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angrychair

(10,610 posts) Mon Apr 7, 2025, 05:04 PM Apr 7

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The Republic Has Fallen [View all]

With the SCOTUS given the green light to send people to foreign torture prisons, with or without due process, the United States of America has officially collapsed and is now in a new era of dictatorship.
There are no laws. We now only live to serve the will of the Mango Mussolini.

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The Republic Has Fallen [View all] angrychair Apr 7 OP

The Trump Gestapo can come after any of us now. Irish_Dem Apr 7 #1

The "supreme" court HAS been B.See Apr 7 #46

Actually, Putin paid Mitch McConnell to stack the court. Meadowoak Apr 8 #76

Yes it has been obvious for some time. Corruption, greed, evil in black robes. Irish_Dem Apr 8 #77

Trump has failed everything else. kundalinisnake Apr 7 #2

Actually that's a good point Seinan Sensei Apr 7 #19

Like Jan 6, the failed coup thought crime Apr 7 #35

Welcome to DU. Mussolini got trains to run on time, but tRump has trouble keeping planes in the air. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #53

Mussolini also got his head on a pike. returnee Apr 8 #102

Hopefully... Wuddles440 Apr 8 #81

Passing the CR was a big step gab13by13 Apr 7 #3

Giving into Trump and the Republicans on ANYTHING hadEnuf Apr 8 #97

They didn't give a green light. Ms. Toad Apr 7 #4

Thank you Ms. Toad, Raven Apr 7 #6

What is there to discuss?!? angrychair Apr 7 #7

Trump advocated for a stay of the order. Garcia's lawyers are entitled to a chance to argue it should remain in place. Ms. Toad Apr 7 #13

I would counter angrychair Apr 7 #26

"Infinite loophole" TommyT139 Apr 8 #72

"...but this Nation's system of laws... returnee Apr 8 #104

Agreed TommyT139 Apr 8 #105

This mess is what impeachment was for in the Constitution mdbl Apr 8 #79

Lynchings in the south were quite the family entertainment back in our recent warm and fuzzy past wolfie001 Apr 7 #27

And the lynchings weren't just in the South. raccoon Apr 8 #74

Yes, of course wolfie001 Apr 8 #80

If past performance is an indication there's a very good idea of SCOTUS majority intent. live love laugh Apr 7 #31

All or nothing doomer thinking is a thing to discuss. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #54

Say what you like angrychair Apr 8 #57

Your false premise is not an argument for turning down the lights. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #62

Phew! Mme. Defarge Apr 7 #11

Good point. Garcia's lawyer has already filed his brief. bronxiteforever Apr 7 #12

Absolutely. Ms. Toad Apr 7 #16

Thanks for your synopsis of the situation as it stands now. We need level-headed, non-emotional Maru Kitteh Apr 7 #22

Weissman on MSNBC's Deadline White House, stated that Garcia's attorney has already submitted his response. n/t aggiesal Apr 7 #24

tell that to the guy sleeping on a metal slab tonight in a tropical gulag - its just standard procedure? Blues Heron Apr 7 #29

So I take it you believe whoever hits the courthouse doors first wins. Ms. Toad Apr 7 #44

Negatory Mysterian Apr 7 #34

That's a different case. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 7 #43

Yeah, I know. Mysterian Apr 8 #94

There was more than just the Garcia case today. nt moniss Apr 8 #70

Isn't the due process supposed to come BEFORE the person is kidnapped and shipped to a Salvadorean torture prison? Scrivener7 Apr 8 #87

Thank you. Most of us are not lawyers and the terminology is confusing. h2ebits Apr 8 #99

Again? Bonx Apr 7 #5

You'd be a millionaire AdamThePhantump Apr 7 #9

It's also subjective, though. Oneironaut Apr 7 #15

If we ever get out of this, we need to have a serious discussion about executive power. Initech Apr 7 #8

We also need so have a serious discussion about SCOTUS. HeartsCanHope Apr 7 #10

We can deport the conservatives to El Salvador RainCaster Apr 8 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Apr 7 #14

In my opinion, this is truly the end of our democracy. AllyCat Apr 7 #17

The whole point of the ruling is that they DO get their day in court, before a Judge. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #56

That sums it up. Kid Berwyn Apr 7 #18

GW Bush, extraordinary rendition, remember that? CaptainTruth Apr 7 #20

The current "situation" had origins. You are correct. "Unitary Executive" and "we make our own reality." Evolve Dammit Apr 7 #30

PNAC started by Bill Kristol, now of the Bulwark thought crime Apr 7 #47

Bulwark good, Kristol is one of the "less bad guys". But if we are not all-or-nothing suckers we'll take help Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #58

Ew, didn't know Bill Kristol started that. raccoon Apr 8 #75

They could get him back if they want to. louis-t Apr 7 #21

Some have hypothesized... littlemissmartypants Apr 8 #100

So does this mean Roberts court slow walks Garcia's case? uponit7771 Apr 7 #23

What's to stop them? Everyone can fall back on "It was a mistake" and "I don't wanna" now. Scrivener7 Apr 8 #82

I recall a social media post BaronChocula Apr 7 #25

No, it is not. marble falls Apr 7 #28

I don't know why doomers post on DU. To sap our energy? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #52

They need to read some Eldridge Cleaver: lead, follow, or get out of the way. marble falls Apr 8 #69

At the same time the "blue sky" posters moniss Apr 8 #71

Not doom OR blue sky dwayneb Apr 8 #89

I disagree about despair. It often is the catalyst for action. nt moniss Apr 8 #109

When I'm depressed, feeling hopeless, convinced that nothing will turn out alright, elocs Apr 7 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author rainin Apr 7 #33

Try Donkey videos thought crime Apr 7 #36

Naaa, I use YouTube shorts to help relieve the hopelessness & take my mind of all the crap elocs Apr 7 #37

I've just taken up that habit Dave says Apr 7 #48

Good for you! They're short and varied videos that I just lose myself in them while watching. elocs Apr 8 #73

Deadline: Legal Blog-SCOTUS splits 5-4 to grant Trump emergency relief in Alien Enemies Act deportation litigation LetMyPeopleVote Apr 7 #38

The part that gets brushed over angrychair Apr 7 #45

Thank you for actual facts. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #59

I'm old enough to remember how it ended for the original Mussolini. surfered Apr 7 #39

Me too, not alive then but know the history Meowmee Apr 7 #41

Same here. surfered Apr 7 #42

I plan to be in the streets until they chop down the Tree of Liberty & it falls on me Hekate Apr 7 #40

When you're feeling down and depressed, nothing cheers you up more than coming to DU Wanderlust988 Apr 8 #49

Maybe, just maybe angrychair Apr 8 #50

Maybe, just maybe, the doomers mis-state facts Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #60

It was the opposite angrychair Apr 8 #63

angrychair in OP: There are no laws. SCotUS: You must bring the person in front of a judge for their rights. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #64

If anything this took away rights angrychair Apr 8 #67

All trials begin with hearings. Not all court proceedings require trials Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #68

Doomers love their all or nothing fallacious thinking. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #51

Sorry, not giving up. Patton French Apr 8 #78

It's not just doomers dwayneb Apr 8 #91

"Seek out the facts. Make a plan of action." Excellent advice, life-giving. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #92

134 Recs. Really? Okay, then. Carry on. n/t flvegan Apr 8 #55

134 doomers? As if the air weren't smoky enough and the lighting dim enough we have to be informed Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #61

KEY TAKEAWAY: Supreme Court is UNANIMOUS in requiring due process: LetMyPeopleVote Apr 8 #65

Thank you for turning the lights back on. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 8 #66

Sotomayor: Scrivener7 Apr 8 #83

Sigh. Elessar Zappa Apr 8 #84

Never will I EVER live to serve the will of tRump! AKwannabe Apr 8 #85

Same Unconstitutional approach as the Immunity case. Kid Berwyn Apr 8 #86

More like a down hill spiral, but it's only been a couple of months. Plenty of time for Autumn Apr 8 #90

their rotten ideology - Christian Nationalism- overrides our Constitution. - SleeplessinSoCal Apr 8 #93

It's not over yet. Don't give up so easily. Martin68 Apr 8 #95

The republic fell on 12/12/00 GoreWon2000 Apr 8 #96

I'll remain standing as I can, and will refuse surrender. Torchlight Apr 8 #98

Hoping Americans awake Demovictory9 Apr 8 #101

as bad as this is, and it is bad, i'm not sure that the title of this piece is correct or helpful. I don't believe it is somaticexperiencing Apr 8 #103

maybe you do. Nimble_Idea Apr 8 #106

when is he expecting us to SALUTE THE DEAR LEADER? YoshidaYui Apr 8 #107

A King only worries about pitchforks... S/V Loner Apr 8 #108