -- and I'm naming my new rock band Atman Jan 2012 #41

Same here. Actually, the whole tiger story sounds like gibberish. yardwork Jan 2012 #44

Oh, idioms like that pop up all over the place Occulus Jan 2012 #54

As I'm a much slower reader than probably 99% of y'all, kentauros Jan 2012 #45

Copy/paste thing boppers Jan 2012 #52

As I said, kentauros Jan 2012 #56

Always skim the questions before reading the essay jberryhill Jan 2012 #60

Shows what happens when someone writes questions on something they know nothing about n2doc Jan 2012 #5

These Are Typical Standardized Test Questions Yavin4 Jan 2012 #13

No, this is a great question. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #70

What a stupid question. Kalidurga Jan 2012 #6

yes Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2012 #8

No. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #72

There is no such thing as a perfect score on a standardized test proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #9

No, it's a great question. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #69

i m a teacher and i see poorly worded test questions all the time arely staircase Jan 2012 #10

My Third Grader grntuscarora Jan 2012 #11

WHy is it about tigers anything? Betsy Ross Jan 2012 #12

Me, too, because tigers don't talk. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #18

exactly Marnie Jan 2012 #21

grubs used to be a normal part of the typical human diet eShirl Jan 2012 #66

Thanks for saying it..... Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #19

Reading in context is everything. boppers Jan 2012 #47

I wonder how that teacher would react to my kids who read two books at once riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #14

Some of this could be due to TPTB wanting children to watch TV Trillo Jan 2012 #15

K&R Solly Mack Jan 2012 #16

They gave up after the first question? Prometheus Bound Jan 2012 #17

I've worked with both practice and real tests at every grade level from K through 6. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #20

I've come to believe that the PURPOSE of these tests is to make children hate learning Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #25

I really don't want to believe that proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #34

Charles Dickens eerily foretold what we could expect in "Hard Times" coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #53

The problem with all sort answer tests is that the person taking the test has to be Marnie Jan 2012 #26

These types of questions test understanding of the text, not knowledge. Prometheus Bound Jan 2012 #63

The right answer is Tiggers like to bounce! Loudmxr Jan 2012 #24

k&r Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #27

my son took an all day test last week. he was telling me about the story and question seabeyond Jan 2012 #29

wouldn't something like this lead to black/white thinking ? JI7 Jan 2012 #30

Hopefully. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #79

That's an excellent question, and the right answer is c), of course. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #32

That's my first choice proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #35

I looked at my kid's science test. Igel Jan 2012 #43

I got C too. I learned to do well on tests, because, well, my brain functions oddly. boppers Jan 2012 #48

Your one is a classic fallacy Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #51

There was no discussion of the positions when each was dropped. Only the height and time. boppers Jan 2012 #57

Here's my version derby378 Jan 2012 #33

E proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #36

I would like to read more stories from your "Newt is fucked" series. JBoy Jan 2012 #40

BEST post I've seen in a very long time! davsand Jan 2012 #58

Aw, shucks... derby378 Jan 2012 #78

I've run into this same nonsense when going over homework with my kids. redqueen Jan 2012 #37

There is an opt out movement proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #50

This one is a perfectly good question, not nonsense at all! Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #68

I wasn't actually referring to this example... redqueen Jan 2012 #76

Interesting breakdown of responses to this malthaussen Jan 2012 #65

"What did the tigers do together" is pointless banality. What was the story *really* about is not. ieoeja Jan 2012 #73