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Segami

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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:41 PM Dec 2012

Can We Please Stop Pretending Obama is “Capitulating” on Social Security? [View all]






FireDogLake

Jane Hamsher:


Everywhere you look, the media narrative is that President Obama is “capitulating” to Republicans by agreeing to cuts in Social Security benefits. And I have to ask, where is this collective political amnesia coming from? Obama has made a deliberate and concerted effort to cut Social Security benefits since the time he took office. FDL reported on February 12, 2009 that the White House was meeting behind closed doors to consider ways to cut Social Security benefits, and that the framework they were using was the Diamond-Orszag plan, which was co-authored by OMB Director Peter Orszag when he was at the Brookings Institute.




The birth of the now-ubiquitous “catfood” meme came on February 18, 2009 with this FDL headline:


Hedge Fund Billionaire Pete Peterson Key Speaker At Obama “Fiscal Responsibility Summit,” Will Tell Us All Why Little Old Ladies Must Eat Cat Food
http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/18/hedge-fund-billionaire-pete-peterson-key-speaker-at-obama-fiscal-responsibility-summit-will-tell-us-all-why-little-old-ladies-must-eat-cat-food-so-social-security-can-be-saved/




As I wrote in August of 2010, Peterson’s keynote spot was the worst kept secret in town; I knew about it because I had been on a conference call with about 40 representatives of various DC interest groups, many of whom had received written notice from the White House that Peterson was scheduled to headline the event. But nobody wanted to go on the record for fear of jeopardizing their relationship with the administration in its early days. After FDL broke the news, Peterson was “disinvited” from the summit. Both he and the White House denied everything, but Robert Kuttner subsequently confirmed in the Washington Post that Peterson had, in fact, been scheduled as the keynote speaker that day.



The administration backed off its immediate plans for reforming Social Security. The New York Times reported that they were “running into opposition from his party’s left” who are “vehement in opposing any reductions in scheduled benefits for future retirees.” But NYT columnist David Brooks reported that shortly after the summit, “four senior members of the administration” called him to say that Obama “is extremely committed to entitlement reform and is plotting politically feasible ways to reduce Social Security.” Undeterred, the White House began telling journalists off the record http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1881223,00.html that they were interested in “establishing an independent commission (outside the congressional committee structure) to look at creating a specific reform plan.”



In January of 2010, a bill sponsored by committed Social Security slashers Judd Gregg and Kent Conrad which would have created an official commission to make recommendations about the nation’s deficit was defeated by the Senate on a bipartisan vote — 22 Democrats and 24 Republicans voted no. After the Senate defeat, on February 18, President Obama issued an executive order creating what subsequently became known as the “Catfood Commission” anyway. Unlike Bill Clinton’s Danforth Commission, which ended in deadlock, Obama set this commission up in such a way that it was stacked with deficit hawks who largely agreed on what needed to be done: 12 of the 18 members were to be appointed by Senate and House leaders in each party, and 6 would be appointed by the President. This virtually guaranteed that Social Security privatization fetishist Paul Ryan would be on the commission, as would Gregg and Conrad.










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Fuck Jane Hamsher... SidDithers Dec 2012 #1
Why? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #12
Jane and Grover sitting in a tree K I S S I N G jpak Dec 2012 #22
huh? progressoid Dec 2012 #26
Jane and Norquist formed a deal many years ago...She's one of those progressives who try to take him ray of light Dec 2012 #45
Oh, Kind of like "Fuck Chuck Schumer" progressoid Dec 2012 #64
Whatever... They claim to be progressive but they sleep with Norquist (metaphorically) ray of light Dec 2012 #69
Tell you what. Let Sid answer if he will. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #51
And we all know he'll bullshit his way out of this. Panasonic Dec 2012 #78
'Cause Jane referred to ardent Obama supporters as "the dumbest motherfuckers in the world"... SidDithers Dec 2012 #62
She's got the fringe left fooled that she's some sort of progressive. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #63
Alright. I made a good faith effort to answer... SidDithers Dec 2012 #67
I was being serious. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #76
"Dyed red or pink"? aquart Dec 2012 #77
Hmmm. Oh, I just LOVE purge-passionate purists. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #79
I heartily agree with this sentiment! NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #24
and if shr is right .... whst then roguevalley Dec 2012 #47
And if Fox News is right about something ... what then? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #59
who does. roguevalley Dec 2012 #81
If you don't know who Pete Peterson is, please Google his name. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #49
That's obnoxious, Sid. leveymg Dec 2012 #52
I'm wounded that you feel that way... SidDithers Dec 2012 #56
I saw that little sneer when you said that, Sid. leveymg Dec 2012 #74
Nice contribution to the conversation. Too bad she was right. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #58
Funny. Attack FDL but not the content of what was said. donheld Dec 2012 #82
Indeed. This is something the political/business establishment has been Marr Dec 2012 #2
+1 Voters destroyed the GOP in 2006 & 2008 leftstreet Dec 2012 #3
Reverse psychology - He played Democratic voters like a violin arjazz Dec 2012 #8
And restored them to power in 2010, for whatever insane reason. MH1 Dec 2012 #32
The cliff was the best deal JEB Dec 2012 #66
yes but hen the voters stayed home in 2010 - leading to all those republicans that are now trying leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #41
Americans like winners who act like they won Fumesucker Dec 2012 #57
not to mention the FICA cuts.....now, for first time in history, it is true to say that Social Secur amborin Dec 2012 #4
The FICA cuts, cuts in payroll taxes that support Social Security and Medicare, are the giveaway JDPriestly Dec 2012 #50
"adding to the deficit" = repaying part of the money borrowed from SS. The 1983 SS amendments HiPointDem Dec 2012 #73
This is the bottom line...............nft plethoro Dec 2012 #5
I always DESPISED FDL RomneyLies Dec 2012 #6
Who wanted to see a truth this ugly? Hydra Dec 2012 #71
It was very well planned and thought out from the get go arjazz Dec 2012 #7
Yes, this administration has been corporatist from Day One. woo me with science Dec 2012 #9
+100 RC Dec 2012 #13
+1000 Segami Dec 2012 #14
+1 forestpath Dec 2012 #17
+1 and look at the choices made available to us. We have a binary system of 0/0. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #75
Where am I reading this thread? Isoldeblue Dec 2012 #10
Why would Heritage complain? this was their plan. Doctor_J Dec 2012 #16
how can you say that think_critically Dec 2012 #35
Just a few minor corrections. ieoeja Dec 2012 #60
+1 ^this^ progressoid Dec 2012 #65
"gets us towards universal health care " ??? bvar22 Dec 2012 #61
I agree with you! denvine Dec 2012 #42
Agreed brush Dec 2012 #46
and we thought the president was a democrat, we thought ss was off the table seems like the only leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #43
Good cop/bad cop, or "the unreasonable partner"... Romulox Dec 2012 #11
Sad but true Doctor_J Dec 2012 #15
A lot of people were snowed. woo me with science Dec 2012 #18
They are Masters of their craft. Segami Dec 2012 #19
Marketing woo me with science Dec 2012 #23
Election night 2008 was the closest I have come to tearing up Doctor_J Dec 2012 #20
All one had to do was actually pay attention to what he said duffyduff Dec 2012 #30
Look. Obama is a great person, a wonderful father and thousands times better than Romney. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #55
Obama is not stupid. woo me with science Dec 2012 #68
His economic policies, with regard to the chained cost of living increases, his appointments of JDPriestly Dec 2012 #70
Corporate money floods Washington, both parties included. woo me with science Dec 2012 #72
Haha! FireDogLake... NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #21
well said!!!! n/t Sheepshank Dec 2012 #31
What you said. MH1 Dec 2012 #33
FDL = LOL jpak Dec 2012 #25
Hamsher, Queen of the Trolls MjolnirTime Dec 2012 #27
^^^This^^^^ truebrit71 Dec 2012 #48
Pffffttttt! Next! nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #28
I never started stupidicus Dec 2012 #29
No I think all the hysteria is healthy. Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #34
I agree. The devil will be in the final details......you know, Segami Dec 2012 #40
Jane Hamsher? Really? Trashing thread Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #36
Who's "pretending"? MNBrewer Dec 2012 #37
Occupy? ...What's that? ...You know, Occupy! reeds2012 Dec 2012 #38
what a surprise. Jane's stink is back. Whisp Dec 2012 #39
Yep damnedifIknow Dec 2012 #44
Yup he has been more than willing to cut SS all along. craigmatic Dec 2012 #53
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Dec 2012 #54
DU REC +1 nt Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #80
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