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calimary

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10. No, Bake, actually I don't know that. From every conversation I've had with
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 05:55 PM
Dec 2012

gun apologists - this is inevitably where they go. Absolute insistence that their access to firearms is sacrosanct - granted by the 2nd Amendment and shalt not be impinged upon, in any way. No compromise, but a lot of "...from my cold dead hands" stuff. Slippery slope, and all that. It's no straw man at all. It's the default position they always go to, at least from my own personal experience. They'll support regulating churches, and among the males, regulating their own penises, before they'll even consider accepting any such thing for guns. As a matter of fact, they tend to go WAY overboard and start down the road of "if there'd been MORE guns, we wouldn't have had this carnage 'cause the bad-gun-guy would have been stopped by all the good-gun-guys." Which most realistic people would see is just completely nonsensical.

I don't think many people HERE would argue for unrestricted access to guns. You're quite correct about that. But beyond DU, it's out there. Perhaps I've just found myself in arguments with people you're fortunate not to have to deal with or stumble over too much, Bake. And more power to you! But I've found that I might as well be talking to a bunch of M.C. Hammers - all singing "You Can't Touch This."

But I intend to fight for this from EVERY and ANY point of departure I can think of. I'm going at this from every way I can think of.

Blessings to you, my friend!

The best thing is that we're all talking about it actively again, not just here but all across the country. This issue has come back to life after a long period of dormancy because nobody thought there was any point in bringing it up because restricting access to guns was always a nonstarter. Not anymore!!! This issue is back on ACTIVE, HIGH-PRIORITY mode.

Kicking! calimary Dec 2012 #1
Kicking again. calimary Dec 2012 #2
Another thread here has some great ideas in it! calimary Dec 2012 #3
Kick now, will kick again later Savannahmann Dec 2012 #4
We have to go BIG with this issue. yellerpup Dec 2012 #5
I also wonder about some sort of imbedded electronic tracker. calimary Dec 2012 #11
That seems reasonable to me. yellerpup Dec 2012 #12
I recall several years ago... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #20
I don't know if stuff like this is real or you saw it in a movie, but it's still a most interesting calimary Dec 2012 #21
K & R. Also... Chorophyll Dec 2012 #6
You said, "unfettered, unrestricted, free-and-easy access to your precious guns " Bake Dec 2012 #7
No, Bake, actually I don't know that. From every conversation I've had with calimary Dec 2012 #10
Oh, yes, I know there are people out there who argue for NO restrictions. Bake Dec 2012 #13
Oh yeah! calimary Dec 2012 #15
To echo Daniel Day-Lewis in Lincoln: NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW! ellisonz Dec 2012 #8
Here's a great idea from DUer Moostache: calimary Dec 2012 #9
K&R Canuckistanian Dec 2012 #14
Adding DUer Hugabear's ideas here, too. They're GOOD. calimary Dec 2012 #16
Another set of suggestions - from DUer Justin_Beach: calimary Dec 2012 #17
We must stop acting on symptoms and deal with the root cause ~ duwizrd Dec 2012 #18
Welcome to DU, duwizrd! calimary Dec 2012 #19
Another idea to throw in, too: Full disclosure, linkage, and accountability. calimary Dec 2012 #22
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