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JohnnyRingo

(19,914 posts) Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:04 AM Apr 15

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It just occurred to me why they may not want to return Kilmar Garca [View all]

I might be off base, but it seems odd that this one man is the hill they're willing to die on. Just one guy they could easily return, but they hold steadfast.

García can talk. He can describe in frightening detail the kind of un American torture being administered by Trump and his heartless cabinet. It may well be beyond what we even imagine, like Holocaust level. Something they have no qualms about but don't want to be all over the global media.

If it comes down to Trump being cornered into returning him, he may just meet with an unfortunate "mishap" in prison.

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It just occurred to me why they may not want to return Kilmar Garca [View all] JohnnyRingo Apr 15 OP

of course. He can't come back and talk. This poor guy has to disappear. chicoescuela Apr 15 #1

I have thought this also. With the actions of the administration about this, I think Garcia isn't with us OLDMDDEM Apr 15 #2

I so hope you are wrong ReRe Apr 15 #92

You might be right. redstatebluegirl Apr 15 #3

See my post from last Saturday. I agree totally. usaf-vet Apr 15 #93

I think it's something way worse than that, gab13by13 Apr 15 #4

Agree 100% That is exactly what they are doing. Now what shoild our Counter be to their plans? bluestarone Apr 15 #12

Mass popular uprising Cirsium Apr 15 #39

You are absolutely correct. hadEnuf Apr 15 #56

Amassing bold power, yes Cirsium Apr 15 #59

When they kill rule of law, we are not bound by that either JCMach1 Apr 15 #63

That is one part of a 2 pronged approach InstantGratification Apr 15 #21

Yes, exactly. W made all this possible. Walleye Apr 15 #55

All in lockstep with his poppy's new world order Clouds Passing Apr 15 #85

Trump's already said AdamGG Apr 16 #96

Your independently arrived at point is supported by other writers in the media. Good thinking. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 15 #5

The prison is said to be the most dangerous prison in the world. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #6

Supposedly the "prison" is set up to never let a person sent there to ever return to the public. LiberalArkie Apr 15 #37

Not unlikely The Madcap Apr 15 #38

We were warned samplegirl Apr 15 #94

Maybe they are using the prisoners as slave labor? Irish_Dem Apr 15 #41

That is the normal method everywhere. I had read that the Dachau and others were set up for that, but as more and more LiberalArkie Apr 15 #51

After seeing Bukele laugh and smirk at the thought of shipping Americans Irish_Dem Apr 15 #62

It may be too early to truthfully know what is going on at CECOT. But since no prisoner is allowed outside, and only LiberalArkie Apr 15 #68

Interesting theory here. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #72

Yea, Once a country dehumanizing a people, calls them terrorists, calls them "all are Hamas" it never turns out good. LiberalArkie Apr 15 #74

The GOP deliberately used propaganda to create hatred and loathing. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #75

Hatred of their fellow citizens seems to be the standard playbook. Whites hating redskins and blacks and Irish etc LiberalArkie Apr 15 #76

If you can appeal to the dark underbelly of human nature Irish_Dem Apr 15 #77

Yep... A variation of LBJ's statement LiberalArkie Apr 15 #78

Could be using them for psychological or drug experiments? lostnfound Apr 16 #98

Yes I wondered about something connected to the drug and sex trafficking trade. Irish_Dem Apr 16 #99

Are you saying that there are Chinese bots on DU Crunchy Frog Apr 15 #67

Huh, the article is not my post. But there are BOTs everywhere. LiberalArkie Apr 15 #69

Sorry. Didn't understand exactly what the post was saying. Crunchy Frog Apr 15 #71

Would it be feasible to boycott products from Linda ladeewolf Apr 15 #86

It would hurt the ES economy. The US is their major export destination. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #87

6 million does not go far. Linda ladeewolf Apr 15 #88

What is the $6M figure? Irish_Dem Apr 15 #89

Ahh , bribes then. Linda ladeewolf Apr 16 #107

There has to be some big money attached to the El Salvador concentration camp scheme. Irish_Dem Apr 16 #108

I think it's fairly simple.... Happy Hoosier Apr 15 #7

Exactly right. We can't let them get away with this. nt babylonsister Apr 15 #9

100% BeerBarrelPolka Apr 15 #20

Kidnap an American and take them out of the country. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #42

Exactly Diraven Apr 15 #46

👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿THIS!!!👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿 Nazis didn't use the excuse that those foreigners did it but Putin's Puppet can uponit7771 Apr 15 #48

Trump loathes the judiciary. NCDem47 Apr 15 #8

Likely already dead. Joinfortmill Apr 15 #10

Agree Strelnikov_ Apr 15 #90

Re-appearing Garcia would be an admission he made a mistake and others can tell him what to do. sop Apr 15 #11

Right. And it would dominate the news. progressoid Apr 15 #15

Completely agree underpants Apr 15 #28

Or they are trying to provoke massive protests. milestogo Apr 15 #13

Yep!... MiHale Apr 15 #17

We saw it in the anti-Vietnam war protests. Agent provocateur is an old tactic, which unfortunately, works too often Attilatheblond Apr 15 #83

What i have always thought. Amaryllis Apr 15 #14

No. Has nothing to do with it. stopdiggin Apr 15 #16

I believe this is the hill to die on because if they win this one, by refusing to return him Bev54 Apr 15 #18

It's a play right out of the Stalin era (and later Communist policies). The Gulag Archipelagos, Texin Apr 15 #19

Stalin even had official photos edited to remove the dissapeared IbogaProject Apr 15 #24

History Iamscrewed Apr 15 #22

There is one more possibility. louis-t Apr 15 #23

And he probably could tell more stories of other innocent men there. colorado_ufo Apr 15 #25

The president of El Salvador operates on money. colorado_ufo Apr 15 #26

I think he's dead and probably before he even arrived there and that's why they are doubling down. lark Apr 15 #27

this whole mess DENVERPOPS Apr 15 #29

Midnight Express? Ananda62 Apr 15 #34

That sounds like the one! ShazzieB Apr 15 #58

Bingo DENVERPOPS Apr 15 #91

Xenophobic psychotics like the Trump team C_U_L8R Apr 15 #30

So true TommieMommy Apr 15 #31

Show judges as weak until the knife wounds heal. eom. Festivito Apr 15 #32

That's what I've been thinking all along. NH Ethylene Apr 15 #33

I fully expect the Trump regime Quanto Magnus Apr 15 #35

We already know what was done at Gitmo milestogo Apr 15 #36

You are thinking exactly what I've been thinking Ohioboy Apr 15 #40

That's Part Of It. I Think It Might Have More To Do WiVoter Apr 15 #43

Exactly Deep State Witch Apr 15 #44

Bingo! My thoughts exactly. Bo Zarts Apr 15 #45

"Official act" and all that. Solomon Apr 16 #101

loose lips sink ships. E. Normus Apr 15 #47

CBS reported 75% of the people sent there had zero criminal Bluethroughu Apr 15 #49

A sane president would've asked for his return... Harker Apr 15 #50

Or he might have already been killed & they can't bring him back unless he's in a coffin. n/t aggiesal Apr 15 #52

CNN VIDEO: Inside the Salvadoran mega-prison where US deportees live IronLionZion Apr 15 #53

60 Minutes Video: What records show about the migrants sent to Salvadoran mega-prison IronLionZion Apr 15 #54

What a photojournalist saw as Venezuelan migrants arrived in El Salvador (video, 60 minutes plus) lostnfound Apr 16 #100

Wow! No wonder Trump hates CBS and 60 Minutes. JohnnyRingo Apr 16 #103

They won't because they're afraid of him. Ping Tung Apr 15 #57

I had expected Garcia to be shanked in the shower or otherwise kill his 1st week in prison. elocs Apr 15 #60

CECOT - A view from a citizen journalist Try Harder Apr 15 #61

Thanks for that post. I will check some of those people out. Maru Kitteh Apr 15 #65

Either that, or he is already dead... Martin68 Apr 15 #64

I agree, they don't want him talking about his experience. patphil Apr 15 #66

Depends on if he is dead or alive. spanone Apr 15 #70

Waiting for the injuries to heal... liberalla Apr 15 #73

Another possibility is that they can't send him back because he's dead. 🙁 Dave Bowman Apr 15 #79

Do the other prisoners know he is such a big target? IcyPeas Apr 15 #80

ITS SIMPLE YoshidaYui Apr 15 #81

They would have to admit that they F-ed up! GrayJedi Apr 15 #82

Just like Trump's bff, Jeff. 3Hotdogs Apr 15 #84

He's no longer among the living RVN VET71 Apr 15 #95

That has been my frightening thought all along, they can't bring him back because he will talk Rhiannon12866 Apr 16 #97

Great minds think alike!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 16 #102

Yes, either that or . . . markpkessinger Apr 16 #104

Wouldn't surprise me to learn he has fallen out of a 7th floor window. CincyDem Apr 16 #105

Garcia wil sing like a bird azureblue Apr 16 #106

He will be Jeffrey Epsteined. sellitman Apr 16 #109