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In reply to the discussion: Krugman: Rumors of a Deal (WTF?) - updated [View all]BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)99. Whose fact? The anonymous source's? Who is this person? A Republican mole?
Come on Manny. You're much too intelligent to be that gullible.
Yes, President Obama has stated, quite clearly, right after the elections, along with top Democrats, that there will be NO benefit cuts to social security according to Bernie Sanders on November 27, 2012, and the president has already strengthened Medicare and Medicaid via ObamaCares.
At any rate, the rumored "offer" has already been rejected by Boner through his spokesperson. Not enough "spending" cuts.
UPDATE: Boehner's spokesman Michael Steel emailed this response:
Any movement away from the unrealistic offers the President has made previously is a step in the right direction, but a proposal that includes $1.3 trillion in revenue for only $930 billion in spending cuts cannot be considered balanced. We hope to continue discussions with the President so we can reach an agreement that is truly balanced and begins to solve our spending problem.
Any movement away from the unrealistic offers the President has made previously is a step in the right direction, but a proposal that includes $1.3 trillion in revenue for only $930 billion in spending cuts cannot be considered balanced. We hope to continue discussions with the President so we can reach an agreement that is truly balanced and begins to solve our spending problem.
I.O.W., as many have been posting here, they're still in negotiations, but I believe we're watching a WH and House Kabuki dance. That's all this is - to show the markets they're "seriously" working on trying to avoid the fiscal cliff (which President Obama is not all too afraid of) until the new Congress is sworn in in January, and so Boehner can keep his speakership.
Besides, even rightwing sites doubt the president would cut "entitlements" as they call them, so why are we taking this seriously considering the facts that the president has actually strengthened both Medicare and Medicaid and has taken Social Security off the table?
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a majority of both democratic & republican voters support raising taxes on the rich. if this is
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#55
Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit, assuming even the deficit is important enough
byeya
Dec 2012
#2
+1. if he goes for cuts, that's about it for me and the democratic party, i.e. the republican-lite
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#70
It was said by many on this board that entitlement cuts would be made by the lame duck
plethoro
Dec 2012
#36
If this is true, there are several on DU that should seriously consider self exile.
A Simple Game
Dec 2012
#51
And it's been made abundantly clear in that post that this is JUST A RUMOR.
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#60
you think they can make $400 billion in cuts to medicare & it won't affect recipients? i gotta
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#84
Yes, I do. You're forgetting that we now have the PPACA and a public option on its
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#96
I think obama is much more presidential than bush was and michelle has been one of the best
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#105
if the white house didn't want the terms to be public, i assume they wouldn't have released them.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#107
it'll eventually be a ticket to the cemetery, because the cuts don't end after 10 years.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#85
Oh good, so despite two years straight of zero SS COLA, the CPI they used is too lavish?
DJ13
Dec 2012
#6
Actually, the official CPI used for older Americans shows *higher* inflation than what's used now
MannyGoldstein
Dec 2012
#12
What do Robert Reich & Senator Sanders say? Sanders has spoken strongly against CPI, right? Is this
patrice
Dec 2012
#23
you can say so, but right now it stands are $100B from military, $130B from SS, $400B from medical.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#86
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-boehner-meet-as-debt-talks-intensify/2012/12/17/6b43c24
wilsonbooks
Dec 2012
#41
Manny, if it gets bad they will do something in a few years ASSUMING the economy is doing well.
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#73
And he also said chained CPI is a small price to pay for rest of deal, like no Medicare age increase
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#74
What stimulus money do you even begin to think a new mass transit system there is?
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#82
In the end it's up to us to put pressure on congress to say no if this is true.
loyalkydem
Dec 2012
#49
I think we should cut Congress. That would be a HUGE savings, in graft alone.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#78
Much like the deficit reduction act of 2005...the poor and middle class will have less
adirondacker
Dec 2012
#69
seems like we're doing a hell of a lot of sacrificing while the bankster class's profits just keep
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#77
No problem. Obama will veto any bill that cuts SS, Medicare, or other social programs.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#90