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In reply to the discussion: I am 100% certain Nancy Lanza considered herself a RESPONSIBLE gun owner. [View all]HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)110. We don't know if son had previous indication of violence,
or how, and if, she had the guns secured, or how the son accessed them. It is almost preposterous to suggest she knew her son was violent and left unsecured guns around the house for him to use. The likely case is she had some degree of security based upon her knowledge of her son, as a mother. Perhaps she had further plans...she could have planned to remove the guns that day. We don't know.
What we do know:
She obviously didn't foresee her son killing her and shooting up an elementary school.
She obviously didn't foresee that whatever gun security she had was vulnerable at some point.
We know this from hindsight she doesn't have.
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I am 100% certain Nancy Lanza considered herself a RESPONSIBLE gun owner. [View all]
RomneyLies
Dec 2012
OP
One media source (The Telegraph?) reported that he tried to buy guns a day or so earlier.
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#129
And yet she left her toys unsecured, all the while knowing how dangerous her son was.
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#4
IF the guns were secured and he destroyed the safe to get to them, then I retract what I said.
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#41
There are reports that she told friends that she was afraid of him. She should have
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#58
Great point. I've never met a gun owner who didn't say he was responsible
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#5
I think the fact that so many of the victims were children has really hit home with people.
Chemisse
Dec 2012
#131
Crack cocaine doesn't kill everyone in the U.S., so it should be readily available for everyone
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#72
There's a death-and-gun fetish in this country that I found in no other country I lived in
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#99
Because people don't get shot by game videos. They get shot by guns, using bullets. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#124
There are more guns than adults here. In the U.K. guns are very strictly controlled
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#104
this is the sort of response you get from the 'can we finally have a discussion about guns'
ProdigalJunkMail
Dec 2012
#90
Are you making an argument that because *everyone* doesn't get shot, that it's okay
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#74
Please stop it. You're talking to someone who lived in Europe, and felt considerably safer because
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#95
This is what I responded to someone who has the same opinion as you....
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#105
I said I felt safer because I do. I don't want to live in a war zone where gun deaths are rampant.
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#123
I'm not carrying a gun either, and I resent being forced to live in a war zone by gun-lovers nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#126
Wrong as usual. It has to do with the risk of being shot in the U.S. versus
Sarah Ibarruri
Dec 2012
#138
How many times have you ever heard anyone say that they weren't responable about anything?
Carnage251
Dec 2012
#34
My brother was 12 when he figured out how to crack my parent's safe (contained jewelry)
Dems to Win
Dec 2012
#47
Do we now know she was sleeping...like shot in her bed? And that the weapons were not
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#15
Many on this board are #1, maybe #2 and until someone proves to me that her guns
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#83
Yea, there's a whole lot of rush to judgement and knee-jerk responses here on DU.
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#86
Beats me. Because they should. And we need to work to make that the new way of doing things.
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#43
I find your attitude about gun owner safety obligations to be quite disturbing.
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#44
Yep. They're like all those 'responsible' pit bull owners who are shocked when their little
valerief
Dec 2012
#30
I'm pretty sure most of the conjecture about her is not all that productive
Major Nikon
Dec 2012
#51
It is scary that so many people just believe what the media puts out there...
mizz pibb.
Dec 2012
#118
Regardless of what media reports, there's a lot of DUers flat out making shit up.
HooptieWagon
Dec 2012
#136