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bighart

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25. Was talking to a friend this morning who is an avid gun collector.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:07 AM
Dec 2012

He is absolutely appalled by all of these mass shootings and is always willing to have an open conversation about gun control.
His take is that there should be a background check done on every gun transaction even when sold by a private individual to another
private individual. He told me he would support restrictions or bans on clips over 15 in capacity. When I asked why 15 he stated that when he is "plinking" (ie target shooting cans, bottles, jugs etc) he doesn't like to reload a lot. He did say that he is open to discussion on this subject and would not be too concerned if the capacity was lower.
When the subject of a complete ban came up like Japan he asked me to name another right that was written in the constitution that has been taken away, I couldn't.
He also stated that since part of the oath of office for the president and congress is to "protect and defend the constitution" that any such attempt to eliminate a right enumerated in the constitution may well be viewed by some as treason or at least grounds for impeachment or recall.

At the end of the day he and I both agree that we have to address the root causes, easy access to guns and whatever societal issues (ie mental health care and lack of respect for life) lie at the heart of the problem. There is no quick fix, no easy solution, but with continued attention and calls for change we can begin moving to a more sane policy toward guns and address some of the underlying causes of this kind of thing.

One other point he made was that there have been more people killed by gun violence in Chicago this year than the number of troops killed in Afghanistan and he wondered why there isn't outrage of that fact. Good point in my view.

You are right, but of course they will give you a reason. Using their logic we should be able to still_one Dec 2012 #1
Yes, I had one use this "logic" the other day during a discussion. Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #27
It will not happen for semi auto RegieRocker Dec 2012 #2
Good way of not adressing the point in the OP Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #26
That is the norm here. RegieRocker Dec 2012 #33
only 4 million people belong to the nra in a nation of 300 million...i will not mark your words spanone Dec 2012 #34
You have no clue RegieRocker Dec 2012 #35
MOAR GUNZ!! RomneyLies Dec 2012 #3
Or as I call it, FREEDUMB! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #24
There is nothing with semi-auto rifles as long as you limit capacity SpartanDem Dec 2012 #4
Having been around gun nuts, immersed in the gun culture, MadHound Dec 2012 #6
I agree with you that it would be good to ban semi-automatic weapons with detachable magazines Recursion Dec 2012 #5
I agree that it would not be politically feasible. DanTex Dec 2012 #28
Remember how polls show people hate health care reform but love its actual provisions? Recursion Dec 2012 #30
I agree. DanTex Dec 2012 #31
And there is absolutely no need for a mode of transportation that goes faster than a horse can run. jody Dec 2012 #7
I find it interesting that some folks know enough about us to inform us what our "needs" are derby378 Dec 2012 #8
Well if you know so much what do you suggest or do you doc03 Dec 2012 #12
I bought a sks this year, MrYikes Dec 2012 #9
Hear! Hear! - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #10
Semi-auto Sgent Dec 2012 #11
There's no need for ignorance either. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #13
Well what would you suggest? nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #15
I think more stringent background checks and emphasis on disallowing access to unfit persons. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #16
I dont like the sound of "I'm not sure there can be anything done from a legislative point of view." rhett o rick Dec 2012 #17
Not immediately, anyways. Like you said, there needs to be a cultural change and OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #18
That's what I kinda thought. I guess we should just learn to accept mass killing of 5 and 6 year old rhett o rick Dec 2012 #19
No one said society can't get it's shit together... OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2012 #20
Of course there is a solution. Most other modern countries have found the solution. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #22
Well said n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #14
There's absolutely no need for a car that does 120, either. malthaussen Dec 2012 #21
a 30-06 is what I have for deer hunting. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #23
Was talking to a friend this morning who is an avid gun collector. bighart Dec 2012 #25
IMO the male obsession to achieve extreme marchioness drives the compulsion to obtain ever ladjf Dec 2012 #29
... but I have a serious Zombie problem in my neighborhood JPZenger Dec 2012 #32
Semi-auto is nice to have for a birding shotgun, but that third shot almost NEVER hits a bird. slampoet Dec 2012 #36
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